nickyb
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bummer!
WILTON CANCELLED
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H-J
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sh*t!!
Now what am I going to do about this horse - how blo*dy annoying im pretty sick of this weather now
Sarah_Jane
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It is now getting ridiculous
tigers_eye
Well-Known Member
FFS.
I really can't get my head round this - the ground is firm here.
HJ - I think you should buy it anyway - it's an experienced horse and one intermediate run more or less won't change the horse it is.
I really can't get my head round this - the ground is firm here.
HJ - I think you should buy it anyway - it's an experienced horse and one intermediate run more or less won't change the horse it is.
H-J
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FFS.
I really can't get my head round this - the ground is firm here.
HJ - I think you should buy it anyway - it's an experienced horse and one intermediate run more or less won't change the horse it is.
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Exactly what I have been thinking the ground is verging on hard here again.
Yes I see what your saying I will see what the owner says
FFS.
I really can't get my head round this - the ground is firm here.
HJ - I think you should buy it anyway - it's an experienced horse and one intermediate run more or less won't change the horse it is.
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Exactly what I have been thinking the ground is verging on hard here again.
Yes I see what your saying I will see what the owner says
DollyPentreath
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Ah poo, I wonder if I'll get my money back? I withdrew and they said I'd get it back because someone will take my place off the wait list.. Hope I do!!
Oh well, I have no excuses for whining about missing it now, I do feel very sorry for everyone else though..
Oh well, I have no excuses for whining about missing it now, I do feel very sorry for everyone else though..
RachelB
Well-Known Member
Good luck to everyone trying to find runs in this awful weather!
tigers_eye
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't get your hopes up - they will be trying to save as much money as possible having got to this late stage. I have to say that beacham website is pretty crap, I would have expected more in the way of information and did you see that they said times for sat and sun would only be available after midday tomorrow?!
DollyPentreath
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, I think you're right t_e, I know they have to re-coup their losses, but... but... I want my money back!! Pants.
The Beacham website is pretty useless, I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one..
The Beacham website is pretty useless, I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one..
MissDeMeena
Well-Known Member
Bugger, that was my final prep run for Hartpury
Will go find some BSJA somewhere instead i guess.
Will go find some BSJA somewhere instead i guess.
henryhorn
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Our local ODE has gone this weekend too, it just hasn't stopped raining apart from one beautiful day.
This will be remembered as the wasted year in eventing I reckon, when all we did was prepare and get cancelled..
This will be remembered as the wasted year in eventing I reckon, when all we did was prepare and get cancelled..
Sarah_Jane
Well-Known Member
I think you will find they will have to refund you I know they have me in the past in similiar situation.
DollyPentreath
Well-Known Member
Ooh, sounds promising s_j, thank you.
BBs
Well-Known Member
Crap!
Im not even going to waste my fuel to walk the course at Mattingley this afternoon.
Will just have to get up extra early and walk it tomorrow if it runs. But if they are saying that the probability of them running is slim then I cant see it running tomorrow, can you?
ARGH!!
Oh well, BSJA next weekend, and will enter Burnham Beeches too
Im not even going to waste my fuel to walk the course at Mattingley this afternoon.
Will just have to get up extra early and walk it tomorrow if it runs. But if they are saying that the probability of them running is slim then I cant see it running tomorrow, can you?
ARGH!!
Oh well, BSJA next weekend, and will enter Burnham Beeches too
Bossanova
Well-Known Member
ARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
H-J
Well-Known Member
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Crap!
Im not even going to waste my fuel to walk the course at Mattingley this afternoon.
Will just have to get up extra early and walk it tomorrow if it runs. But if they are saying that the probability of them running is slim then I cant see it running tomorrow, can you?
ARGH!!
Oh well, BSJA next weekend, and will enter Burnham Beeches too
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But it will be a drive in your new car wont it! id go just for that
Hope it does run all weekend for everyone but then that means an early start for you tomorrow BB's!
Crap!
Im not even going to waste my fuel to walk the course at Mattingley this afternoon.
