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Ok, here's the thing, when I get Murphy back Id desperately like to start getting his carriage a bit better. His schooling just isnt there. Now I am NOT the best rider, Ive never had a lesson in my life and worry that I dont know what Im doing enough to be of any help to the big man what-so-ever.

His head is just out there, on a lolly-pop stick. I know from reading various posts here that he needs to be working back-to -front but how to achieve this I dont know.

So here's a pic (sorry no hat - it was in my thick days) and excuse the scrawny horse (middle of winter in old crap field)
Bearing in mind he has side-reins on here usually he's more giraffe like...

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Not really tips as such, but I think if you haven't had a lesson then it is much better to have lessons and have someone talking you through it on the ground than using tips from the internet.

In that photo it looks to me like he is tracking up and using his back okay, in which case it's not as bad a problem as you think.
 
Thanks for the reply
So you think it would definitely be better for me to do the schooling (with help) rather than someone who knows what they are doing?
I just worry I'll confuse him lol
 
He doesn't look too bad at all to me - how old is he?

I would definitely get lessons on him, it's amazing what a difference someone on the ground watching can make.

It's difficult to descibe what you need to be doing to improve him, but first of all he needs to be going forward, and into the bridle. Then you can think about him going less hollow.

Few ideas for you:

Keep your rein contact consistent, use lots of transistions when you're schooling to get him sitting back on his hocks.

Little alternate squeezes down each rein, like you're wringing out a sponge, will keep him listening to you.

Keep returning to halt and put your legs on, keeping the rein contact, and asking him to submit.

You'll find that he'll go heavier in the rein contact before he lightens - it's all part of his learning curve, and he'll find it hard to begin with, so keep the sessions short.

Good luck!
 
second that. his back end looks good.imo he just needs a bit more work to build the musles then his head carriage should come last .dont forget to do both sides even when he prefers the other.
 
i ride a horse at the moment and although i not the best rider in the world (i have been riding for a while just on and off) i have found that transitions on a circle have defiantly helped. hes not looking quite so tense now, but it will take time so you have to be patient! also lots of changes of rein. (serpentines etc) to get him listening to you. he needs to work from behind, you're right in saying that, so instead of holding his head in you need to get him working forward into an elastic contact, if you can get him working under saddle like he is on the lunge than you're half way there.

i know its difficult because ive been on here asking for advice, and ive taken it all in and it does work, it just takes time. im also getting private lessons as much as i can afford so an instructor can see what im doing and give me homework to do.

good luck keep us posted!

p.s he might find all this work quite hard so take it easy! xxx
 
Some lessons with an experienced instructor to pinpoint what you both need will help no end!
He looks nice and active and is tracking up so its really just softening through his back- then he will relax his neck and maintain an outline. Correct work with a pessoa and lots of lessons are your best bet.
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Thanks guys, its encouraging to hear you dont think he's so bad. I think he needs a bit more bum etc. I will look into the pessoa as he seems to enjoy lunging - and I will start looking for a good instructor too . x
 
He looks to have a super active back end, however he doesnt have enough balance so is using his neck to help.

You need some lessons with a good instructer - btw by good I mean not only qualified but someone you trust and have faith in.
 
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Little alternate squeezes down each rein, like you're wringing out a sponge, will keep him listening to you.

I second that. By doing this it encourages my gelding to accept the contact and come down into an outline. It used to take about 30mins of doing it before he would give in but now he outlines much faster when asked
 
I would have lessons as you have never had one before - then you can both improve together.

Doesn't look like he doing too much wrong
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I do think you should do the schooling yourself, its your horse and he should work for you. If possible have some lessons as they can help immensely, even if it just gives you ideas of something to work on and some direction for your schooling. With my boy I try to do lots of circles and transitions and the alternate squeazes down each rein, and with perseverence he is starting to get the idea. Good luck
 
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Thanks guys, its encouraging to hear you dont think he's so bad. I think he needs a bit more bum etc. I will look into the pessoa as he seems to enjoy lunging - and I will start looking for a good instructor too . x

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