why do some people expect everything for nothing?? *rant

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So my mare is up for sale and this time actually sell her (put the add up, changed my mind and took it down again 3times). My mare has exceptional breeding and is surely worth something for that alone? But she does have issues in that she falls apart when she leaves the comfort of our yard so is definatly a project! Anyway in previous attempts to sell ive turned down offers of 2k+ from a couple of people i just didnt have the right feeling about (im stupid!) but now i really do have to sell, so shes up for offers loan or sale and

1) ive been offered 200 by one woman who sounded great and declined my ask of 600 so i accepted the 200 as perfect home is paramount but then she didnt turn up to view and txt me hours later saying she would just pick her up as she dosnt have time to view despite only being 15mins away! So i thought 'no' you cant have her if you cant find the time to view, then you cant find time to work with her!

2) girl enquires, reminds me alot of myself and ckearly loves animals. I said 600 she said could she loan or have iinstallments, yes i said and then she asked what would be the least iide take to forever home so i said 300 and told her about my mares breeding which she confirmed with sylvia loch as she wasnt familiar with lines. So She then decided she definatly wants to buy ,not loan and would i take any less than 300 since i wasnt including saddle in the price!! Oh and she could only collect xmas day or boxing day!

3) lady contacts me saying shes a breeder at a well known stud (that doesnt have a website?)n ad would i swap for some god awful ponies i wouldnt pay a fiver for! (clearly a back yard breeder/dealer)

Rant over. Thankyou for letting me bore you! :)
 
Be careful if you are to sell her for £200 as she could easily go for meat.
I'm sure an experienced rider would pay more for a horse like that if she has good breeding , my friend just bought a TB that needs a lot of work for £800 !
I'm afraid though if you really want to sell her desperately you will have to bite the bullet a bit and let her go to someone that makes you an offer or readvertise her again for more money !
 
I wouldn't by something that has no confidence for over 2k when you can get an all that horse for that price. What are you expecting to sell for. . Many want what they paid back. Many should have never paid that price in the first place. It's all relative.
 
Kaylum said:
I wouldn't by something that has no confidence for over 2k when you can get an all that horse for that price. What are you expecting to sell for. . Many want what they paid back. Many should have never paid that price in the first place. It's all relative.
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She only wants £600 and a good home for it...
Maybe read the post properly before jumping in with snarky comments?
 
Equestriangirl123 said:
Be careful if you are to sell her for £200 as she could easily go for meat.
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Going for meat is the least of this horse's problems. Far more likely she'll end up with a dodgy dealer and then passed from pillar to post for the rest of her life by people who can't manage her.

OP how old is your horse. I'm afraid in your situation and this market I would consider having her put down unless she's young. There are an awful lot of bad dealers about who will masquerade as private buyers. I had to rescue one of mine once, he had been starved :( I'd never sell a cheap horse with problems again.
 
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lastchancer said:
She only wants £600 and a good home for it...
Maybe read the post properly before jumping in with snarky comments?
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I read it thanks !!!!! Lol as for snarky nope just realistic it's the climate and people have to pay a lower price as its not the cost if buying its the cost of keeping and it's winter. Surely home is more important than price if you care about the animal. Whatever you advertise it as expect below price offers that's the horse world it's a totally different entity from buying anything else.
 
thats the problem, i dont know what shes worth and hence why shes up for offers or loan and i will not let her go unseen but the fact that she comes with everything bar a saddle surely she is worth a bit more than to be given away free, shes a pure bred lusitano. All she needs is more miles on the clock/life experience. Why do these people insist they want to buy her for buttons when ide happily put her on perm loan/LWVTB and how can person 1 say they garauntee a permanent home if they havnt even viewed her! I will not give her away to jst anybody as i will NOT risk her being passed from pillar to post, ive now jst changed my add to loan.
 
If you ask too little and sound too desperate (and reduce the price without anyone actually seeing her) she will more than likely be passed around. And unfortunately dodgy dealers do not ring up and introduce themselves as such. I have known two really dodgy (dangerous) dealers in my time and they have both been utterly charming and likeable , especially when buying and selling (not so at home) I sympathise as I have been in your position, but as others have said, there are a lot of nice cheap horses out there.
 
Ok how I sold my beloved was put the feelers out and asked around I did a yard check (hardly anyone bothers to do that) they tried him twice. He went on trial,he came back. Did the same with someone else and they bought him. It's not easy but giving them a chance to try helps them and the horse it's the only way for me especially.
 
I would love someone to take her on a trial, at least then i know they are genuine, then ide happily ket her go for peanuts, i thought person 2 was genuine wanting to loan till she heard of breeding and got pound signs in her eyes. My poor girl, i will end up keeping her at this rate, shes just wasted with me :(
 
If you are selling because you think she's "wasted" with you and you aren't desperate for money, why not try and find a rider for her instead?
 
She's not wasted with you - she is safe, horses have no idea about their potential/ ability/ future plans.

If the best thing about her is her breeding, and you're using that as a selling point you're selling her cheap to churn out foals year in year out? Is that really what you want for her? Breeding in a querky horse that hasn't done much so far is only really relevant to more breeding.

You'll never know is someone is genuine, even if they seem it when they meet you and try her.

