Wonder collar and Bikejoring

A slip collar (or choke chain) high on the neck and used correctly (timing is everything, as is back-up with a positive experience) can be useful for more difficult dogs (ones that get heavily fixated and respond to compulsion rather than being tempted by a food or ball) in control situation, yes.
 
So many theories aren't there- alot of stuff I have read says remove all neck pressure on loons.......

Well I guess its a try it and see type affair- if it works stick with it.
 
Depends on the kind of loon, I think. Ricoh reacts very badly to any pressure and starts thrashing, a headcollar would be his worst nightmare and that collar would probably have him crabbing along and spinning, whereas Dax calmed immeasurably in a slip or choke collar.

One of those try it and see things, I reckon. :)
 
So what do you use on Ricoh then?
I think Dex fights his headcollar once he has gotten over excited by another dog, but a half check he ignores, and the choke chain never stays where I was told it was suposed to be- as in behind his ears- so he strangles himself, and can come back with blood shot eyes from pulling against it so hard (not just walking along- but if he is reacting).
His harness on its own gives him too much lunge room

May just hobble him LOL....
 
As Blackcob says, it's horses for courses, dogs for collars and harnesses and blah!
If the chain or slip is slipping, get a smaller one/use the rubber stopper to keep the circle closed.
TBH if dogs get bloodshot eyes from pulling against a collar againt you or scrape their face and spin with a headcollar I would say let them get on with it, stay still and calm and keep ignoring them until they wise up, or keep moving and wait until they wise up :p
 
Yeah what we are doing now is working- as in can have a non reactive- you can blumming well look at the dog but not react at a distance of about 15ft but still if another dog leaps out of a hedge at us- he reacts then grapples with his headcollar in protest, but this new trainer says to walk him on a harness and headcollar so we have been (she was not best pleased with the whole choke chain plan...... )

Maybe If I just had one leg removed----- or he went blind? I am of course joking...
 
I use a limited slip like this:

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Which is enough to stop him backing out of it (that's another thing I wasn't used to, Dax always went forwards, he will spin and go backwards!) but basically a plain collar otherwise. It's the same as the top part of that Wonder Collar, I just think the 'scaffolding' bit would freak him out, underneath all the howling bravado he's a sensitive soul. :p
 
Yeah Dex is too- well that is what all the trainers have said- looks can be deceptive eh..... ok off to google limited slip collars.
 
They're traditionally used on sled dogs because you don't want to be dealing with buckles in arctic conditions (gloves are too thick to manipulate them, plastic ones aren't strong enough, metal ones will freeze on the dog) and because they are gits for backing out of collars. :p May get more results for 'semi slip' collar.
 
Thankies
I do keep threatening Dex with being sent to live with the sled dogs without a jumper!!! (walks so nicely alone, walk with another dog- madness)
Also been looking at the flyball collars- with the extra handle- might be worth a go- something extra to grab onto if needs be.
 
My trainer is from the 'you'll not break him' school :p
Do agree though, I've seen some dogs really buck up and pay attention and move smartly after a few pops on a flat link choke, they respect the direction, no ambiguity, no constant leaning/resistance, I've seen others drop their tails and their heads and look miserable, depends on the dog.
 
Our trainer is a fluffy bunny positive-R type who tuts at me for even remotely tugging on the lead. :p

I just take a bit from everything I read/see/do and don't let her catch me using my foot. :p
 
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