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They are trying to build a 60 metre wind turbine 150 metres from my land (300 metres from my house and others!). Has anyone got any info to help squash this rediculous idea! Im concerned of the effects to my horses, having one with sweet itch and i breed. Every one living near the turbine has objected, wrote letters and signed petitions!
And get this for a laugh pple from 20 miles away have wrote letters in approval!!!!! Wonder if they would think it so great if it was that close to their home!
 
Aren't there regulations as to whether people would be close enough to be affected by the "swoosh" from the blades? (Sound and vibration) That could be something to base your objection on. Round by us everyone is applying for wind turbines to get themselves free electricity - there are firms going round really pushing them. Lets hope that the people miles away from you giving their approval end up in the same position themselves soon!
 
I totally understand you frustrations. I have cousins in Scotland who live not far from a windfarm.

When I visit, they are not noticeable and the community have got used to it despite the protests at first. They are now accepted as part of modern renewable energy resource and even though a few people still tie themselves to the railings and do daft things, most are quite oblivious. Even the horses and other animals.

Sorry, this isn't helping you really but animals do get used to things. Good luck with your petitions anyway and you get the outcome you are looking for.
 
Im sorry to hear this, How far is the turbine from your house? Do you have a link to the planning application? Presume all checks have been undertaken at your dwelling, noise monitoring, SEPA checks (or equivilant depending where you are based), RSPB survey, Bat survey, etc etc, I also presume that you must be in quite a windy area, (or no point in turbine) does this not help with the horse who has sweetitch? Im not sure how you can link the sweetitch problem with the turbine?? We have one proposed for very near us, and although not thrilled by the idea initially, we have got used to it, and now it seems a very long way off as not all proposals have been met, so dont panic, not all get passed, We have been to see some very big ones to get an idea about noise etc and its (for us, perhaps not for others) not as big a deal as some people hype it up to be, we also hacked under some pretty big ones and our horses seemed very unconcerned about them and far more concerned about some unassuming wheelie bins!
If you are really against it, then do your research, present a proper case to the planning department, back it up with facts and figures and proof, if you feel that it will be too much faff then unfortunately the powers that be will whack it up anyway!
 
I have heard rumours that turbines can blow alot of crap about that could irritate a sweet itch pony evan more, wondered if anyone has actually experianced it????
No we are not a windy area, ones are a approx 5 miles away are never on! All research that has been done by us residents shows that wind turbines basically dont work, not one has ever seemed to produce the energy it was claimed to, and the amount of concrete used in the base certainly isnt good for carbon emmisions! Pple with pacemakers cant live near them but i know that argument doesntwork as i know a case where the turbines still went ahead.
In europe there are regulations that ensure turbines are not built within 1km of homes but we dont have anything like that here, i dont think 300 metres is far enough away from a house, and it is directly infront of the houses with no hills or forests ect. to obstruct the view from your door/windows. The government are evan now talking about making a u-turn on wind energy but the golf course that are errecting this turbine seem desperate to push it through before then, i think they are just interested in the payouts they will get by having it on the land.
With any luck the b*****d thing will blow over, the golf course will go bankrupt and i will buy it all for pennies and make it into a big cross country course! haha!
 
Do you mean the turbine would blow more of the midges that cause sweet itch near the horse/pony, as i thought it was biting midges that were the cause? Its not something ive ever heard of tbf?
So will people be playing golf underneath the turbine?
Link to planning application?
 
We have this going on too at the moment but we have a small air strip that is managing to holt ours for now. The wires that hold it up are deadly too, as you cant see them very well. It is actually quite hard to stop these things going through though.
 
Thanks for the tip on previous threads have found a few and everyone seems to agree the ggs dont mind them, have been so worried that my pregnant mares would end up taking off round the fields and hurting themselves when the blades were going, its a releif to know they should be ok!
I studied environmental science and when turbines started i initailly thought they were good but they arent as good as they appear, to be honest eveything i have read just seems to make them a huge waste of space! I think they should put mini turbines on top of the buildings in cities that need the most electric and leave our country side alone! (Cliche i know!)
 
We are also on a green belt so i need full planning permission for anything i do on my land but they can put up a wind turbine. Just another example of the whole fat cats getting fatter and one rule for them one rule for us crap!
 
We have some that're quite close and it was so funny the first time the horses saw them! They all stopped dead at exactly the same time (a ride of about 12 horses and ponies) one tried to run but was stopped by it's rider.
They're now well used to them and don't even look at them.

