Worming issues!

[BlackISH]

Has anyone ever used EQuest to treat encysted red worm? I’m just wondering if anyone has used it and still had results come back that their horse has still got it when tested. Also, I cannot seem to find anywhere that says they treat large red worm - is there a difference between small and large?

He was tested for tapeworm (saliva test) around about during June/July last year and came back negative. Does anyone know how reliable this test is or if their horse got a negative result but did actually have tapeworm?

Can I ask what your horse‘s symptoms were if they have experienced a worm burden, what types of worm caused it and how you treated it?


Despite these results I am convinced my horse has some kind of worm burden.I have just ordered a test for pinworm too.

Any worming recommendations or advice appreciated

 

[ester]

Most people will use equest for encysteds, which test is telling you that you still have encysteds?

As for the saliva test I know that not all vets rate it, the validation data is available it’s just been a while since I looked at it.

 

[MissTyc]

The Saliva test (Equisal) is generally considered to be reliable, but you need to do it every 6 months for two years, then annually if your horse is always low. The validation data is solid.

The blood test for encysted tapeworm is valid but it is hard to interpret the data (even with the help of the director of the lab that created it). They are working on a saliva test but this is not commercially available yet. The blood test will show a positive result for encysted redworm up to 4 months post Moxidectin treatment so can be used for longer term tracking of Moxidectin efficiency.

There are increasing documented cases of rapid return of redworm post-worming. All our wormers are losing efficacy as they are still mis-used, over-used (or worse, under-dosed!). It is also sometimes possible for horses to spit out wormer, etc ... Not sure of your exact situation but hopefully the above helps a bit!

 

[BlackISH]

Most people will use equest for encysteds, which test is telling you that you still have encysteds?

As for the saliva test I know that not all vets rate it, the validation data is available it’s just been a while since I looked at it.

Hi! I haven’t had him tested after giving him the wormer yet. It would be a poo sample again - I was just wondering if anyone had experienced any resistance or drop in efficacy with workers that are supposed to kill redworm x

 

[BlackISH]

The Saliva test (Equisal) is generally considered to be reliable, but you need to do it every 6 months for two years, then annually if your horse is always low. The validation data is solid.

The blood test for encysted tapeworm is valid but it is hard to interpret the data (even with the help of the director of the lab that created it). They are working on a saliva test but this is not commercially available yet. The blood test will show a positive result for encysted redworm up to 4 months post Moxidectin treatment so can be used for longer term tracking of Moxidectin efficiency.

There are increasing documented cases of rapid return of redworm post-worming. All our wormers are losing efficacy as they are still mis-used, over-used (or worse, under-dosed!). It is also sometimes possible for horses to spit out wormer, etc ... Not sure of your exact situation but hopefully the above helps a bit!

Hi! Thanks this does help!

I’m 90% sure he has a worm burden - he’s got a distended stomach and abdomen. We did initially consider Cushings but he’s too young to get it really and he doesn’t have any other symptoms of it. His condition changed quite quickly - he’s on a track livery and the hay is very low in sugar so it appears that he has got a protein defiency. I’ve been supplementing him with really high quality protein feed and seen no improvement so now I’m thinking that perhaps worms are preventing him from absorbing it x

 

[KrujaaLass]

Hi! I haven’t had him tested after giving him the wormer yet. It would be a poo sample again - I was just wondering if anyone had experienced any resistance or drop in efficacy with workers that are supposed to kill redworm x

Hi! Thanks this does help!

I’m 90% sure he has a worm burden - he’s got a distended stomach and abdomen. We did initially consider Cushings but he’s too young to get it really and he doesn’t have any other symptoms of it. His condition changed quite quickly - he’s on a track livery and the hay is very low in sugar so it appears that he has got a protein defiency. I’ve been supplementing him with really high quality protein feed and seen no improvement so now I’m thinking that perhaps worms are preventing him from absorbing it x

The poo sample won’t show encysted red worm, but blood test will.

 

[KrujaaLass]

My pony, ten, lost condition then has bad diahrea. She has tested positive for encysted redworm but nill for larger ones