Will just have to get up extra early and walk it tomorrow if it runs. But if they are saying that the probability of them running is slim then I cant see it running tomorrow, can you?
ARGH!!
Oh well, BSJA next weekend, and will enter Burnham Beeches too
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But it will be a drive in your new car wont it! id go just for that
Hope it does run all weekend for everyone but then that means an early start for you tomorrow BB's!
NoCollection
Well-Known Member
Winkleigh has just been rescheduled to 11 August and now they are running Novice as well as Intro and PN. They need more entries - anyone willing to travel west?
Diane_Pepper
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i think i'll enter winkleigh if bold heath gets cancelled - people must think i'm mad - there's such a distance between the 2!!
what's the odds that bold heath AND winkleigh will be cancelled? lol
what's the odds that bold heath AND winkleigh will be cancelled? lol
bbeacham
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I wouldn't get your hopes up - they will be trying to save as much money as possible having got to this late stage.
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There is support from British Eventing in the event of this sort of disaster - part of your entry fee goes, like an insurance premium, towards paying part of the cost of that support. No doubt the BE report and accounts for 2007 next year will show you the financial strain of the weather this season. Thank BE for being prepared. But that still leaves events and Organisers at serious risk, and in a state of considerable dismay - think what it's like to have to pull an event at the last minute after putting your heart into getting so much detail ready for the 1,500 - 2,000 people directly involved (including, especially, yourselves, the Riders).
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I have to say that beacham website is pretty crap,
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I'm sorry to hear you feel that. In what way would you like to see it improved? The philosophy of it is as a fast download of key information in a way that is easy to use, giving you information not just about yourself but also of those around you. And of course to members of the public keen to identify what's when.
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I would have expected more in the way of information
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Before the inspection, or after it? Remember that abandonment is new territory for many people involved, and it takes time to get the consequent arrangements in place and correct, so a timetable is impossible at such an early stage.
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and did you see that they said times for sat and sun would only be available after midday tomorrow?!
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Where was that said? If posted on Wednesday, that was true - there was no point in posting times for an event under threat, and Thursday lunchtime was when the inspection was to occur. Surely Thursday lunchtime is earlier than the due time for making the times known anyway?
I wouldn't get your hopes up - they will be trying to save as much money as possible having got to this late stage.
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There is support from British Eventing in the event of this sort of disaster - part of your entry fee goes, like an insurance premium, towards paying part of the cost of that support. No doubt the BE report and accounts for 2007 next year will show you the financial strain of the weather this season. Thank BE for being prepared. But that still leaves events and Organisers at serious risk, and in a state of considerable dismay - think what it's like to have to pull an event at the last minute after putting your heart into getting so much detail ready for the 1,500 - 2,000 people directly involved (including, especially, yourselves, the Riders).
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I have to say that beacham website is pretty crap,
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I'm sorry to hear you feel that. In what way would you like to see it improved? The philosophy of it is as a fast download of key information in a way that is easy to use, giving you information not just about yourself but also of those around you. And of course to members of the public keen to identify what's when.
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I would have expected more in the way of information
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Before the inspection, or after it? Remember that abandonment is new territory for many people involved, and it takes time to get the consequent arrangements in place and correct, so a timetable is impossible at such an early stage.
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and did you see that they said times for sat and sun would only be available after midday tomorrow?!
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Where was that said? If posted on Wednesday, that was true - there was no point in posting times for an event under threat, and Thursday lunchtime was when the inspection was to occur. Surely Thursday lunchtime is earlier than the due time for making the times known anyway?
bbeacham
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The Beacham website is pretty useless,
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Tell me why you feel that. It aims to provide key links. If an Organiser is running internet entries (using the BE system) then we expect to put a direct link to the BE internet entry form for the trial, alongside the trial's name on the beacham site. See, for instance, the revised reference to Winkleigh, who have decided now to switch on internet entries.
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I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one.
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<smile> Over the years people have made less use than I'd have expected of Word and other wp programs, to prepare proforma entry form details to print out on BE entry forms, rather than having to hand write them each time.
