Wormer Programme Help

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:oWondered if anyone could help!

Yard owner usually worms the entire yard on a programme. Found out yesterday that the yard havent wormed in a while and that they would now be expecting money up front for wormer as some liveries (although not I) havent been paying their livery on time. Fair enough I thought but Im not prepared to leave my horses health in the hands of others, it might be a while before he collects the money from others and i want to get my boy wormed asap and do my own programme. He went away to a trainer in September and was wormed on arrival but i was wondering if i wanted to start doing my own programme what should i be using and when?

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How old is he? Do you poo-pick his field and how often? Does he share grazing? What is the stocking density on the field? What was he last wormed with and when exactly? Are you prepared to do worm egg counts instead of routine worming?
 
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9 year old warmblood, in a 2 acre field with a youngster... i do poo pick but hasnt been done in a while. I was doing it all by myself as other livery doesnt do it at all so i drew the line at having done all the ragging on my own all summer.

I had him wormed on the 16th September, he was wormed by the trainer he went to, its policy that when the horse sets foot on her property she worms, i dont know which one she used. I therefore wanted to start from scratch so to speak so wanted to know which one i should use first? I have all his jab dates, his teeth, feet etc. Worming was always done by the yard but like i said below the yard manager has had a bit of a strop because some of my fellow liveries are so bad at paying on time for their rent. I agree totally that he shouldnt therefore be expected to go and buy wormer up front for 20+ horses at 10-15 a pop and then have to chase for that cash. Im not happy that he didnt warn us that it wasnt being done.

I would worm count, i have the vet out to do his jabs in Jan but I dont particularly want to wait much longer. Could i send them a little poo parcel in the post? :)

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You have a good sized amount of grazing so their is a reduction in risk of picking up lots of larvae. Having a youngster (to me that is less than 2 years old??) in the field increases the risk (youngsters put out more eggs until they develop a good immunity). Poo-picking decreases the risk enormously (2 - 3 times a week in the summer, once a week in the winter).

I wouldn't bother doing a worm egg count at this time of the year - normally advise June/July and Sept/October and maybe April if you aren't poo-picking.

It would be really useful if you found out what he was wormed with. It is a really good idea to keep a record of all wormings (date/what) and if he is not signed off in section 9 of the passport (i.e. he is a food animal) you are legally obliged to keep a record of medicine usage.

I normally would advise Equest Pramox or Equimax/Eqvalan Duo at this time of year (if tapeworm was not treated for in autumn) and depending on what his september treatment was. Once the winter worming do a wec as above before worming again and depending on the count (I say 400 eggs per gram and above in an adult horse, some people use a 200 epg threshold - there is no evidence to say what is the threshold in horses but it's about that in lambs) decide with your vet/SQP what to worm with.

Find out from your vet if you are in a high risk area for tapeworm (acid soils) and maybe go for 2X a year worming for tapeworm if you are or get a blood test done for tapeworm which will show the risk of a high burden. We only worm once a year for tapeworm as we are in a low risk area.

Hope that all made sense
 
I wormed for tapeworm and all nasties using Eqvalan Duo this year in Spring and Autumn. I will be doing Equest come January for encysted redworm and then worm count through summer. I poo pick all year round.
 
Hi Izzwizz, what do your worm egg counts come back as? My opinion is that as you poo-pick all year round you are worming too much (unless you have one of theose horses that always has a high wec no matter what you do to manage it).
 
If you PM my your email address, Ive got an email from my vet giving two options: Group and individual worming programmes – can send it onto you if you’d like it? x
 
CMMB said:
Hi Izzwizz, what do your worm egg counts come back as? My opinion is that as you poo-pick all year round you are worming too much (unless you have one of theose horses that always has a high wec no matter what you do to manage it).
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Worm counts came back at 250 epg and 350 epg, however, have only been at the present place not quite a year yet and there were 5 horses on it previously who may not have been wormed atall and definitely didnt poo pick. Ran my programme by my Vet and its fine but may well change next year when its been "all mine" if you get my meaning..
 
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