jodiew
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Well after weeks of moaning and getting on at my other half he has finally agreed to let me have a dog!!!! YEY!!!
Dogue De Bordeaux here we come!!!!
Dogue De Bordeaux here we come!!!!
woooooo hoooooo!!!
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KJJ
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LOL!!!
Cute and ugly at the same time!!
Cute and ugly at the same time!!
tiggie
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Wow,have always wanted one of those but they are sooo expensive that we had Maisie the bull mastiff instead.
Can't wait to see photos!
Can't wait to see photos!
jodiew
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we have been looking for one for the past week, they are about £800 so not to bad really i would love a bullmastiff though as well, qnything big really
Just hope i can train him to walk out with me and the horse
Have already got a name as well "Tyrone"
Just hope i can train him to walk out with me and the horse
Have already got a name as well "Tyrone"
jj4y
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Please beware how much 'forced' exercise you give to such a heavily built dog, especially when still young, as it can cause a lot of damage to their joints. As a breed, dogue de bordeauxs are susceptible to hip dyslasia, so this should be taken into consideration.
ru-fi-do
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Lucky you! Someone who lives down the road in a big posh house has got 4 roaming round, we call it sh*t alley as the house is beautiful but there is dog mess all round the front of it and they have got a little lean-to to go under for shelter. I love neapolitan mastiffs as well.
jodiew
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Thanks for the advice i have been reading up about them on the net
I have just seena mastiff x Neapolitian mastiff for sale as well, we may be going to to and see them
I have just seena mastiff x Neapolitian mastiff for sale as well, we may be going to to and see them
MiLisCer
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Sorry to be simplistic, but it appears you are getting a breed of dog for the wrong reasons - you are looking for a breed purely on image and "how big is it"
From reading your posts you have little or no experience of dogs, how are you going to control such a large dog? what would you do if it started to dominate you or your partner?
Are there any children in the house? do you have any visit?
I can foresee that very quickly this dog will rule the house, end up causing problems for one or both of you and be in a rescue before its 6 months old.
The reasons for my thoughts and my ability to give such a harsh reply?
I am a ex police dog handler, currently training dogs for a living, a lot of which are problem dogs that folk like you have bought but cannot handle.
Mike
From reading your posts you have little or no experience of dogs, how are you going to control such a large dog? what would you do if it started to dominate you or your partner?
Are there any children in the house? do you have any visit?
I can foresee that very quickly this dog will rule the house, end up causing problems for one or both of you and be in a rescue before its 6 months old.
The reasons for my thoughts and my ability to give such a harsh reply?
I am a ex police dog handler, currently training dogs for a living, a lot of which are problem dogs that folk like you have bought but cannot handle.
Mike
jodiew
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Sorry if i sounded like that but i dont thikn there was any need for the harsh relpy, yes i do have experience with dogs have had them since i have been about 5, had sevral golden cocker spaniels and for the last 6years while i was living at home we have had two German shepards x Dobermans which we got from a rescue home and i have handeled and looked after them just fine thank you.
We have had experience of a big dog before as we took a friends Dogue De Bordeaux under our wing as he wasnt been looked after correctly but due to him not getting on with our other dogs we were unable to keep him, as he was to old and to big to try and re-train him, well to the level that i would have been able to.
I would never get a dog that i would not be able to look after please dont tar everyone with the same brush as not everyone is the same an i would never give up on a dog.
No we dont have any children and it would be very rare that anywould be visiting out house.
Hope that help you out
Jodie
We have had experience of a big dog before as we took a friends Dogue De Bordeaux under our wing as he wasnt been looked after correctly but due to him not getting on with our other dogs we were unable to keep him, as he was to old and to big to try and re-train him, well to the level that i would have been able to.
I would never get a dog that i would not be able to look after please dont tar everyone with the same brush as not everyone is the same an i would never give up on a dog.
No we dont have any children and it would be very rare that anywould be visiting out house.
Hope that help you out
Jodie
MiLisCer
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We have had experience of a big dog before as we took a friends Dogue De Bordeaux under our wing as he wasnt been looked after correctly but due to him not getting on with our other dogs we were unable to keep him, as he was to old and to big to try and re-train him, well to the level that i would have been able to.Jodie
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Sums it all up I am afraid
too big and too old? rubbish you just did not have the ability.
