Worries for loan horse being returned to owner

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Lea1985

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Im absolutely devestated. My loan horses owner came to visit on Sunday. It turns out she came to tell me she wants him back. She is well within the rights of our contract as she has given me a months notice.

Im heartbroken but most importantly im concorned what she is wanting to do with him will be too much.

He is a 24 year old clydie, he has breathing problems and a rotated pelvis that I have speant the last 3 years I have had him working on it. Its nearly level now :( he came to me with awful sweet itch that I know have under control. On the chiros orders he is only ridden once every other day then doesnt his pelvis work in hand the other days. He was a nightmare to mount now his is and angel.

His owner wants to take him to equine collage where I know he will have a massive work load. I just so worried about him.

Not sure why Ive posted this just upset. I had him on loan after loosing my horse of 13 years to a ruptured stomach. He has been my rock im devestated. Ive begged her to let me buy him and offered silly money but she says no
 
Im guessing as shes refused money there is something you've done or said that has made her want him back.

Have you gone on to her about how great his life is now you have fixed all her mistakes etc
 
No, she says It because she needs him for collage. Her course enables you to take your own horse. Her mum says its because she has moved back home due to relationships issues and that she now has time for him :( When I was sobbing they said we couldnt have asked for a better home for him
 
Lea1985 said:
Im absolutely devestated. My loan horses owner came to visit on Sunday. It turns out she came to tell me she wants him back. She is well within the rights of our contract as she has given me a months notice.

Im heartbroken but most importantly im concorned what she is wanting to do with him will be too much.

He is a 24 year old clydie, he has breathing problems and a rotated pelvis that I have speant the last 3 years I have had him working on it. Its nearly level now :( he came to me with awful sweet itch that I know have under control. On the chiros orders he is only ridden once every other day then doesnt his pelvis work in hand the other days. He was a nightmare to mount now his is and angel.

His owner wants to take him to equine collage where I know he will have a massive work load. I just so worried about him.

Not sure why Ive posted this just upset. I had him on loan after loosing my horse of 13 years to a ruptured stomach. He has been my rock im devestated. Ive begged her to let me buy him and offered silly money but she says no
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A little odd, why would she want to take a 24yr old to equine college?? for his age, size and from what you said about his pelvis this would be way too much for him........ seems odd that she wont accept the money you offered considering she may not get an opportunity like that again. How old is she if you dont mind me asking and what is she expecting to do on him?
 
Lea1985 said:
No, she says It because she needs him for collage. Her course enables you to take your own horse. Her mum says its because she has moved back home due to relationships issues and that she now has time for him :( When I was sobbing they said we couldnt have asked for a better home for him
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it also works out quite expensive to take them to college unless you let them be used by other people on like a working livery basis which would be unfair on him surely. She would be better off using the horses they have at college already.
 
Really sorry for you, not a nice situation but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything you can do as she is the rightful owner, you have offered to buy him but to no avail. Just out of interest how much did you offer to buy him for? I think everything is for sale at the right price and maybe she is just being greedy. If she is young, you say just about to go off to equine college could you maybe have a word with her parents? Do they know you have made an offer to buy?

If nothing else I guess the best you can do is make her fully aware of his health issues, especially given his age and advise her not to push him. If she really cares she'll at least listen to that!
 
Are you worried that the equine college will impose a harsh workload on him? To get a heavy breed to 24 without major arthritis is an achievement and I'm sure a reputable institution would take his age and type into consideration. Most neds like that would down to just lightish hacking by now. They hardly want to be seen to "break" someone else's horse - think of the bad publicity that could earn them.

If it is the owner's decision to work him hard, then she needs to go to equine college and learn something about horses. But there is little you can do about it. To be honest, I wouldn't have got involved with the animal in the first place. There are plenty of good healthy horses that need a loaner. Why spend so much time and money on something that isn't even yours?
 
I would be tempted to go round with say £2000 in five pound notes (makes it look more of a stash) to the girl and parents and offer to help her look for another more suitable for collage life.
 
Shes now 20. I had him on loan from her when she was 17 and had just had a baby. She says if she doesnt take him collage then she has to pay an extra £700 for the course. The reason I cannot buy him according to her is because her grandad brought him her before he died. I am getting a report from his chiro and my vet to say then dont recommend an increased work load. I feel physically sick with worry for him. I said name your price ill by him, any amount you want Ill get it. She just said no...
 
There is a horse on here that someone is desperate to find a loan home for i will post the link for you to have a look at because the owner cannot afford to keep the horse and was considering having it PTS.
 
fatpiggy said:
To be honest, I wouldn't have got involved with the animal in the first place. There are plenty of good healthy horses that need a loaner. Why spend so much time and money on something that isn't even yours?
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I had just lost my lovely old boy I just went to view him and he was the only horse I had been to see that I felt a connection with. I view lots and he just felt right.
 
