Who is in the wrong? Or both partly to blame?

[ownedbyaconnie]

Mabel is at the back end of her season. She’s going out for a walk on the lead at quiet times of the day round our block.

A few doors down is an entire dog who escapes multiple times a week. I use the term escape loosely, yesterday he was scrabbling at our front door and when I took him back to his house the front door was wide open and owners no where to be seen.

Twice this week he has “escaped” and tried to mount Mabel whilst she is on the lead on a walk. Today the dog very nearly succeeded except DH pushed him off and picked Mabel up.

So do I send them a message/mention next time I bump into them? This isn’t our fault is it? Mabel can’t go 3 weeks without a walk and she’s on the lead so can’t go running off.

I appreciate we both have entire dogs but Mabel has never escaped our house and we keep her on a lead when in season. She has pants but we take them off for the walk so she can go to the toilet. What else can I do?!

 

[bonny]

You are both in the wrong or no one is in the wrong…..both dogs are entire and if you take yours out when she’s in season you can’t really expect no other dogs to be interested.

 

[ycbm]

You are both in the wrong or no one is in the wrong…..both dogs are entire and if you take yours out when she’s in season you can’t really expect no other dogs to be interested.

Surely she should be able to expect that no other dog is wandering the streets without an owner in sight?!

And that the law requiring to be on a lead on the roadside should be being respected?
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[scats]

Your dog is on a lead and under control and theirs is not. You are not in the wrong, they are.

 

[bonny]

Surely she should be able to expect that no other dog is wandering the streets without an owner in sight?!

And that the law requiring to be on a lead on the roadside should be being respected?
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Could just be a dog not on a lead though, plenty of them about and if one mates with your dog what the law says about leads will be a bit irrelevant.

 

[Barton Bounty]

You are not in the wrong because even though your dog is in season you are choosing to go out and walk at quieter times of the day! The escapee dog and owner is in the wrong

 

[Errin Paddywack]

If the dog is wandering, their door is open and no-one answering the door I would be tempted to hand the dog to the dog warden.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I mean, you can expect that other dogs might be interested, but you should be able to walk your dog when they're in heat.

I did it in Germany many a time with exactly zero issues, mostly because there are less f*ckwits there when it comes to dogs.

Mabel was on a leash, they tried to walk at a less busy time, and that's the best they could do minus just not walking their dog, which isn't right or fair either.

So Mabel was under control, essentially, but the other dog was not. The fault is on the dogs owner (the owner of the loose dog). Whenever you choose to keep an intact animal, your level of responsibility increases (this should go for humans too but ). OBaC was being responsible. The other dog shouldn't just continously escape. Male dogs can smell a female in heat from quite a distance, but I know quite a few intact dogs who still manage go stay contained and/or controlled! So the female shouldn't have to hide away while in heat!

I've always thought it interesting that people (mainly in the UK) are so concerned with walking their in heat dog that they have to hide them away from society until they've finished their cycle...all because males can't be controlled and it might drive them crazy. I just feel like there's a lot about society we can dissect from that (let's not tho!).

I think you were doing your best OBaC. I wouldn't say that you were at fault at all.

Edit: tried to clarify my points because I think my post was being read incorrectly! TL;DR you can walk your dog whenever you want, in heat or not, you shouldn't have to deal with other dogs running up and mounting yours!

 

[nagblagger]

You are both in the wrong or no one is in the wrong…..both dogs are entire and if you take yours out when she’s in season you can’t really expect no other dogs to be interested.

No OH is not in the wrong, i would expect the other dog should be on a lead or under control of an owner - who is not around!

 

[Tiddlypom]

Whilst the loose dog should not be loose, walking an in season bitch in a public area is asking for unwanted attention, and you've got it.

 

[AmyMay]

Could just be a dog not on a lead though, plenty of them about and if one mates with your dog what the law says about leads will be a bit irrelevant.

The dog is being allowed to roam/escape his house. I fail to see how you don’t understand the original post. This has nothing to do with an ‘off lead’ dog

OP, a knock on their door is in order. It’s completely irrelevant that your dog is in season (although a very early am walk and a late pm walk would be safer, granted). Just tell them their dog has been at your house and next time you’ll phone the Dog Warden to collect him.

 

[Jenko109]

I am assuming that you are walking on the streets, in which case you would not expect to ever come across an off lead dog in the first place.

Quite frankly, under those circumstances, you should be able to walk an in season bitch whenever the heck you want.