But organisers hope that the BE internet entries system will fill the gap anyway. Not all are immediately ready to use it, though.
The Beacham website is pretty useless,
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Tell me why you feel that. It aims to provide key links. If an Organiser is running internet entries (using the BE system) then we expect to put a direct link to the BE internet entry form for the trial, alongside the trial's name on the beacham site. See, for instance, the revised reference to Winkleigh, who have decided now to switch on internet entries.
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I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one.
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<smile> Over the years people have made less use than I'd have expected of Word and other wp programs, to prepare proforma entry form details to print out on BE entry forms, rather than having to hand write them each time.
But organisers hope that the BE internet entries system will fill the gap anyway. Not all are immediately ready to use it, though.
DollyPentreath
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Gosh, I didn't expect Mr Beacham himself to personally respond to our gripes..
Thank you for being so polite and interested in our concerns!
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Tell me why you feel that. It aims to provide key links. If an Organiser is running internet entries (using the BE system) then we expect to put a direct link to the BE internet entry form for the trial, alongside the trial's name on the beacham site. See, for instance, the revised reference to Winkleigh, who have decided now to switch on internet entries.
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Ok, I personally feel that the Beacham site is inevitably going to be compared to bdwp. I find bdwp very user friendly, I'm no computer tech, so forgive me if I don't explain this particularly well!! Bdwp has a scrolled lists of events, in order and each event can be selected so you can go to that events home page. Then a rider surname can be searched for, sections and days on which sections will be running are clearly visible. No new windows open, so I don't end up having a task bar full of pages that I can't keep track of.. I can also see if my entry has been received and track my entry on bdwp. I can also, importantly, track all of my entries for all events through their search facility.. Perhaps I'm being unfair as I know Beacham offers most of these aspects just IMO in not such a user friendly format, perhaps because some events still do not wish to offer online entries.
I also find the Beacham website is slower to display updates on event status' than bdwp.. It's nice to be kept updated even if it's just notification that a decision will be made at X time on X day. Perhaps I just miss these updates because I can't find them though!!
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I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one.
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<smile> Over the years people have made less use than I'd have expected of Word and other wp programs, to prepare proforma entry form details to print out on BE entry forms, rather than having to hand write them each time.
But organisers hope that the BE internet entries system will fill the gap anyway. Not all are immediately ready to use it, though.
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I certainly do not have the know how or the patience to use word to prepare a proforma entry form.. Especially when Bdwp offers such a simple alternative!
I don't understand why all events don't offer online entries..? But then that's not a gripe I have with the Beacham site..
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Tell me why you feel that. It aims to provide key links. If an Organiser is running internet entries (using the BE system) then we expect to put a direct link to the BE internet entry form for the trial, alongside the trial's name on the beacham site. See, for instance, the revised reference to Winkleigh, who have decided now to switch on internet entries.
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Ok, I personally feel that the Beacham site is inevitably going to be compared to bdwp. I find bdwp very user friendly, I'm no computer tech, so forgive me if I don't explain this particularly well!! Bdwp has a scrolled lists of events, in order and each event can be selected so you can go to that events home page. Then a rider surname can be searched for, sections and days on which sections will be running are clearly visible. No new windows open, so I don't end up having a task bar full of pages that I can't keep track of.. I can also see if my entry has been received and track my entry on bdwp. I can also, importantly, track all of my entries for all events through their search facility.. Perhaps I'm being unfair as I know Beacham offers most of these aspects just IMO in not such a user friendly format, perhaps because some events still do not wish to offer online entries.
I also find the Beacham website is slower to display updates on event status' than bdwp.. It's nice to be kept updated even if it's just notification that a decision will be made at X time on X day. Perhaps I just miss these updates because I can't find them though!!
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I'm actually at the point where if two events are running on the same weekend and the distance isn't too far, I'll opt for the bdwp entry over a paper one.
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<smile> Over the years people have made less use than I'd have expected of Word and other wp programs, to prepare proforma entry form details to print out on BE entry forms, rather than having to hand write them each time.