And what has the colour of your cocker got to do with anything? they are not a seperate breed just because they are Golden - some folk just dont take advice.
Ah well it will no doubt make a good pet for someone (else) when you rehome it, just hope it does not get PTS
Mike
We have had experience of a big dog before as we took a friends Dogue De Bordeaux under our wing as he wasnt been looked after correctly but due to him not getting on with our other dogs we were unable to keep him, as he was to old and to big to try and re-train him, well to the level that i would have been able to.Jodie
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Sums it all up I am afraid
And what has the colour of your cocker got to do with anything? they are not a seperate breed just because they are Golden - some folk just dont take advice.
Ah well it will no doubt make a good pet for someone (else) when you rehome it, just hope it does not get PTS
Mike
jodiew
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WHAT THE HELL??? i am sorry but i never said that i was a profesional dog trainer un-like yourself.
So what you are saying is that unless yo are a professional then you should own a dog over a certain size??? i never did say that the colour sis make a difference ither?!!?!
Does the size issue of things just apply to dogs then or should i have not bought my 17h TB X ither? will he get put to sleep??
OH MY GOD someone report me to the RSPCA!!!
So what you are saying is that unless yo are a professional then you should own a dog over a certain size??? i never did say that the colour sis make a difference ither?!!?!
Does the size issue of things just apply to dogs then or should i have not bought my 17h TB X ither? will he get put to sleep??
OH MY GOD someone report me to the RSPCA!!!
MiLisCer
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Raw nerve? close to home?
I have no time for faddy people like you.
Ah well another dog for the rescues.
Mike
I have no time for faddy people like you.
Ah well another dog for the rescues.
Mike
jodiew
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Not a raw nerve at all just making me laugh as you think it make a shits worth os difference to me what you say?! lol
As seen as though you didnt answer my question, should i have my horse or not or is that a different thing and should i ask a professional horse trainer about that as well? lol
As seen as though you didnt answer my question, should i have my horse or not or is that a different thing and should i ask a professional horse trainer about that as well? lol
jj4y
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Just a quick point for anyone to consider when choosing a dog - please research into what the dog was bred to do and decide whether it fits into your lifestyle. For example the dogue de bordeaux was bred as a fighting dog and for hunting boar. They have very strong guarding instincts. To prevent a dog performing behaviours which it was bred to do is IMO detrimental to its welfare and can cause no end of behavioural issues.
MiLisCer
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I have no interest in your horse, and no reason to say you cannot look after/handle it but you have clearly identified the sort of person you are in your reply, by saying what you have, ah well - as I say another dog for the rescues.
Mike
Mike
MiLisCer
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Mind from reading your post in the "new lounge" clearly your new to horses too ! ah well
jodiew
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LOL sorry just because i have always show jumped and not done showing classes does this mean that i am new to horses? cause i am sure well almost certain that i have been riding for oooooo about the last 10 years!
If you have nothing to say apart from pick fault then pleas go post somewhere else as i will take advice but not from someone that is just going to pick fault with everything you say.
Thank you
If you have nothing to say apart from pick fault then pleas go post somewhere else as i will take advice but not from someone that is just going to pick fault with everything you say.
Thank you
MiLisCer
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Not fault but fact, maybe you should also learn to write and spell, that way people might take a bit more notice of your posts - oh and yea 10 years is new to it all.
Why should I go somewhere else, when I can consistently point out your inadequacies.
Oh and I have just read some of your recent posts, makes interesting reading, well something to giggle at anyway.
Mike
Why should I go somewhere else, when I can consistently point out your inadequacies.
Oh and I have just read some of your recent posts, makes interesting reading, well something to giggle at anyway.
Mike
jodiew
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Are you ok? as you really dont seem to have anything else to do apart from pick fault with me?
I dont no you and you dont no me so why the hell are you doing this?
I dont no you and you dont no me so why the hell are you doing this?
Enfys
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Raw nerve? close to home?
I have no time for faddy people like you.
Ah well another dog for the rescues.