 

[splashgirl45]

I know you are not at fault but I would take her in the car to a quiet area as you know this entire dog is loose where you currently walk and it would allow you to be more relaxed

 

[Clodagh]

I’m astounded that anyone would feel an on heat bitch should not be walked!

 

[Sandstone1]

I would take a in season bitch in the car to walk in a quiet area away from home. That way local dogs wont get her sent so easily. Having said that though all dog should be on a lead and under control.

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

Yes just walking our very quiet cul de sac.

I do get that they’re both entire but mine is on a lead and under control. The other is wandering the streets with the owner none the wiser. Even if you took my in heat dog out of the equation the other owner is still doing something wrong?

This hopefully won’t happen again as she is getting spayed 3 months from now.

Whilst the loose dog should not be loose, walking an in season bitch in a public area is asking for unwanted attention, and you've got it.

So I don’t walk my dog for 3 weeks?

 

[AmyMay]

Yes just walking our very quiet cul de sac.

I do get that they’re both entire but mine is on a lead and under control. The other is wandering the streets with the owner none the wiser. Even if you took my in heat dog out of the equation the other owner is still doing something wrong?

This hopefully won’t happen again as she is getting spayed 3 months from now.

So I don’t walk my dog for 3 weeks?

To be fair, that’s not what Tiddlypom said.

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

To be fair, that’s not what Tiddlypom said.

Fair enough I’ve reread it and seen the bit about “public”. There is a dog park near us (assuming this is what TP is referring to) but it is only open during work hours.

This is the first time we’ve had an issue so not really thought of alternatives before. And hopefully won’t need to as I say, we’re going to get her spayed.

 

[Btomkins]

I’d be calling the council dog warden to come and pick up the stray dog - you have no idea where it’s come from and are worried about it’s safety!

They will have to pay a hefty fine to collect the dog and this usually discourages letting them roam any more…

 

[Aperchristmas]

I would absolutely have a chat with the owners about the dog's wandering. We've been in a similar situation before so I sympathise.

 

[ycbm]

I'm a bit astonished at the people who seem to think that a dog on the lead, as it legally has to be on a public road, would be allowed by its owner to mount an in season bitch.

I know little about modern dog owning but how on earth is this conceivably ObaC's fault?
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[Rokele55]

Living in a village I always knew when my bitch was coming in season as the local lothario terrier would be stood on the doorstep when I opened the door. He would get a very large flea in his ear and sent home, he didn't go but kept his distance after some persuasion. Several of his offspring about as he did the rounds of all the local farms to try his luck. I suggest a big pointy stick with which to dissuade his attentions.

 

[NinjaPony]

I get so sick of people refusing to keep their dog under control and blaming everyone else for their failure. You should be able to walk a dog on a lead around the streets and be left alone, in heat or not in heat. No dog should be roaming around the street loose, going after people’s dogs. It’s unacceptable. So no, it’s not your fault.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Edit: meh, nevermind.

 

[ArklePig]

This is in no way your fault! It sounds like this is an area you would expect dogs to be on a lead anyway let alone having a day out for themselves with no owner in sight. Shocked anyone thinks you're to blame tbh.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I would shut the stray dog in somewhere away from your bitch and ring the dog warden. Let the owner pay to get it back and get a warning from the DW

 

[Goldenstar]

I would be up early to walk , these types of owners are not usually early risers .
I never take my bitches off the property when they are in season but in a town you have to .

 

[bonny]

I would shut the stray dog in somewhere away from your bitch and ring the dog warden. Let the owner pay to get it back and get a warning from the DW

If the dog warden came out, scanned the dog and discovered it lived a few doors away do you not think they would ask why you’ve locked up your neighbours dog? Why does everything have to be so complicated, why not knock on their door, explain your dog is still on heat but will be spayed soon and ask if they can stop the dog getting out for a week or so ?

 

[ycbm]

If the dog warden came out, scanned the dog and discovered it lived a few doors away do you not think they would ask why you’ve locked up your neighbours dog? Why does everything have to be so complicated, why not knock on their door, explain your dog is still on heat but will be spayed soon and ask if they can stop the dog getting out for a week or so ?

So it's OK in your view for the dog to be left out to roam public streets alone the rest of the time?

I haven't heard anyone express that view since I was ten years old. It was common in the sixties, it's now illegal.
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[bonny]

So it's OK in your view for the dog to be left out to roam public streets alone the rest of the time?

I haven't heard anyone express that view since I was ten years old. It was common in the sixties, it's now illegal.
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According to the OP he’s going a few doors away to visit a bitch in heat. He shouldn’t but I couldn’t get that riled up about it that I’d contact the dog warden and hope the dog got taken away.