If you have loads of cash get someone in to help you sort her out so she has some value/ use to someone other than as a breeding machine.
If you have hardly any cash seriously consider PTS
If you have a bit of cash and can - why not just keep her as a pet - she'd be perfectly happy with that.
 
R - if she's got a safe and secure home with you and you care for her, she's not worried about being 'wasted'. If you need to sell for financial reasons, that's different.

ETA - i completely agree with PM's post above.
 
Polos Mum said:
She's not wasted with you - she is safe, horses have no idea about their potential/ ability/ future plans.

If the best thing about her is her breeding, and you're using that as a selling point you're selling her cheap to churn out foals year in year out? Is that really what you want for her? Breeding in a querky horse that hasn't done much so far is only really relevant to more breeding.

You'll never know is someone is genuine, even if they seem it when they meet you and try her.

If you have loads of cash get someone in to help you sort her out so she has some value/ use to someone other than as a breeding machine.
If you have hardly any cash seriously consider PTS
If you have a bit of cash and can - why not just keep her as a pet - she'd be perfectly happy with that.
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^^^This, exactly, don't rely on yourself to be a good enough judge of character to send her to the right home, if you care about the horse then PM's options are the only ones you should consider.
 
I would have her put to sleep before i let her fall into the wrong hands but tbh her issue really is not that bad im very upfront about it because she is a project. If i had the time ide do the work but i really dont with a baby plus i hate dressage which essentially is what she was bred for. Good bloodlines are important to alot of people who wish to show etc not just breeders, i know several people who will only buy ponies with the best lines for showing and they have never bred a foal in their lives
 
I think I've seen your horses advert, if she's the one advertised on preloved? She looks lovely by the way? Maybe try advertising her elsewhere too, I don't know if you have already?

Because it's winter it will be more difficult to sell her, is there any chance you could work with her til spring, then sell her when she's gained some more confidence? You'd probably be more likely to find a loan home in spring too if that's what you'd prefer. As long as she's safe, happy and you can afford to keep her she's not wasted with you, I doubt she gives a monkies about reaching higher level competitions or going to shows on a weekly basis.
 
Yes shes on preloved, she is lovely thanks. Money isnt the issue, she lives out, barefoot and is fat on fresh air! Lol i just litterally dont have time anymore (ive also put my anglo up for part loan) and i feel guilty that shes not getting the fuss she deserves because shes such a loving girl with so much too give. Its a shame theres seems to be more disshonest dodgy dealers around than genuine honest homes :(
 
rowan666 said:
Yes shes on preloved, she is lovely thanks. Money isnt the issue, she lives out, barefoot and is fat on fresh air! Lol i just litterally dont have time anymore (ive also put my anglo up for part loan) and i feel guilty that shes not getting the fuss she deserves because shes such a loving girl with so much too give. Its a shame theres seems to be more disshonest dodgy dealers around than genuine honest homes :(
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If money isn't the issue you could go on the horse network forum (google it) if you haven't already and see if you can find someone willing to ride her for free, it will take some weeding out of people who will likely not be able to stay on, but I think I've seen a few posts of people claiming to be experienced who are looking for a ride.

I have a lovely girl who helps with yard jobs and in return for riding my mare, she's a quiet rider and fusses over my girl :) this would keep her ticking over until you either have the time, or are able to sell.


ETA- or you could just let her be a horse for the winter, I'm sure she won't mind :)
 
You cannot guarantee her future with a loan or a sale. A horse I had last year had been loaned. After three days, the dealer who had lied to get hold of him told the owner he was dead and sold an unsound horse for thousands of pounds.

My horse went on sale at 500, to a spectacular yard, with references, yet 16 weeks later he had been starved to within an inch of his life. I bought him back.

There are huge dangers in cheap or free to a good home, and in long term lone away from your immediate area.

I would not want you to have the heartache I did when my horse was starved. Please carry on being ultra cautious, you've done great so far.
 
I agree with other posters that if you can afford to keep her I would put your efforts into finding someone to enjoy her and bring her on then consider selling her in the spring. Are you in a riding club or is there a local one, perhaps give them a call and see if they know anyone who could help?

I did this with a neighbours horse while mine was out of action for a few months and I was really grateful to be offered a horse to ride, so it worked for both of us.

She is far more likely to go to a nice home if she is ready to do a job for someone.

I don't think the market you are aiming her at will necessarily appreciate bloodlines, they are more likely looking to sell her on for profit.

Good luck, hope you find someone to help you.
 
As a lusitano, I'd try sticking her on the Enlightened Equitation forum or their horses for sale facebook page. Have you tried the breed society fb page etc.

Good luck, hope you find a suitable solution.
 
Doublethyme said:
As a lusitano, I'd try sticking her on the Enlightened Equitation forum or their horses for sale facebook page. Have you tried the breed society fb page etc.

Good luck, hope you find a suitable solution.
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^^this, if you PM me her ad I will post it for you. There's also an EE Horses For Sale page on FB, as well as the breed soc sites. Lusitanos aren't just good for dressage, they make great jumpers, hacks, endurancers-they are great RC all rounders.
 
The best thing any seller can do for their horse is to have it up and running and ready to go. That is what will attract people and ultimately what will sell the horse. If the horse isn't up to scratch for it's age group then as an owner you are setting it up to fail. Is there any way OP that you could hire a rider for a couple of months over the winter and then the horse should be ready to go in the spring?
 
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