would anyone else be mad?

[swintondesire]

Left my pony into day as he had ruined his rug that I had to go out to get a new one. When I arrived back at the yard I could not believe my eyes. The yard was upside down with boxes in front of my stable and the tractor down the middle (switched on) outside my stable the yard owner was putting hay in the barn (never goes through stables always go outside way but got stuck the other day.).. I walk down to see my horse and his nostrils where blowing his ears going and he was very jumpy and on edge. Bare in mind he is only 18months. I moved the boxes to get my horse out foaming that the yo didn't have the commonsense to put him in arena for half an hour while he was in there with the tractor. Anyway all I got was a lot of abuse saying he's not frightened, there's nothing wrong can I just say I know my horse and if there was nothing wrong he wouldn't have jumped at me touching him and would have been eating hay. I just couldn't believe That someone would not have the sense to take the horse out he was fretting in a stable with no where to go. I think I was more annoyed at what could have happened and it could have be avoided by something so easy. Well I think this is final straw with this has given me the extra push I need to leave I recently posted not long ago about moving yards and this is the yo who would make u do jobs and shout at you for washing wellies.

 

[piebaldsparkle]

Can't say either I or my horse would be bothered.

 

[Honey08]

TBH, no I wouldn't be that bothered. We have straw delivered on a big tipper truck that tips up right in front of the horse's stables, and a tractor brings haylage down the yard. The first time they see it they spook a bit and go to the back of the stable like that, then they realise that nothing happens and they deal with it. Then they become horses that don't panic etc when unusual things happen. You'd have been better just soothing him and talking to him, so he understands that you can be trusted to help him in scary situations...

YO was out of order if they were rude, but it depends how you went up to them too - sounds like there are a lot of other issues and you are fed up in general, so it was probably more like the last straw.

 

[*hic*]

Up to you if you want to change yards but from the YO's point of view you had obviously left him in for a reason, YO had to get the jobs done, why move him, he's got to get used to stuff being moved about and tractors on the yard, on the road etc at sometime and if all he was doing was blowing a bit at the tractor he doesn't exactly sound very upset!

 

[Elsiecat]

I wouldn't have been bothered tbh!

 

[Spyda]

I have to admit that the large farm tractor brings huge bales of hay/straw into our American style barn once a week and my mare's stable happens to be right at the end where the tractors pulls in, stops and reaches up and forward with its spikes to install the big bales onto a platform opposite my mare's stable. She was about 13 months when we first moved there and sure, the first couple of times she was anxious whilst the job was in progress but now (she's 5) she just stands calmly and watches with interest as the huge machinery grinds and whines within 4 foot of her. As long as the horse was not panicing and throwing itself about (but alert and watchful is okay) I'd not be fuming. It's educational for horses to be exposed to safe 'out of the ordinary' experiences.

 

[goatbabies]

I wouldn't be bothered... I'd much rather my horses see big scary things so they get used to them, especially at 18 months!

Think you're over reacting just a tad...

 

[Littlelegs]

I wouldn't have been bothered either. Even if horse isn't used to tractors from their own stable where they feel safe is a pretty good place to meet one for the first time. We're on a farm so tractors coming past is a regular occurrence. I leave mine tied up outside while tractor comes past, don't even bother to untie them. New horses are taken back in the barn to look through the door at them, they soon accept them. And from your yo's pov, apart from the fact yours might have been in for a reason, I wouldn't want to be responsible if the horse hurt itself if it continued stressing in the arena.

 

[Slightlyconfused]

Mine are used to stuff like that....and if they weren't then its the perfect oopertunity to get then used to it.

 

[swintondesire]

I don't think I'm over reaching when he was shouting saying we all knew he was going to be doing it and we did nothe then said*we said we would help and as far as I know I never new anything about it And he has trashed are stuff like rugs by driving over them are yard is a American barn but very small size one. It's probley because so much down there is becoming a joke and maybe it's the whole lot building up that I'm becoming over the top. He's never really had to come face to face with the tractor it's gone on around outside and in field but never on his doorstep. And I have seen yo knock drainage trees gates down with his tractor not being able to see so I do not trust him on the barn with pliers in his tractor with my horse in. I know if the tables where turned I'd be called a thick idiot who knows nothing. I have been called this before. I think now it's not too bad but you have have thought he could have rang or text just saying what he was doing beforehand at least.

 

[starryeyed]

Up to you if you want to change yards but from the YO's point of view you had obviously left him in for a reason, YO had to get the jobs done, why move him, he's got to get used to stuff being moved about and tractors on the yard, on the road etc at sometime and if all he was doing was blowing a bit at the tractor he doesn't exactly sound very upset!

This is how I see it - the YO probably didn't want to move your horse as he'd obviously been left in for a reason. As long as he wasn't throwing himeslf around in a wild panic then I wouldn't have a problem with it - as others have said, it's a good age for him to get used to things like this.

 

[*hic*]

I think I have the gist of your post . . .

He says he told you it would be happening, and in any case it must be obvious to you that hay for YOUR horses has to be put in the barn, if he can't go round the outside then he has to go through. I'm sure you'd be up in arms if your horse was being fed weather-spoiled hay.