But organisers hope that the BE internet entries system will fill the gap anyway. Not all are immediately ready to use it, though.
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I certainly do not have the know how or the patience to use word to prepare a proforma entry form.. Especially when Bdwp offers such a simple alternative!
bbeacham
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I didn't expect Mr Beacham himself to personally respond to our gripes..
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I didn't know about this forum until I was pointed to it yesterday because you were a bit fed up with my site!
Incidentally, less of the Mr Beacham - Bruce is fine
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Ok, I personally feel that the Beacham site is inevitably going to be compared to bdwp.
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Fair enough, although not wholly reasonable! Paul Harris's bdwp site is fully integrated with his internet entries system, whereas the beacham site doesn't take internet entries: that's a specialised area which I decided quite a while ago not to venture into, because my day job is quite unrelated to web applications - in fact unrelated to computers at all! Also, if anyone was going to re-invent that wheel it was going to be BE, and it's there that you will (or should) find the cross-referencing tools you (quite rightly) like to use. If the search tool you like isn't there, make a noise: e-mail / contact BE and ask for it. They do listen, but there's always a queue for tasks to be done.
So, on that basis, I try to keep my site simple and quick - after all, we're not long since we only had dial-up connections, at 56k if you were lucky!
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I find bdwp very user friendly,
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Agreed.
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Bdwp has a scrolled lists of events, in order and each event can be selected so you can go to that events home page.
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But, I believe, only of events for which the entries secretary concerned uses Paul's land-based system for managing the entries. Paul has been doing this for two decades plus, and Lesley Hagerty' for a rather shorter period, compared to my mere one and a bit decades! So, many events (and scorers) use Paul's system and bdwp is rather more comprehensive.
The list of events on my ht page is the ones I have a link to, and it's broadly chronological, and there aren't so very many of them that it's hard to spot the one you want... <g>
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Then a rider surname can be searched for, sections and days on which sections will be running are clearly visible.
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For any one event, there is a report available on my site which does that, covering all riders (as usual). On an event site, look at "Section Start times, and Riders who have Entered". But agreed, not for all events that use my site taken together.
If the entries secretary sends the information up to BE, as she does to bdwp, then I believe that increasingly you can get that from BE's site as well. And it will cover all events where the e.s. uploads, not just Paul or my sites. Remember that the auto aspect of that on Paul's site will presumably only cover internet entries, not paper entries, unless the e.s. upload all entries received; also, some organisers are not happy for the entries made to be listed on the web at an early stage of the event as it can definitely make the administration more hairy!
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No new windows open, so I don't end up having a task bar full of pages that I can't keep track of..
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You shouldn't get that with the beacham site (or even most sites) - my site doesn't use frames or the like. Perhaps you need to adjust your browser settings not to open a new link in a new page or tab...
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I can also see if my entry has been received and track my entry on bdwp.
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Yes, well, see above <g> That'll be by internet, of course. And you do get an e-mail from BE confirming your entry and the money taken. And with the internet entries tools in my land-based system (the system the entries secretary runs on her computer) you get an e-mailed ECL after sectioning. (BTW, keeping your e-mail address up to date at BE is essential for that to work).
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I can also, importantly, track all of my entries for all events through their search facility.. Perhaps I'm being unfair as I know Beacham offers most of these aspects just IMO in not such a user friendly format, perhaps because some events still do not wish to offer online entries.
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There has been some nervousness in these early months, and the BE system is still not complete in some aspects, although that which it does it does well, and powerfully.
User-friendliness is an interesting thing. People have said in the past that they like being able to see everyone around them at the event so readily, and therefore don't mind the simplicity of what they get, but perhaps they're just being nice! (Well, they ARE being nice...)
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I also find the Beacham website is slower to display updates on event status' than bdwp.. It's nice to be kept updated even if it's just notification that a decision will be made at X time on X day. Perhaps I just miss these updates because I can't find them though!!