I can understand why you don't want them, but I'm afraid I can't help you out! Good luck though :)
 
We had a big planning thing and villagers against us as we (my family) and Eon or whoever does the wind turbines wanted to put some on our land. To be honest they would obstruct our view, so we weren't the only ones losing out although we do get paid to have them.

Personally I believe it is a case of a lot people moaning about the environment, pollution and the need for more renewable energy... BUT as soon as it comes to their back garden they are all up in arms about the whole development. Its a no win situation. Unfortunately unlike other countries we dont have the space to have them built at least 1km from residents. We are a country already pushed to our limits when it comes to space.

I know first hand a lot of time goes into researching the area and the animal inhabitants, bird migratory patterns etc.. and a large percentage of them do get turned down so dont be getting your feathers too ruffled just yet.


I also think I would rather see a line of, ok not beautiful, slightly majestic, looking wind turbines than I would see several massive nuclear power stations which would cause untold damage if an accident was to occur. The wind turbines wont be an end of, new ways to hold and make power will be developed and the turbines will eventually dismantled. But for now they do more good than bad. I'd rather look after the future world to come than quibble over something ruining my view.

Just one final point too... how often do people notice electricity pylons? They to me are far uglier than wind turbines, but we have eventually got used to seeing them and for me I dont really notice them, perhaps the same can be said for wind turbines?
 
I wouldn't worry too much - they barely work lol. It has to be the right type of wind to get them going :D

I quite like the look of them :o - although I know in icy conditions they can be dangerous but then where we are they only occasionally move :eek:
 
sadly we have a PM who's FIL is making a fortune out of this con , I think the age of peak renwables isnt too far away as more and more people realise these uselless blights on our
landscape cost fortunes (aparenty adding 20% to domestic electricity bills)and produce little apart from subsidys to wealthy landowners and forighn energy companys.... A pox on them and the green lobby watermelons ....
 
We have one on our shoot field. Doesn't cause us, the cows with calves, sheep with lambs or horses next door any problems.

Gives me a big fat landmark to aim at for home if I get lost out hunting!!!!!
 
I don't like the noise they emit either, have been near them in Scotland and Wales, ugly looking things and half of them weren't even moving.
I prefer the idea of geothermal energy, shame it's only in it's infancy over here but think it will become bigger over the years.

PS add on, for people who have been PM ing me to ask what it is, have a look at this link, you can produce hot water or turn it into electricity

http://www.tnddrilling.co.uk/
 
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There is a place for wind turbines IMO - but that place isn't randomly scattered about the countryside. I recently heard that the portugese took on the wind farm idea but instead of importing the stuff they had the manufacturers make a manufacturing place in portugal and then trained portugese - hence portugese having more job openings etc.
One of the problems over here is that if its too windy they have to be off and overnight there isn't much in the way of need for electric (especially compared to day) so less power needed. So wind turbines could be put to use at that point to pump water back up mountains for hydro electric. The cost of production etc is ridiculous.

All that aside though - there are turbines popping up all over the place in my area. Out hacking the most my spooky horse has done is stare at it. No running/spinning etc, just staring at it trying to work out what it was. If he was in view of it all the time i'm sure he'd be settled in no time just like many other horses.
Ditto re the sweetitch - can't see how it will make any difference
 
5horses2dogsandacat said:
We had a big planning thing and villagers against us as we (my family) and Eon or whoever does the wind turbines wanted to put some on our land. To be honest they would obstruct our view, so we weren't the only ones losing out although we do get paid to have them.

Personally I believe it is a case of a lot people moaning about the environment, pollution and the need for more renewable energy... BUT as soon as it comes to their back garden they are all up in arms about the whole development. Its a no win situation. Unfortunately unlike other countries we dont have the space to have them built at least 1km from residents. We are a country already pushed to our limits when it comes to space.

I know first hand a lot of time goes into researching the area and the animal inhabitants, bird migratory patterns etc.. and a large percentage of them do get turned down so dont be getting your feathers too ruffled just yet.


I also think I would rather see a line of, ok not beautiful, slightly majestic, looking wind turbines than I would see several massive nuclear power stations which would cause untold damage if an accident was to occur. The wind turbines wont be an end of, new ways to hold and make power will be developed and the turbines will eventually dismantled. But for now they do more good than bad. I'd rather look after the future world to come than quibble over something ruining my view.

Just one final point too... how often do people notice electricity pylons? They to me are far uglier than wind turbines, but we have eventually got used to seeing them and for me I dont really notice them, perhaps the same can be said for wind turbines?
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I think you should have a meter fitted so when they are working you get electric other times you should be useing candles!! Hope the cheque makes up for people hateing you and despoiling the countryside!!!!
 
