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Molly's mum

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Hello everyone

I’m Molly’s Mum and I hoping you will be able to help me help her to a more comfortable life. I’ve only had horses for 2 years, we sort of ‘rescued’ the two we have though to do so cost over £3K…I know many of you will think this was madness but we loved these two girls, they weren't quite neglected - but almost, so we worked hard to persuade the dealer to sell them to us. I should also say I have little knowledge of terminology of horses so if you think I've used an odd term then please thing of a dog and you’ll understand what I’m referring to.
Molly was dx last Oct with a tendon sheath tear in her rear right ankle. She’s 14 and we knew she’d been trained as a ride and drive what we didn't know was that she’d had also been jumped and then retired after this injury. That would have been when she was aged about 4. After that she’d been sold to the dealer and he had used her as a brood mare until we got her though she hadn't had a foal for the last 4 years prior to us buying her. After the dx we worked with our vet on the best course of treatment and Molly was put on box rest which for us here meant into a small grassed area with a barn and her companion of the field – a 30yr old gelding. They were in this area over the winter for about three months.
We live next to a farm and my horses are in the field on the other side of our green lane owned by the farmer who decided he wanted them to go back into the main field and moved her whilst I was at work  She went from a confined space to a field of about 5 acres. The next day the local hunt came and used the lane as a base to drop horses and dogs and to hunt along. They are supposed to give us notice (we live on a country estate) but they didn’t and that day dogs were running amongst heavily pregnant cows, and our horses were distressed and charging along the field hedge from one end of the field to the other.  You can imagine how I felt after months of trying to get Molly right and keeping her quiet! Things weren't going well with her injury and we had the op booked for the end of April but after the hunt visit things started to go very wrong. I noticed she was limping much more than she had been. We had a visit from a Bowen practitioner who told me she thought there was a bigger problem with Molly’s left hind leg. The vet came back and examined Molly and then Molly went to the hospital for X-rays. The outcome was a dx of severe arthritis in the lowest joint of the left hock and evidence of the start of arthritis in her right hock.  I was told not to worry too much as there was a good combination treatment that would get things under control so Molly was booked in for that treatment a couple of weeks later.
She was given a steroid injection into the hock joint, Tildren and was started on Cartrophen…a jab once a week for 4 weeks and thereafter monthly. She had the 5th cartrophen last Tuesday. I’m sad to say I don’t think there is any improvement at all, in fact if anything I think she’s worse…certainly without Bute in her. Prior to the start of treatment the lameness was only obvious to an experienced horse person. Now without Bute it’s a clearly obvious limp and when first getting up she limps badly for a good ¼ - ½ hour. Once she’s got going properly I can now see the limp but most people wouldn’t. Molly sometimes struggles to get up if she’s down on her left side and has to roll over to get up on the other side. I tried not to give the Bute last night and gave NoBute instead sadly this morning she was limping (I can watch them from my bathroom window) but by the time I got to her with some Bute she had lay down. She had the bute. I wasn't here when she got up but have seen her walking since and she seems ok.
I will give her another sachet of Bute this evening when I give her glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM. We started using it a week ago so she still has another week of a loading dose of that. I will list her treatment again below to make it simple to read.

These horses are at grass all year round, they are not rugged or stabled during the winter because Molly has cob in her and has always been out and so has Ruby who is full cob. So I would really like to get this under control for Molly as soon as possible to give us a head start on the autumn weather. I am also going to get some hock boots to protect the joints as much as possible. But would welcome any advice e or thoughts from you experienced people.
I am 63 years old next month and had hoped that I might learn to ride on Molly but that’s not going to happen now so she will simply be a pet (not my favourite term but you’ll understand what I mean) and Ruby who was born in the field and is now 5 will be trained for riding though I suspect a little too ambitious for me to consider. I also have dogs and am heavily involved in a support group for autoimmune affected dogs…I have had three dogs with AI conditions over the years so have a lot of experience in managing AI dogs using ‘off piste’ ideas that often defy convention as well as understanding that there is a place for alternative medicine alongside traditional treatments.

Thanks for reading if you've got this far and thanks in advance to anyone willing to share their ideas and thoughts to help Molly.

One off treatment of
Steroid injection into the joint
Tildren drip
Ongoing treatments
Cartorphen
Glucosamine/Chondrotin/MSM
Daily Bute sachet
 

tallyho!

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Hi MOlly's Mum and welcome to the forum.

So sad to read this especially as your first post :( but first I'd like to give you a hug as I can tell from what you write she means a lot to you and you love her very much. I can tell you only want the best.

What awful luck with the farmer and the hunt!!!! I think that has set you back a long long way I'm afraid and it will be a long road to recovery. My own experience with tendon injuries did not have a good outcome and we did the only thing we could and that was to retire to pasture. Unfortunately we had complications and she had to be pts. There is another mare who has tendon injuries to both hinds and is retired and happy as larry. YEs, she limps sometimes, but mostly sound. We had a few other arthritic mares too and they were retired in a big herd and lived out their lives in their 30's. None of them lived on bute or any painkillers.

I guess I'm trying to say your options are to carry on trying, retire to pasture or pts depending on the severity. It's very very hard and I do not envy anyone who has to make the decision, but as their stewards and protectors we must face the decision. Talk to your vet about the long term options and consider their advice too.

Much hugs x
 

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Hello Mollysmum! Oh my, how unfortunate for the poor girl. It does sound as if she will have ongoing arthritic problems. Both my horses are given turmeric and boswellia, they have anti-inflammatory properties and relieve pain, very good for arthritis. The best thing about both is that there are no side-effects. I get the boswellia (frankincencse) online from Rahiiq. You have to start with a very small amount as it is pungent stuff. If you have facebook, the turmeric users group has loads of advice on it's use. Boswellia is also good for tendon injuries. Good luck.
 

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thank you tallyho and Regandal for you kind replies

I can't bear the thought of her being in pain and to watch her stand with her left foot raised in the air because of stiffness is so sad therefore bute seems to be my only option for now. My vet keeps telling me that there's no reason not to give it because the dose is small and she's better off with it than without. I forgot to say I'd started Turmeric last night. Not sure how much to give a 500kg horse so started with a small teaspoon. Boswellia is something else I will try. I'd fallen asleep earlier and din't wake until 11pm so I've just been to the gate only to hear galloping over because she's heard my gate go. Not sure the running helps the tendon issue but at least she can run if she wants to so that's something.

I am concious that this is the intro board, do I need to re-post my intro onto one of the other threads or leave it here?

Thank you both again
 
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