Mike
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Oh dear, there will be no hope for me either then
We bought a GSD because of size and guarding abilities.
Oh, Hello and Welcome to HHO by the way. I am sure we can benefit from your expertise and advice, but you've been a bit harsh and judgemental so far.
So what if someone prefers large dogs over smaller ones, or one breed as opposed to another, I am sure that you yourself have a favoured breed or size. I am sure that anyone would do research into their chosen breed etc, and, handing a dog back because it isn't settling or suited to a certain environment isn't necessarily admittance of failure, sometimes it is the most responsible line of action to take.
Raw nerve? close to home?
I have no time for faddy people like you.
Ah well another dog for the rescues.
Mike
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Oh dear, there will be no hope for me either then
Oh, Hello and Welcome to HHO by the way. I am sure we can benefit from your expertise and advice, but you've been a bit harsh and judgemental so far.
So what if someone prefers large dogs over smaller ones, or one breed as opposed to another, I am sure that you yourself have a favoured breed or size. I am sure that anyone would do research into their chosen breed etc, and, handing a dog back because it isn't settling or suited to a certain environment isn't necessarily admittance of failure, sometimes it is the most responsible line of action to take.
ru-fi-do
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Well where do you start! [ QUOTE ]
you are looking for a breed purely on image and "how big is it"
[/ QUOTE ] How do you know wether it is an image thing? Some people purely prefer big dogs to little ones each to their own. I personally think you have been very rude in posts and judgemental of a person you don't even know from Adam!
Many people i know have got 'big' dogs that have also got young familys and have been fine and they don't 'train dogs for a living', but would be quite happy to seek help if they had problems. I think you should be aiming your insults more at the youngergeneration walking the street with Rotti's, staff and american bulldogs ragging them around giving the breeds a bad name and making the dogs a problem.
Oh and by the way i always tell people i have got 'Red&White border collies as they are very rare around here!
I think Jodie was probably looking for helpfull advice put in a helpfull manner.
you are looking for a breed purely on image and "how big is it"
[/ QUOTE ] How do you know wether it is an image thing? Some people purely prefer big dogs to little ones each to their own. I personally think you have been very rude in posts and judgemental of a person you don't even know from Adam!
Many people i know have got 'big' dogs that have also got young familys and have been fine and they don't 'train dogs for a living', but would be quite happy to seek help if they had problems. I think you should be aiming your insults more at the youngergeneration walking the street with Rotti's, staff and american bulldogs ragging them around giving the breeds a bad name and making the dogs a problem.
Oh and by the way i always tell people i have got 'Red&White border collies as they are very rare around here!
I think Jodie was probably looking for helpfull advice put in a helpfull manner.
KJJ
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Sorry to be simplistic, but it appears you are getting a breed of dog for the wrong reasons - you are looking for a breed purely on image and "how big is it"
[/ QUOTE ]Hmmmmm I have recently purchased a GORGEOUS Rhodesian Ridgeback
1) Because they are GORGEOUS
2) I've always loved the RR as a breed
3) Because he would grow to be a big boy!
I have never had a dog before, so should I not have bought him?
I have however researched the breed/read/purchased numerous training/puppy/breed specific books...
He's doing well.. he's now just over 22weeks, weighs 5.8stone and is an angel!! Loves his mum, listens to his mum, has a mad five minutes everynow and then, is excellent with kids/other dogs/horses/sheep/ LMAO - chickens are proving to be extremely tempting right now/people/cars/buggys/prams/bikes!!!
So should I not have him?
I'm prepared for his stubborness, I am in contact with other Ridgeback owners - through this fab forum... so have an 'experienced' ear to turn too!!
What makes you think that Jodie hasn't done all the research I did?
I wasn't prepared to comprimise and buy a retriver/lab just because they are 'allegedly' better 'first' dogs/easier to train/handle etc...
So I think you a little unfair to assume that she wasn't 'ready' for a bigdog.
Whilst I say all this I do understand that some big dogs are in the wrong hands and can end up in rescue homes, purely because people can't handle them/don't train them properly from the start and allow them to rule the roost.
This forum is here for people to ask help/advice... you may well have just sent Jodie on her way to owning a BDBordeux without this forum to turn to because of harsh assumptions that you have made!!