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We lived in a very exposed area, there are wind-turbines sprouting up almost weekly, some very close to the house. I have to admit that none have yet threatened our view, so even though some neighbours have asked us to, we haven't felt the need to object. The horses really don't care about them, even on 1st sight. The only problem we have ever had is the very small turbine, which was the first very local one, which unfortunately is placed so that it casts a flickering shadow right on an awkward bend in at a pretty busy junction. It is definitely the moving shadow that causes the problem, not the turbine itself. The Clydie did, at first, object to the noise that one made.
Just like the park bench which turned up one day on the common and caused complete consternation (more than any of the turbines), the horses are expected to get used to them, so they do.
 
The fat cats get good feed in tariffs for the electricity produced its nothing to do with being green etc. I think if landowners want them they have to put them next to their properties not near someone elses.

Usually they have to do a trial run to see if its windy enough? We had one near us and it failed. I know a village near us got it turned down first time round but I think it got passed last year?? The government are supposed to be making it easier to object to these kind of developments and at the moment its all about hitting green emissions under EU targets etc...its not saving the planet as we shifted all our coal mine powered manufacturing and are just polluting India and China instead..sorry just makes me mad reading all this green nonsense.

The PC/village near us that were successful first time round are Bennington in Herts might be worth contacting the Parish council and try to find out how they got it turned down. But I think it went through or was about to again....its all about £££££££££. I can fully sympathise as despite our efforts in our village to get a digester turned down it went ahead. The council dont care as long as they meet the government targets on emissions. Countryside etc is at bottom of pile. Sorry but good luck its most frustrating etc.
 
5horses2dogsandacat- i agree they arent as bad to look at as a power station but that doesnt make them a nice thing! Plus i dont think many pple would quibble over a view if they were getting £250,000 a yr ( this is the sum that this particular turbine is going to make the for the golf club!)!
Plus its not just views its property prices aswell, nobody wants thousands of pounds taking off their property regardless of the reason!
FOR THE RECORD - i have been against turbines for yrs, long before there is going to be one infront of my house, im not a NIMBY!!!! Pretty sure the golf club commitee wouldnt have it next to there house!
Unfortunatly an article in the local paper today stated planners urged to agree to turbine. So it aint looking good, plus there has been alot of under handed activities going on from the start eg residents not getting letters informing them of closing dates for objections, links given by council to view plans dont work or wont give you access! All in all a bit of a shambles!
 
Yes im against offshore, the ones in the north sea are failing big time, because of the sediment and currents they are struggling to keep them standing in one place, therefore spending huge amounts of tax payer money on them and not getting a fraction of that back in power! But this is why our government are back tracking they have finally realised that they are not sustainable! If pple are so for turbines being so great why dont they donate all their subsidies to local hospitals, schools, charitie, fixing pot holes in the roads lol. If they think turbines are good they wont be bothered about getting the money!
 
lq22 said:
Would you object to off shore wind farms?
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No as long as they are built and payed for by the energy companys no subsidy !! just think that the ones in the sea are even more stupid as they wont last and will be a maintanace nightmare I wonder how many people will be killed or injured getting out to maintain or build them ...
 
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perfect11s said:
No as long as they are built and payed for by the energy companys no subsidy !! just think that the ones in the sea are even more stupid as they wont last and will be a maintanace nightmare I wonder how many people will be killed or injured getting out to maintain or build them ...
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I wasn't trying to argue I just wasn't sure if you were completely against the idea of turbines or if it was just the location of them you were not in favour of.
 
Deraden said:
Yes im against offshore, the ones in the north sea are failing big time, because of the sediment and currents they are struggling to keep them standing in one place, therefore spending huge amounts of tax payer money on them and not getting a fraction of that back in power! But this is why our government are back tracking they have finally realised that they are not sustainable! If pple are so for turbines being so great why dont they donate all their subsidies to local hospitals, schools, charitie, fixing pot holes in the roads lol. If they think turbines are good they wont be bothered about getting the money!
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What form of alternative energy generator are you in favour of?
 
lq22 said:
I wasn't trying to argue I just wasn't sure if you were completely against the idea of turbines or if it was just the location of them you were not in favour of.
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Against anything that dosent work properly and takes money off the poor and gives to the rich which is what windmills do at the moment!!!! wonders also what efect it has on the rural tourism industry I personaly used to love going to wales, for peace and soiltude now I find it depresing, every hill top and valley are littered with these horrors..
 
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