WOOHOOOO... I passed my B+E :D

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As title, last Friday I passed my B+E first time with only 2 minors! :D WOOHOOOO! :D :D :D

As ever, it wasn't straight forward, had some drama thrown in, together with a costly lesson learnt..... :o A truly 'testing' experience, in more ways than one!!

Firstly, I have a 'manual' Shogun Pinin, and recently purchased a 'semi-automatic' big version of the Shogun with the intention of selling my manual. I decided to do my lessons and test in the automatic as that was the truck I had just purchased, and would be towing with. Late on Monday, my instructor texted to say if I did the test in my automatic, my towing licence would be restricted to automatics only! :eek:

After much contemplation, I decided to use my manual, as what was the point spending all that money and going through a test, to be restricted right...

My manual had been stood for a few weeks, so that night I moved it out the back yard when I got home from work with the intention of driving it to work the next day. Got in it, and my brakes were seized and grinding, and my window wipers didn't clear the water off my screen properly leaving my screen blurry.

Tuesday came, and whilst at work I frantically rang the garage to get my truck booked in for that day to have the necesary work done. Luckily I got it in and sorted, phew! The brakes just needed cleaning up, and the wipers were replaced.

Wednesday I had a few hours lesson with my instructor as a re-fresher, and to gauge how to do the reversing maneuver in my smaller manual (not only were my mirror points and turning circle different, but also had clutch control/speed to think about). At night, I made sure I had both parts of my licence in my handbag, as the next day was D day... my test.

Thursday came, I did a couple more reverses in the car park, and were just on my merry way to the test centre (30 miles away), when my instructor spotted a side light had gone on my truck! He said that they wouldn't take me on test if it was out. WHAT!! :eek: :( :eek:

Fortunately, (or so you would think), I had a spare bulb in my glove box. We tried to change it ourselves to no avail. We could not gain access to the light cluster as it was embeded within the bumper, and you couldn't even access it from underneath/behind the bumper.

Cue a further frantic call to my mechanic friend, who told me to call in en route. We arrived at the garage, and 10 minutes of horrendous fiddling, and wallah, the bulb was replaced, and we were on our way.

We arrived at the test centre, and my instructor asked me for both parts of my licence. I went in my bag, and my paper part was missing! NOOOOOO! :eek: *HEAD-SMASH-OFF-STEERING-WHEEL*... That morning, I had taken out of my bag my unhitching/hitching instructions as a quick last minute check, and my licence must have come out at the same time without me realising.

Desperately I rang my OH, and he confirmed it was on the kitchen work top. As I was on the phone the examiner approached us. My instructor explained what the problem was, and I confirmed my OH would bring it over straight away - would be there in 20 minutes tops. His response.... without both parts of licence, he would NOT take me out. No amount of pleading helped - he sent me home not allowing me to do my test. Yes, you guessed it, I lost my test fee. :(

As I was driving home, my instructor had said he had spoken to the examiners whilst I had used the ladies. The examiner that was due to take me out had said if I had used my automatic, I would have been fine - didn't make a difference, and would not have restricted my licence. Another examiner joined the discussion and disagreed. Cue them calling Nottingham (dvla?) and they said that it would not restrict my licence if I were to use an automatic. The right hand didn't know what the left hand was saying!! :rolleyes:

My instructor was in the process of re-booking my test, so asked me which truck I'd be using - I said manual - I was not going to risk it if they 'changed' their minds again. Amazingly, they had a test slot for the next morning, and so I booked it, and had to pay again!

Friday morning came, and I drove to the test centre determined more than ever not to stuff it up - my stress levels were maxed out and there was no way I would have coped with another knock back.

Anyway, test time - I remember both parts of my licence :D and off I went. I did my show me tell me questions, then had an audiance whilst doing my reversing maneuver, (and thank goodness I did it in one, perfectly straight, even and in the box), then went out to do the driving test part, finishing with my unhitch and hitching excerise.

THANK GOD I PASSED WITH FLYING COLOURS! ....and breathe.... xx :D
 
My god I'm breathless just reading that , seems like a game of fortunately/unfortunately :D

Now comes the bang of champagne corks hitting the roof and a big round of congratulations wayyy hayyy you got wheels now girl...so where are you heading first??:rolleyes::D:)
 
Thank you so much Paddy Irish. It was a hellish rollercoaster journey, but worth it in the end.

