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Come on, tell me your wolf teeth extraction experiences as I have two needing it done. Thanks.
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3yo had them out, vet gave a bit of dope, they were held quite tight and probably took a couple of minutes each to get the beggers. Bled a little. Horsey is fine.
 
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Ditto, we had no problems when one of ours needed a wolf tooth removing either.
 
Dead easy procedure on my 5yo, gave him a small sedative (mainly as he was also having another tooth out), dentist whipped out the tooth really quickly & I was amazed how small it was.
 
Nightmare with Murphy, Tarquin doesn't have any thankfully. Problem with Murph was that even though he is really laid back and good with his teeth being looked at with/without gag my vet insisted on domosedan to dope him, I would personally have used ACP at the most. Hence Murphy goes to sleep head on the floor, as I was away my mum held him and she had to hold his head up with the Hausmann gag on so the vet could extract the teeth. This is not safe and I wouldn't have let him do it. Needless to say he did it, charged me 140 pounds and my mum ended up spend until midnight with Murphy as he wasn't coming round very well and vet said he'd have to be tied up until he came too properly or he might strangle himself on his door!!! This vet is widely respected in Warwickshire and I was horrified at what he'd done as he's usually great and listens to you when you say your horse dopes easily.
Anyway long and short of it was that in his efforts to remove the teeth from a horse almost lying down was that he broke one of the wolf teeth, never said anything about it and a year later my dentist had to remove it again as it had grown sideways into the gum. She did this with no sedation and he just stood there like an angel. Hence my suspicion of vets and teeth unless it is their specialist field. Peter Green MRCVS who examines on dentistry did Tarquin and did sedate him but took weight tape measurement and did body score him to assess level of dope, my old vet didn't even see Murphy without his rug on. Also the second removal of Murphy's wolf tooth cost just 25 pounds and have never had any trouble since.
 
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Perhaps I should sell my two and buy another two horses who don't have any wolf teeth?!
Any suggestions as to how I avoid your scenario? It would be a big vet practice doing it (Kearns and Rea).
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Not being an expert, not sure how heavily sedated! but was less than my other horse needs sedating just for a normal tooth rasp! He was a bit dopey for perhaps an hour or so, but I was able to load him and take him home after about 1/2 hour (had gone to local equine hospital for the appointment as dentist wasn't due to come to yard for a couple of months).

Gave him the day off and just hacked next couple of days so that he could get used to the new feel in his mouth (the other tooth taken out was a lot bigger).

Yes I did keep the teeth afterwards! but disappointed as noone else was interested! actually will have to have a look to see if I still have them!
 
I had my 2 year old filly done last week. I asked them to sedate her as this was her first dentist treatment and didn't want her having bad experiences. The dentist who did mine is also a vet so she was able to sedate. She took Callis heart rate and breathing. Sedated her and she was out of it in about 20 seconds flat. Legs were a bit wobbly but she stood up. The wolf teeth were difficult to extract and the dentist used a small hammer to remove them as they wouldn't twist and flick out. Then they did. I too couldn't believe how small woof teeth were. Quite a bit of blood but not tonnes. Also had her teeth rasped which for a two year old had a couple of hooks which the dentist let me feel!!!!. Calli was back to normal after 2 hours and was allowed to have a very wet feed, water as normal, and a third of her normal amount of hay. And for me to expect Calli to ball her hay up as she was chewing differently now and she had to get used to doing it. But no problems (greedy neddy!!!!) Back to normal the next morning and banging on the door for feed!!! Yes kept the tooth. Cost me £125.00 including the sedation and rasping and extraction.
 
Hopefully yours wont be as traumatic as Murphy's! Just be wary of too much dope to begin, after all if it isn't enough they can top it up. Think my old vet thought he'd avoid the problems by using strong dope, also most vets and dentists now use the head prop thingy so its easy to look in the mouth once the horse is sedated. Tarquin was fine once doped but like mandy's he did atleast check Tarquin out before he doped him.
 
Dentist/vet said that to me also she will only give a bit to start off with as it is easier to top it up if they come back round but you can't take it away if you give too much. She gave 10ml of one drug and 5 of another. I can find out if you want to know as written on the report.
 
I asked for that. But the vet wouldn't. But she did give Calli a pain killer afterwards (forgot that bit) but said it was more for mum than the horse!!!! Made me feel better anway until I handed over the cheque.
 
That doesnt sound good! As a rule of thumb I would say 95% of vets use Dormosedan and Tobugesic as a sedative for dentistry of any kind. Though I agree he should have taken into account that he didnt need too much dope and assessed his weight and TPR......naughty!
 
No I enrolled for it but changed my mind at the last minute and did Equine Science there instead. I wanted to learn as much as poss about the whole horse and then go onto the dentistry when I graduated. Just as well I did because I started the same year as the EDS degree started so it was a guinea pig year and did not go too well! The dentistry lecturer left after 7 months and there was nobody to lecture for 4 months and the students did not fair too well.

I didnt want to be a guinea pig and Hartpury is famous for Equine Science so was very happy with my decision!
 
My mare had quite deep-rooted wolf teeth and needed IV sedation. They were a bit of a b*gger to get out! She looked very sorry for herself for an hour afterwards and I felt rather guilty, but she soon perked up again. Was told not to use a bit for at least a week.

Must say it made quite a difference - she became much more consistent in her contact after they were removed.
 
Ang-B,
Wolf teeth are removed for a couple of reasons;
1. They don't serve any real purpose, being vestigial, but can get broken/infected etc.
2. They interfere with the bit and therefore the contact.
Depends where they are, I suppose.
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Mine only needed her wolf teeth removing at 4/5 year old.
The dentist removed one (she wasn't sedated at all, just had the gag in), but the other wasn't interfering with her bit so he left it alone for another 6 months. He was going to remove this on his next visit but it had fallen out on it's own before then. From the sounds of this thread I think I've been very lucky with her
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Chancer has had one removed - came out with fingers as was so tiny and loose. Other one is still there and was told to leave it unless caused a problem. In Chancer's mouth it will probably also be pushed out the same way as the other one according to my dentist.

No dope or sedation and a little blood afterwards which was soon got rid of by giving him a couple of minty cubes which he had no problems munching up.
 
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