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When I'm fed things by organisers and entries secretaries, I put them up within minutes. If in doubt, or even as a matter of routine, click Refresh or Reload in your browser when you look at the lead page. Even I do that! But I do need to be told. Frankly, the BE Hotline is what most organisers feel should be the first port of call. The beacham site deals more with the entries themselves, although of course critical information is posted to maximise the chance you'll see it.
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I don't understand why all events don't offer online entries..?
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Not all entries secretaries use Paul's system, and BE's system is new enough that not all organisers use that yet where their entries secretaries use my system, or Lesley's, or other methods. But I reckon it'll be 100% coverage by the end of the season. Keep lobbying!
I didn't expect Mr Beacham himself to personally respond to our gripes..
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I didn't know about this forum until I was pointed to it yesterday because you were a bit fed up with my site!
Incidentally, less of the Mr Beacham - Bruce is fine
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Ok, I personally feel that the Beacham site is inevitably going to be compared to bdwp.
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Fair enough, although not wholly reasonable! Paul Harris's bdwp site is fully integrated with his internet entries system, whereas the beacham site doesn't take internet entries: that's a specialised area which I decided quite a while ago not to venture into, because my day job is quite unrelated to web applications - in fact unrelated to computers at all! Also, if anyone was going to re-invent that wheel it was going to be BE, and it's there that you will (or should) find the cross-referencing tools you (quite rightly) like to use. If the search tool you like isn't there, make a noise: e-mail / contact BE and ask for it. They do listen, but there's always a queue for tasks to be done.
So, on that basis, I try to keep my site simple and quick - after all, we're not long since we only had dial-up connections, at 56k if you were lucky!
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I find bdwp very user friendly,
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Agreed.
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Bdwp has a scrolled lists of events, in order and each event can be selected so you can go to that events home page.
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But, I believe, only of events for which the entries secretary concerned uses Paul's land-based system for managing the entries. Paul has been doing this for two decades plus, and Lesley Hagerty' for a rather shorter period, compared to my mere one and a bit decades! So, many events (and scorers) use Paul's system and bdwp is rather more comprehensive.
The list of events on my ht page is the ones I have a link to, and it's broadly chronological, and there aren't so very many of them that it's hard to spot the one you want... <g>
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Then a rider surname can be searched for, sections and days on which sections will be running are clearly visible.
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For any one event, there is a report available on my site which does that, covering all riders (as usual). On an event site, look at "Section Start times, and Riders who have Entered". But agreed, not for all events that use my site taken together.
If the entries secretary sends the information up to BE, as she does to bdwp, then I believe that increasingly you can get that from BE's site as well. And it will cover all events where the e.s. uploads, not just Paul or my sites. Remember that the auto aspect of that on Paul's site will presumably only cover internet entries, not paper entries, unless the e.s. upload all entries received; also, some organisers are not happy for the entries made to be listed on the web at an early stage of the event as it can definitely make the administration more hairy!
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No new windows open, so I don't end up having a task bar full of pages that I can't keep track of..
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You shouldn't get that with the beacham site (or even most sites) - my site doesn't use frames or the like. Perhaps you need to adjust your browser settings not to open a new link in a new page or tab...
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I can also see if my entry has been received and track my entry on bdwp.
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Yes, well, see above <g> That'll be by internet, of course. And you do get an e-mail from BE confirming your entry and the money taken. And with the internet entries tools in my land-based system (the system the entries secretary runs on her computer) you get an e-mailed ECL after sectioning. (BTW, keeping your e-mail address up to date at BE is essential for that to work).
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I can also, importantly, track all of my entries for all events through their search facility.. Perhaps I'm being unfair as I know Beacham offers most of these aspects just IMO in not such a user friendly format, perhaps because some events still do not wish to offer online entries.
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There has been some nervousness in these early months, and the BE system is still not complete in some aspects, although that which it does it does well, and powerfully.
User-friendliness is an interesting thing. People have said in the past that they like being able to see everyone around them at the event so readily, and therefore don't mind the simplicity of what they get, but perhaps they're just being nice! (Well, they ARE being nice...)