My first outing... hmmmm.... I think it will be to the beach! Sounds like a good plan to me! xx
 
Hurrah!!! Well done!

I have mine in 2 weeks - Im TERRIFIED!!!

Please could you send me a copy or link to your Hitch/unhitch instructions?

I have only been traning with mum so far (Official lessons start next week) - and this bit I cant find online!!!

thanks :D
 
Hurrah!!! Well done!

I have mine in 2 weeks - Im TERRIFIED!!!

Please could you send me a copy or link to your Hitch/unhitch instructions?

I have only been traning with mum so far (Official lessons start next week) - and this bit I cant find online!!!

thanks :D

Oh my, GOOD LUCK! Learn from my silly mistakes please! You wll be fine, the test is very straight forward, and as long as you have practised, practised, practised, you will fly through!

I have only got them printed out, so bear with me, and I will type them on here for you....

Is your test centre in your area? Mine was 30 miles away, so I spent several hours driving around the town to try learn my way about, negotiating the various speed limits, driving in bus lanes and the restrictions when you're not able to, etc... xx
 
Thank you Tallyho! The relief I have it under my belt is immense! It was worth it. :)

First roadtrip has to be the beach of course! I might look into taking my golden oldie out to some competitions, and in spring, taking my youngster to the breaking yard! xx
 
B+E trailer coupling instrcutions:

To uncouple:-

1) Put the handbrake on the trailer on.
2) Release jockey wheel to the floor and tighten in place.
3) Remove electrics lead, and stow securely.
4) Remove safety brake cable from tow bar, and stow securely.
5) Release button on coupling, turn jockey wheel to lift off the ball.

Then, you get back in your truck, pull forward away from the trailer, and then reverse back along side the trailer. The examiner will then ask you to hitch up to the trailer like you have never been to it before.

What I did, was pull forward, get in line and back up towards the trailer, stopping a few metres in front of it. I got out, and squatted near to the coupling eye-ing up whether it was to the correct height to hitch up at - making it really obvious what I was doing. I then had a tug to ensure the hand brake was firmly on, and felt that the handle on the jockey wheel was tight.

I then proceded to tug on all of the doors making sure they were secure and fastened. I checked the tyres having a feel, ensure that there were no bulges/scrapes. Also checking that the lights were in tact. Back to the truck....

To couple up:-

1) Reverse back to the trailer, with the coupling in place over tow bar (or near to).
2) Secure brake saftey cable around tow bar BEFORE you do anything else.
3) If you need to manually move trailer in place, remove hand brake, pull trailer in place, and apply hand brake again.
4) Winding the jockey wheel, lower coupling onto ball.
5) Check coupling is securely connected.
6) Release jockey wheel, lift wheel up, and tighten handle securely.
7) Connect electrics.
8) Release handbrake on trailer.
9) You the HAVE to ask the examiner if they would mind checking your lights for you.
10) Get back in your truck, turn lights on (side/main/fog), do brakes and indicators.


Hope this helps! xx
 
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I passed my B+E first time with only 2 minors! :D WOOHOOOO! :D :D :D
WELL DONE :):D


Late on Monday, my instructor texted to say if I did the test in my automatic, my towing licence would be restricted to automatics only! :eek:
The examiner that was due to take me out had said if I had used my automatic, I would have been fine - didn't make a difference, and would not have restricted my licence. Another examiner joined the discussion and disagreed. Cue them calling Nottingham (dvla?) and they said that it would not restrict my licence if I were to use an automatic.
This is interesting as I got two different VERBAL answers from DVLA so I have now e-mailed them with this question -
Driver passes B manual and then passes B+E auto - which B+E licence do they get - manual or auto?

The DVLNI in northern Ireland give manual for B+E but DVLA rules are different because passing C manual and then CE auto gives CE auto but in NI doing the same gives CE manual !!!!!!
 