I'm sure she will be back and will click "Ignore User" button on yourself... however try and be nice and offer 'sensitive' advice...!!
Questions like...
"Hi Jodie,
Have you had a dog before?
Have yo had a BIG dog before?
Are you prepared for territorial behaviour?
Are you prepared to be BOSS/Pack leader?
Do you plan on taking him training/seeking professional traning advice?
etc etc"
Welcome to the forum!!
Sorry to be simplistic, but it appears you are getting a breed of dog for the wrong reasons - you are looking for a breed purely on image and "how big is it"
[/ QUOTE ]Hmmmmm I have recently purchased a GORGEOUS Rhodesian Ridgeback
1) Because they are GORGEOUS
2) I've always loved the RR as a breed
3) Because he would grow to be a big boy!
I have never had a dog before, so should I not have bought him?
I have however researched the breed/read/purchased numerous training/puppy/breed specific books...
He's doing well.. he's now just over 22weeks, weighs 5.8stone and is an angel!! Loves his mum, listens to his mum, has a mad five minutes everynow and then, is excellent with kids/other dogs/horses/sheep/ LMAO - chickens are proving to be extremely tempting right now/people/cars/buggys/prams/bikes!!!
So should I not have him?
I'm prepared for his stubborness, I am in contact with other Ridgeback owners - through this fab forum... so have an 'experienced' ear to turn too!!
What makes you think that Jodie hasn't done all the research I did?
I wasn't prepared to comprimise and buy a retriver/lab just because they are 'allegedly' better 'first' dogs/easier to train/handle etc...
So I think you a little unfair to assume that she wasn't 'ready' for a bigdog.
Whilst I say all this I do understand that some big dogs are in the wrong hands and can end up in rescue homes, purely because people can't handle them/don't train them properly from the start and allow them to rule the roost.
This forum is here for people to ask help/advice... you may well have just sent Jodie on her way to owning a BDBordeux without this forum to turn to because of harsh assumptions that you have made!!
I'm sure she will be back and will click "Ignore User" button on yourself... however try and be nice and offer 'sensitive' advice...!!
Questions like...
"Hi Jodie,
Have you had a dog before?
Have yo had a BIG dog before?
Are you prepared for territorial behaviour?
Are you prepared to be BOSS/Pack leader?
Do you plan on taking him training/seeking professional traning advice?
etc etc"
Welcome to the forum!!
Selkie
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Well what a first impression some people make to the site. Over the years I have been bitten by a lab (because it had a bone in its box and my ex was the only who could stroke him when he had a bone and didnt realise when he introduced us) I was bitten on the face as a child when I followed a wire hair fox terrier to where he burried his bone. I have been afraid to move out of a chair when visiting friends who left me in the same room as their border collie. I have had my ankles nipped by small yapping dogs usually yorkshire terriers and corgies, and dont like most jack russels. But have had dogs all my life and never had any trouble with them. I would never say to someone that the dog is too big or small. If a dog is handled properly, given firm ground rules, socialised, treated well then they will give many happy years of friendship and fun.
Tia
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You are making perfectly valid points here; but you can't assume that everyone who has a certain type or size of dog isn't suitable to have them. It might have been of more use to suggest to the other poster what to be aware of with these types of dogs.
milor
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Ok - this has got a bit heated and perhaps some points were made a bit harshly but I'm afraid that they have been very valid points non the less. DDB are a large guarding breed -that needs careful handling. they have become very fashionable due to the Pit Bull ban and many are crossed with other bull breeds and there are many poorly bred litters out there - please be VERY careful who you buy from - and never contemplate buying a cross ( such as the Mastiff X you mentioned )- I have known this breed become very difficult at around 12 -18 months and this a lot of dog if it becomes aggressive !
Ask yourself why you want such a large guarding breed and if you are truly prepared for the difficulties you may face.
Ask yourself why you want such a large guarding breed and if you are truly prepared for the difficulties you may face.
CAYLA
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Also look up GASTRIC TORTION/BLOAT these breeds are more commonly suseptible to this condition...... make sure you take insurance out, cos this is a very expensive procedure to treat!!!!