If you leave stuff like rugs on the floor then they will get stood on or, as this time, driven on. In any case it's not safe to leave stuff lying around in the aisles of American barns.

I hope you can find somewhere more suited to you.

 

[piebaldsparkle]

Well clearly he thought you knew already.

Chill no one got hurt and in the long run it may have done you a favor and tractor proofed your pony.

You obviously aren't happy there, so move.

 

[Devonshire dumpling]

My husband chain harrowed the paddock with my youngster in, my youngster was a spooky galloping mess.... then he topped it with my youngster in and he was interested, and sniffing the equipment, it was brilliant education that actually tractors are noisy and scary, but they don't hurt me. I would be worried if I was stood watching my youngster in the stable and if he reacted in way that was going to harm himself, ie jumping over the door I would removed him, but being up tight and jumpy, I wouldn't care about, its fantastic education XX

 

[YorksG]

So let me see if I have got this right, this has gone from the youngster being a bit nervous of the tractor, to the YO driving over rugs (which were presumably left in the way) to not being safe with the bale on the tractor, so fear from owner of YO driving, to the YO likely to be rude, because he has been before. This sounds to me much more that you have an issue with the YO than that your horse was bothered about the tractor TBH. I would think that a parting of the ways would be best for all concerned and I doubt your YO will be too sorry to see you leave.

 

[swintondesire]

I'm am moving. Nothing's lieing rug is left over stable door but middle so small they had been knocked off. There only four livery down there and he knows me and my horse very well and knew It wouldn't have been a bad reason that he could just go out for five
Mins .... and don't get me started about spoiled hay my horse eats. As the hay and straw has been sitting outside since Thursday in the horrible rain and on top of mud with his horses eating away at it. And I'm still expected to pay for it! Honestly if I put the pic of our hay barn on I wouldn't no which to prefer outside or in there as it smells like a tolite dug up.

 

[swintondesire]

I will share my previous thread about moving yard when I told people what the yard was like and it was ment to come across as my horse being scared but the lack of think through a 85year old man who is ment to have own horses all his life and know my horse from day one as much as me. And he knows how to use a Mobileft I have said many time even when he pinch my stuff ring me and I will probley say yes.

 

[FfionWinnie]

No I would have left my horse there til it realised not to be so stupid and if the horse was still carrying on I'd have asked the yo if we could do it regularly to get him used to it because I'd be shocked that an 18 month old horse was so terrified of a mere tractor and I'd want to sort it as soon as possible.

 

[quirky]

I wouldn't be bothered.
I'd rather she meet a tractor close up in the stable than on a single track road.

I never avoid new or potentially scary things, don't see the point in making an issue of it

 

[sarahann1]

No I wouldn't be, it's a regular occurrence at my yard. The horses just get on with it.

Take it as a learning curve for the wee one

 

[swintondesire]

it is a learning curve but it is to be done right not ram a tractor down the middle after throwing everyones boxes around scrapping mud up the walls of stables.. and tbh if my horse was bashing his head of the wall or stuck in the bars or even smoking a cigar the yo would do sweet nothing. here is the thread to show you acutally how fed up i am with this place and maybe i have just been looking for that extra thing to really bug me to say leave

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=581940

. i can fully say i bet i will be a miss as i help everyone down there and do a hell of alot that i should be paid for but i pay YO to work :S and if i leave im sure YO will become stuck and other liveries and know one wants to come to the yard and im sorry to you people on here for not making anysense i think i just needed to say i am sick! LOL

 

[AmyMay]

No, wouldn't have been bothered either. Yard work can't stop because someone leaves a horse in.

 

[vieshot]

I think your the only person in the equestrian world who wouldn't be pleased that their youngster is getting new experiences.....

 

[sarahann1]

Re tractor going down the middle, we all have stuff at our stables, but we have a width it cant exceed or it will end up getting squashed. Maybe you could check with your YO what width of stuff there is space for to save it getting wrecked?

 

[piebaldsparkle]

Look you clearly aren't happy, so move.

However as you can see universal answer is nobody would be mad, got to be a 1st on HHo for all to be agreed!!!!!!!!

 

[FfionWinnie]

I think your the only person in the equestrian world who wouldn't be pleased that their youngster is getting new experiences.....

I'd go out my way to get such an experience for a youngster.

Maybe op, you should consider your attitude is why your horse has such trouble coping with new situations.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

I wouldn't have liveries for 'all the tea in China' but if I did and they left their stuff lying around in the way, I'd be tempted to run over it 'just because'.

There was time when I'd have been thrilled to have someone with a tractor come and teach my youngstyer that there was nothing to fear about a tractor.

OP, if you speak as you write I'm not surprised that there is communication difficulty between you and YO.

 

[Littlelegs]

I think op has been partaking in some festive tipples since starting the thread, she's slurring her posts!

 

[EllenJay]

First question - Why are you rugging an 18 month baby?

 

[AmyMay]

Ellanjay, that's totally irrelevant.