Worming advice, please

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For the last three years I have wormed with Equest, given every 13 weeks. This suits me as he is a bu**er to worm.

I think maybe I should change so the worms don't become immune to Equest.

I have no idea about worming (the scientific bit leaves me cold). He is in a paddock which is poo picked every day.

I have considered a worm count but as this only does certain worms I'm not sure about it.

Any advice I will be grateful for.

Thanks in anticipation

Jane
 
i do worm counts with mine and if they come back as zero then worm for tape worm twice a year with Equest paramox. Seems to work well for mine as i havent had a positive worm count for ages :D
 
I personally use a herbal wormer and worm counts. I am not happy to give my horse the wormer chemicals unnecessarily. I think you should check but I am sure you need to change your wormer regularly - I mean the base product like an ivermectin wormer to another.
A worm count is really the only way of checking how effective your worming routine is except for tape worm of course.
My vets advocate this 'intelligent worming' where you pay for a year's programme and you have a worm count done and you are advised which wormer if any to administer. If you use the same brand all the time then a reistence can be built up and certain stages/groups of worms missed. Hope this helps
 
as you poo pick daily you could do worm counts (worm if eggs found using Eraquell, Vectin, Noromectin, Pyratape P, Strongid P, Equimax, Duo, Equest, Equest Pramox, Panacur or Telmin. the company can usually give you advice)

if you have no eggs you will still need to give 3 wormers/yr:
tape spring and autumn (Pyratape P, Strongid P, Equimax, Duo, Equest Pramox or Equitape)
and one in january for bots and encysted red worms (equest or equest paramox)
 
Hello! This is my first ever post so I hope it helps.

Equest contains the active ingredient moxidectin which has persistency against some worms, resulting in it being effective against encysted redworms. In my opinion, this is why it is a good idea to save using Equest until the winter when encysted redworms can become a problem.

The fact that you are picking up your horse’s poo from his field obviously greatly reduces his risk from worms.

I find it a really good idea to formulate a worming calendar:

Spring - tapeworm and roundworms can be a problem (you could use a combination wormer that is effective against both tapeworm and roundworms, your vet or your local SQP will advise you on the appropriate product)

Summer - If you have wormed for Tapeworm in spring, Faecal Egg Counts could be used frequently throughout the summer to detect for roundworms.

Autumn - Again you should be aware of Tapeworm in Autumn (a combination wormer could be used)

Winter - Should worm against Encysted Redworms and Bots.

Alternatively, in Autumn/Winter a combination wormer, which is effective against Encysted Redworms, Roundworm species, Tapeworm Species and Bots could be used. Because you are using a combination wormer that is effective against all these parasites you should only have to worm once during this period.

If you have been using Equest which contains the active ingredient moxidectin, it is important to note that moxidectin is in the same family as the chemical ivermectin. True rotation involves using wormers from different chemical families. The active ingredient Pyrantel is in a different chemical family to moxidectin and ivermectin so a wormer containing Pyrantel may be an option when you next worm. Pyrantel is effective against most roundworms and when given at double dosage can be effective against certain species of Tapeworm.

If your horse is a pain to worm some wormers are now available in tablet form and in my experience these are much easier to administer and make the process of worming much less stressful.

I'm sorry this is so long but I hope it helps! :)
 
Do a google search for Intelligent Worming, they are FAB, You pay a £19 admin charge and then they draw you up a professional worming programme it cost about £90 for the whole year, including wormers & dung samples or you can pay monthly. REALLY PLEASED with my results with them. :-) S x
 
Borderreiver said:
If he's horrible to worm then worm counts are your obvious way forward. Struggle only once or twice a year instead of every few months.

No one should be worming every 13 weeks with that product these days. Yes it's easy but as it's still the most effective treatment for real worm cases and for encysted redworm we need to keep it specially for then. Over use will eventually make it ineffective. Then we are really stuck.

The 'science' isn't hard and anyway a company like mine (Westgate labs) will do it all for you so you don't even have to think. Lots of info on the website or get in touch.
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I have used Westgate for a couple of years now, very impressed and i love the email reminders :)
 
Our yard does a full worm count every couple of months via Westgate. All we do is collect a poo sample and they send it off and we get a list back showing results. 9/10 horses never need worming for anything other than tapeworm which isn't shown.
This is a great system for me as my TB is particularly sensitive and the likes of Equest and Pramox cause him to colic.
I use Equitape usually for tapeworm.
 
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