Thank you very much Rog! This is me ---> :D

Ah yes, exactly the same thing my instructor said. I queried why would it matter when I had proven that I could drive a manual when I passed my driving test. Surely the B+E is merely to see if you are safe to tow, and capable of backing a trailer. Clearly it is not that simple! :rolleyes:

It will be intriguing to see what response you get! xx
 
Thank you very much Rog! This is me ---> :D

Ah yes, exactly the same thing my instructor said. I queried why would it matter when I had proven that I could drive a manual when I passed my driving test. Surely the B+E is merely to see if you are safe to tow, and capable of backing a trailer. Clearly it is not that simple! :rolleyes:

It will be intriguing to see what response you get! xx

Got the answer -

from DVLA Email donotreply.contactcentre@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

22 November 2011 11:57

Dear ROG

Thank you for your email received on 21/11/11. Your email reference number is 782256.

I can confirm that if an automatic test was passed in category BE, then that category would be restricted to automatic vehicles only.

https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/emaildvla/cegemail/directgov/en/reply_form_drivers.html

Regards

M Newman

Customer Enquiries Group

DVLA
 
Great news, may I ask how long you were practicing for prior to taking your test?
I am hoping to get my bf to book me a course & test as a xmas present but they are really quite expensive so want to have the best possible chance of passing.
 
Great news, may I ask how long you were practicing for prior to taking your test?
I am hoping to get my bf to book me a course & test as a xmas present but they are really quite expensive so want to have the best possible chance of passing.
A bit of advice for you -

If you can get to use a trailer on private land or with L plates then do so as that will help especially if you can get to reverse it a lot

Get rid of the rear view mirror in your current vehicle and use only side mirrors

Start doing the mirror, mirror, blind spot procedures that the DSA want to see on test

Keep checking side mirrors when driving

Try not to use brakes or gears for slowing down - ease off early enough to allow the engine braking to do it

Do not go down through the gears - the DSA expect you to slow or brake down to the speed you require and THEN select the apropriate gear
 
Got the answer -

from DVLA Email donotreply.contactcentre@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

22 November 2011 11:57

Dear ROG

Thank you for your email received on 21/11/11. Your email reference number is 782256.

I can confirm that if an automatic test was passed in category BE, then that category would be restricted to automatic vehicles only.

https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/emaildvla/cegemail/directgov/en/reply_form_drivers.html

Regards

M Newman

Customer Enquiries Group

DVLA

VERY interesting read indeed. Thank you so much for posting ROG - that clears that one up then!

THANK GOD I had the sense to use my manual. I would have really kicked myself if I had listened and swayed to use my automatic! xx
 
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Well done you x
 
Great news, may I ask how long you were practicing for prior to taking your test?
I am hoping to get my bf to book me a course & test as a xmas present but they are really quite expensive so want to have the best possible chance of passing.

Great advice from ROG.

As from personal experience, I had my own truck and trailer beforehand, and was fortunate to get plenty of towing experience on the roads, and with backing. So I was uber confident before I had even started my lessons.

I had around 14 hours in lessons with my instructor. The main amount of time was becoming au fait with the town I was doing my test around. It was 30 miles away from where I lived, and I hadn't got a clue about the place, and it was alot busier than where I live. I had to contend with bus lanes and times you were allowed to drive in them, and when you were not, a stupendous amount of roundabouts and traffic lights, not to mention the 'hidden' speed limits (the signs were not always obvious)! In that time I had around 2 hours practising the reversing exercise.

My main advice would be to practice, practice, practice you're reversing. If you have space, the best reversing exercise I did to learn how to control it, was to do LONG straight lines.

Take it steady, and watch both mirrors, ensuring the trailer is equal in both. The smallest movement can have a dramatic effect on the trailer, and correcting it needs a small adjustment too usually. If you do end up kinking, a great thing to remember is to turn the wheel towards the mirror that the trailer is in the most, and as it comes in line, meet it the other way and catch it in the other mirror turning the wheel the other way - obvious aim is to back with the wheel straight, and only do minor tweeks with the wheel here and there.

It doesn't happen overnight, so don't panic if it goes wrong. Just pull forward, get your truck and trailer straight, and try again. It appears really difficult at first, but given an hour of practice, you get a feel for it, and it will just 'click'.

Anything else springs to mind, just ask!

Good luck! xx :)
 
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