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I also find the Beacham website is slower to display updates on event status' than bdwp.. It's nice to be kept updated even if it's just notification that a decision will be made at X time on X day. Perhaps I just miss these updates because I can't find them though!!
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When I'm fed things by organisers and entries secretaries, I put them up within minutes. If in doubt, or even as a matter of routine, click Refresh or Reload in your browser when you look at the lead page. Even I do that! But I do need to be told. Frankly, the BE Hotline is what most organisers feel should be the first port of call. The beacham site deals more with the entries themselves, although of course critical information is posted to maximise the chance you'll see it.
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I don't understand why all events don't offer online entries..?
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Not all entries secretaries use Paul's system, and BE's system is new enough that not all organisers use that yet where their entries secretaries use my system, or Lesley's, or other methods. But I reckon it'll be 100% coverage by the end of the season. Keep lobbying!
DollyPentreath
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Bruce,
Thank you for such a comprehensive post. Firstly I feel I should apologise for saying your site is 'useless', please replace this with 'not as user friendly as Bdwp's site'! (Which I also realise is a slightly unfair, but still, I feel, inevitable comparison)
You've highlighted some points of which I was unaware and clarified a few things. Thank you.
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So, on that basis, I try to keep my site simple and quick
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To me this is where the site can improve, although as a totally rubbish and completely unqualified computer tech I'll leave that up to you!
Perhaps my original gripe with the site has more to do with organisers not taking internet entries and the people I should be speaking to are BE, also re search tools and the like..
Thank you again for clarifying some of my causes for concern, your advice and points have been noted.. Certainly by this event rider anyway!
Thank you for such a comprehensive post. Firstly I feel I should apologise for saying your site is 'useless', please replace this with 'not as user friendly as Bdwp's site'! (Which I also realise is a slightly unfair, but still, I feel, inevitable comparison)
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So, on that basis, I try to keep my site simple and quick
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To me this is where the site can improve, although as a totally rubbish and completely unqualified computer tech I'll leave that up to you!
Perhaps my original gripe with the site has more to do with organisers not taking internet entries and the people I should be speaking to are BE, also re search tools and the like..
Thank you again for clarifying some of my causes for concern, your advice and points have been noted.. Certainly by this event rider anyway!
tigers_eye
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Dear Bruce, many thanks for the information, and taking the time to listen to moaning riders who are just grouchy that they're missing runs! As Shaab says, the comparison with bdwp is inevitable, and whilst sometimes their hegemony wrankles me somewhat, they have filled a need that BE should have seen coming years ago. They (BE) have started to address this this year, and I have had good reports from those who do their entries via the BE website (instant confirmation of which ballot stickers one has used for instance - useful for forgetful riders!), however I haven't used this because for about the 10th time I have lost my pasword for the members part of the site.
I realise your website does not try to be the same as bdwp, the biggest difference being the online entries of course. Even so, it was via this forum that we found out that Wilton was a little bit dubious about running, and that later in the week there was to be a course inspection. This information could have been posted under the stop Press/News Bulletins part - nothing was posted in this section of the web-page until the decision was taken. Another point I do like about the bdwp site is that they list withdrawels too, allowing those wait-listed to gauge their chance of making it to the event.
The place I got the times available from was in the schedule - "STARTING TIMES are available between 26/07/2007 12:00 AM and 26/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01749 812994 for Friday Dressage or between 27/07/2007 12:00 AM and 27/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01980 611459 for all other classes. "
Again, many thanks for taking the time to listen to us, it is much appreciated, and I'm very sorry for the whole team for having to abandon the event.
I realise your website does not try to be the same as bdwp, the biggest difference being the online entries of course. Even so, it was via this forum that we found out that Wilton was a little bit dubious about running, and that later in the week there was to be a course inspection. This information could have been posted under the stop Press/News Bulletins part - nothing was posted in this section of the web-page until the decision was taken. Another point I do like about the bdwp site is that they list withdrawels too, allowing those wait-listed to gauge their chance of making it to the event.