Horrible situation but I think that you need to sit tight and see what happens. Give her the note from the vets and chiro, explain your concerns about the workload and make sure she knows you'll have him back (but give the offer a 3 month expiry date or something so you're not left dangling and she doesn't have you as an easy fall-back option when she's run him into the ground after 6 months).

Can you buy her another horse to take to college that you loan to her in exchange for her letting you keep your chap? Though that's probably a bad idea if she has so little regard for her own horse's wellbeing.
 
Originally Posted by vroutledge
There is a horse on here that someone is desperate to find a loan home for i will post the link for you to have a look at because the owner cannot afford to keep the horse and was considering having it PTS.


I'll take it, thats simply cruel to have a healthy horse PTS coz you can't afford it, I have the room for more.
 
AshTay - Thank you for the above, and I think your right. If I knew she wanted him back just because she did Id have to just cope. But its the worry I have about him being over worked. When she patted him on his pelvis area she said 'oh it must be getting better because he used to flinch when I put pressure here'
 
Upskyc said:
Originally Posted by vroutledge
There is a horse on here that someone is desperate to find a loan home for i will post the link for you to have a look at because the owner cannot afford to keep the horse and was considering having it PTS.


I'll take it, thats simply cruel to have a healthy horse PTS coz you can't afford it, I have the room for more.
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I think you should read the other thread in full (!) before you pass judgement on it. It's not as black and white as it sounds (assuming I'm thinking of the same thread).
 
fatpiggy said:
To be honest, I wouldn't have got involved with the animal in the first place. There are plenty of good healthy horses that need a loaner. Why spend so much time and money on something that isn't even yours?
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It's very hard when you become attached.. I had just lost my old 26 year old loan horse & took my boy on full loan.. it was soon clear that something wasn't right.. he needed an op, so the owner was pushed into a corner..she either signed him over or took back a very lame animal.. so i feel your pain because if she had have said she'd have taken him back I'd have been in a right state & worried what would have happened to him!:(
 
This girl sounds mental. You say name your price for a 24 yr old horse and she says no!? I do hope that if she takes it to college and then breaks him that she doesn't then try and blackmail you into having him back or buying him. Also and I know it's hard but if she does end up changing her mind please don't pay an absolutely silly price for this horse, I know you've done your best by him but it isn't worth getting into loads of debt
 
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=454431




Its not as straight forward as it sounds, the horse is said to be a little quirky and the owner has wasted a lot of time trying to find the perfect home but she literally cannot afford to keep him a minute longer and rather than just anyone having him/her and the horse ending up in a bad home or being beaten i think her only other alternative was for the horse to be PTS
 
I think you need to reason with the girl.
Tell her that surely it would be better for you to buy the horse for the amount of the extra tuition fees. As I am presuming ontop of that she will need to pay for livery etc. Tell her it will be cheaper and with having a young child will she have the time (and money) for a horse. If you tell her she is free to visit when she wants, as she already probibily does then why not?
Generally if you know how to put things to people you can make them see sense :)
 
Echo Stormside, sounds a bit odd to me that she has to pay an extra £700 tuition fees if she didn't take him, never heard of that before. I took a pony to college years ago and other mates have, we ve all had to pay some form of livery, never the other way round. :(
 
I feel for you, the horse will not be accepted for a college course, they are not daft, I can't see how she is saving £700, maybe she could take a youngster on loan from someone else, a bit convoluted, but I don't think you should offer her any money, she sounds a bit unhinged, or she is trying to extract money from you to pay for her college course.
 
Could you ask your vet to write a letter saying whats wrong with him and what work hes up too, then you can give the owner a copy, if she still insists on taking him to collage with her i would send a copy of the letter to the collage. Surely it wold not look good on the collage to use a horse of that age whos not up to the work?
 
Hebe said:
Echo Stormside, sounds a bit odd to me that she has to pay an extra £700 tuition fees if she didn't take him, never heard of that before. I took a pony to college years ago and other mates have, we ve all had to pay some form of livery, never the other way round. :(
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Its a load of crap isn't it?!? its usually more to take your horse not more not to take your horse. She probably doesnt want to be the one without her own horse at college, but then she needs to think that her horse wont be able to do the things that other people at her college horses will.....im sure none of them are taking a heavy weight 24 yr old.
 
I'd be interested to know which equine college was accepting a 24yo heavy horse onto a working livery course. Sorry but when I applied to take mine, they were very specific about what type was acceptable to them.

Pelvis issue aside, I doubt this is the case - someone is telling porkies!
 
vroutledge said:
Its a load of crap isn't it?!? its usually more to take your horse not more not to take your horse. She probably doesnt want to be the one without her own horse at college, but then she needs to think that her horse wont be able to do the things that other people at her college horses will.....im sure none of them are taking a heavy weight 24 yr old.
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I know :( If she was taking him back because she now was able to look after him Id cope. But I just cant handle this....she hasnt been in contact since Sunday. When she left I was inconsolable (cant spell) I due to have a youngster in one months time. Now Im worried I wont be in the right frame of mind for him
 
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