moneypit1
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I have started quite a few yougsters but they have all been rising 4 or 4. Just wondered who had started theirs at 3 and the reasons for it?
Ive given up sharing my views on starting horses too early, as I always get jumped on - but there are some thought provoking words here. https://www.facebook.com/PeterDeCosemoEquestrian?fref=ts
Ive given up sharing my views on starting horses too early, as I always get jumped on - but there are some thought provoking words here. https://www.facebook.com/PeterDeCosemoEquestrian?fref=ts
*jumps on Auslander*
Only kidding... no I agreed previously with your views on it. However, I don't agree with your chap about starting horses before 4 for money... not all horses are for money... I certainly am not looking to gain anything other than a well educated riding horse for myself.
3yo is not too early to be introduced to life being a beast of burden. We have to remember these are captive animals and unless you have a hundred acres of land in which the horse can exercise itself with a herd, then, exercise (mentally & physically) is very important at this age.
I don't agree with "working" horses before 4 and in the same breath I don't agree with horses being started at 4 but having everything thrown at them all at once.
A sympathetic and caring balance has to be struck between getting a horse accustomed to our wants, it's physiological development and it's mental wellbeing so in this case I am a fan of starting horses over a couple of years rather than doing everything at 4.
Bottom line: if you are one of those who equates starting with riding, then I guess you better not start your horse until hes four. That would be the old, traditional, worldwide view: introduce the horse to equipment (all kinds of equipment and situations) when hes two, crawl on and off of him at three, saddle him to begin riding him and teaching him to guide at four, start teaching him maneuvers or the basics of whatever job hes going to do cavalletti or stops or something beyond trailing cattle at five, and hes on the payroll at six. The old Spanish way of bitting reflected this also, because the horses teeth arent mature (the tushes havent come in, nor all of the permanent cheek teeth either) until hes six.= This is what Id do if it were my own horse. Im at liberty to do that because Im not on anybody elses schedule except my horses own schedule. Im not a participant in futurities or planning to be. Are you? If you are, well, thats your business. But most horse owners arent futurity competitors. Please ask yourself: is there any reason that you have to be riding that particular horse before hes four?
When I say start a horse I do not equate that with riding him. To start a young horse well is one of the finest tests (and proofs) of superior horsemanship. Anyone who does not know how to start a horse cannot know how to finish one. You, the owner, therefore have the following as a minimum list of enjoyable things to accomplish together with your young horse before hes four years old, when you do start him under saddle:
Comfortable being touched all over. Comfortable: not put-upon nor merely tolerating, but really looking forward to it.
This includes interior of mouth, muzzle, jowls, ears, sheath/udder, tail, front and hind feet. Pick em up and they should be floppy.
Knows how to lead up. No fear; no attempt to flee; no drag in the feet; knows that its his job to keep slack in the line all the time.
Manners enough to lead at your shoulder, stop or go when he sees your body get ready to stop or go; if he spooks, does not jump toward or onto you, will not enter your space unless hes specifically invited to do so.
Leads through gate or into stall without charging.
Knows how to tie, may move to the side when spooked but keeps slack in the line all the time.
Knows how to be ponied.
Carries smooth nonleverage bit in mouth. Lowers head and opens mouth when asked to take the bit; when unbridled, lowers head and spits the bit out himself.
Will work with a drag (tarp, sack half filled with sand, light tire, or sledge and harness).
Mounts drum or sturdy stand with front feet.
Free longes comes when called and responds calmly to being driven forward; relaxed and eager.
When driven, leaves without any sign of fleeing; when stopped, plants hind feet and coils loins; does not depend on back-drag from your hand to stop him.
Familiar with saddle, saddle blanket, and being girthed and accepts it quietly.
Backs easily, quietly and straight in hand, one step at a time.
Loads quietly in horse trailer, unloads by stepping backwards from inside horse trailer without rearing or rushing.
Various people might like to add to this list. Please feel free, just so long as what youre asking your young horse isnt more than he can physically do. Getting the horse 100% OK mentally and emotionally those are the big areas in successful early training; most of the physical and athletic skills can come later, when it is fitting.
I started all mine at three .
If they are late season foals they are started late in the year so they where always fully three years old when I started.
They will be lead and long riened in walk learning basic manners and the voice commands .
Their " work " session where short I was always taught no session should be longer that it takes to tack up although clearly that's a " saying" rather than a concrete rule the intention is that session must be very short but at times I would do ten mins twice daily.
they would do trot on the lunge be backed lead round ridden lunged ridden and be introduced to being ridden away and do a few very short walking hacks.
They would some very low impact pole work towards the end .
And perhaps a loose jump once perhaps twice just to see.
I often would leave cantering till four but if the moment came I would let it happen.
Work session would be 30mins perhaps slightly longer for the few walking hacks at the end .
The horses where then turned away.
I don't believe it harms if senestively done in a mindful way however I think the hot house training of some young sport horses is detrimental and leading to a huge amount of wastage.