The place I got the times available from was in the schedule - "STARTING TIMES are available between 26/07/2007 12:00 AM and 26/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01749 812994 for Friday Dressage or between 27/07/2007 12:00 AM and 27/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01980 611459 for all other classes. "
Again, many thanks for taking the time to listen to us, it is much appreciated, and I'm very sorry for the whole team for having to abandon the event.
bbeacham
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...moaning riders who are just grouchy that they're missing runs!
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And who can blame you!
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They (BE) have started to address this this year
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Actually, they had, after many conversations, started the project eighteen months earlier, but it stalled due to other pressures. So the desire/need had been recognised a while back.
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I have lost my password for the members part of the site
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When you find it (!) and log in, you can change the password to something more memorable, perhaps a password you use elsewhere (I know, bad practice...) for a medium-level security purpose. Needs to contain number(s) as well as letters.
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This information could have been posted under the stop Press/News Bulletins part - nothing was posted in this section of the web-page until the decision was taken.
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The upcoming Inspection was actually posted, when we learned of it (Tuesday?), on the /ht front page that lists the events, under Wilton. Perhaps you bookmarked the /wilton page so always bypassed that? Sorry, I should have marked it on that page too; my thinking was that the /ht page would catch the eye better.
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Another point I do like about the bdwp site is that they list withdrawels too, allowing those wait-listed to gauge their chance of making it to the event.
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Interesting point - I'll discuss that. Not technically hard, of course.
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The place I got the times available from was in the schedule - "STARTING TIMES are available between 26/07/2007 12:00 AM and 26/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01749 812994 for Friday Dressage or between 27/07/2007 12:00 AM and 27/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01980 611459 for all other classes. "
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LOL! While the days stated are as close to the event as is permitted (the official time they should be available is 6pm the night before the run), no-one spotted that a window for phoning of less than a second, and that at midnight, isn't very useful. That part of the schedule has presumably been the same for months!
Of course, we all now expect times to be available on-line when the scorer has done them, usually well before that time, and even before that day. You would indeed have had them in a full posting of times after Thursday lunchtime if the event had had the go-ahead.
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I'm very sorry for the whole team for having to abandon the event.
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They'll appreciate that - I'll pass it on.
...moaning riders who are just grouchy that they're missing runs!
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And who can blame you!
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They (BE) have started to address this this year
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Actually, they had, after many conversations, started the project eighteen months earlier, but it stalled due to other pressures. So the desire/need had been recognised a while back.
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I have lost my password for the members part of the site
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When you find it (!) and log in, you can change the password to something more memorable, perhaps a password you use elsewhere (I know, bad practice...) for a medium-level security purpose. Needs to contain number(s) as well as letters.
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This information could have been posted under the stop Press/News Bulletins part - nothing was posted in this section of the web-page until the decision was taken.
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The upcoming Inspection was actually posted, when we learned of it (Tuesday?), on the /ht front page that lists the events, under Wilton. Perhaps you bookmarked the /wilton page so always bypassed that? Sorry, I should have marked it on that page too; my thinking was that the /ht page would catch the eye better.
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Another point I do like about the bdwp site is that they list withdrawels too, allowing those wait-listed to gauge their chance of making it to the event.
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Interesting point - I'll discuss that. Not technically hard, of course.
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The place I got the times available from was in the schedule - "STARTING TIMES are available between 26/07/2007 12:00 AM and 26/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01749 812994 for Friday Dressage or between 27/07/2007 12:00 AM and 27/07/2007 12:00 AM on 01980 611459 for all other classes. "
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LOL! While the days stated are as close to the event as is permitted (the official time they should be available is 6pm the night before the run), no-one spotted that a window for phoning of less than a second, and that at midnight, isn't very useful. That part of the schedule has presumably been the same for months!
Of course, we all now expect times to be available on-line when the scorer has done them, usually well before that time, and even before that day. You would indeed have had them in a full posting of times after Thursday lunchtime if the event had had the go-ahead.
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I'm very sorry for the whole team for having to abandon the event.
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They'll appreciate that - I'll pass it on.