Would you buy a horse with a vice?

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I bought a weaver being informed that he only does it occasionally when fed. He does however do it all over the place when excited including when tied to be tacked up which is fun saddling a wobbling 17.3!! At least with windsucking you can use the collars, it depends if you feel you know the full extent of the vice. if its perfect in other ways then i would probably go for it.
 
I would, if it fitted the bill in every other way. Wind sucking does not bother me if they still look well, there is a horse here now who is at it all the time - its very annoying
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but it looks well and does its job - Advanced eventing. Also a friends of mines horse who she did the young rider teams on years ago wind sucks - and still does now at 20plus, it has never affected him. I do worry a bit when they look poor and are hard to keep weight on, then I start to wonder what is going on inside!!
just seen the box walking one, Moo box walks and it drives me mad, she can nearly pick up trot when really going for it. I cross tie her in her door way with a hay net and offer her water often, then turn her out asap. Again though if it fits the bill in every other way I would still buy - better than something with a ridden vice IMO!!
 
I said yes to all three- primarily because my ponio cribbed and windsucked before I got him. However now he only does it after being fed or if he's REALLY bored! And he's stopped the cribbing and only windsucks now
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Don't think he even does it right though! :O
 
The BGL (Big Grey Lump) windsucks and cribs. Since I got him last year I have treated him for ulcers and he seems a lot better. I am lucky as at my yard we get 24/7 turnout for as much of the year as we want (usually until December) and then they get daily turnout. All of this helps to manage his stress levels - he came from a competition home so was kept in 24/7 and schooled - so lots of turnout, variety of hacking and schooling seems to be doing the trick. I did get him a collar but only used it for a week or two - was less stressed without it!

My mare shows no sign of copying him BTW - just looks at him as if he is slightly demented!!!

So i guess the answer is yes I would buy it as long as I could manage it (whatever the vice maybe) properly.
 
I had a crib biter on loan, and apart from checking her teeth more often, she was fine.

I think it depends on how severe and if there are any "side affects" Crib biting can cause ulcers, wing sucking can cause choke, weaving and box walking can cause weaker legs/tendons etc.

As long as all these are well monitored I see no reason why not!!
 
I've got a cribber. I love her to pieces. She is not only my first horse (12 1/2 years together so far...) but she is also one of a lifetime, HOWEVER, I very much doubt that I would ever buy another one. Too much trouble with fencing etc....

I also used to own a box walker and I wouldn't own one of those again either.
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Yes I would and I have...

Benji cribs and windsucks, pulls faces and will nip if he is in a cheeky mood. If you look at him when he first has his food he double barrels and would probably take your arm off if you tried to remove it BUT he is perfect to ride and adorable.
Having said this...he barely cribs and windsucks now...just a couple of mins after a feed...much like having a fag really. I put this down to him living out 24/7/365. I've never tried to stop him and none of his mates have tried to copy.
 
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Having said this...he barely cribs and windsucks now...just a couple of mins after a feed...much like having a fag really. I put this down to him living out 24/7/365. I've never tried to stop him and none of his mates have tried to copy.

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Yup, my mare had been a cribber for some time before I got her, and in a stable she's a big cribber, but I have had her out 24/7 for years now, AND specially fenced the field for her, so she hardly doesn't do it now, unless tied up in a spot she can, or at one spot in the field. Hence she hold condition sooo much better now.
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However, it's a bit of a worry to me about how should she need to be stabled for something I'd worry about the colic risk...
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Yes to cribbing/windsucking & in theory yes to box walking, but as I hate my stables anything other than immaculate it'd drive me mad.
 
Yep, I did. Mine Cribs. I was told that when i went to view him. but the fact that you can ride him past the biggest rubbish lorry makes up for it.
I have got used to it now. It's part of my boy.
he is an ex-racer, I am I sure it is because he spent so much time in the stable it is now a habit he will always have.
no horse is perfect.
 
Yes, my Captain windsucks, he has only had colic once (touch wood) and he is fit, healthy and happy. He windsucks when he is excited or stressed. I try to keep his stress level as low as possible. He also greets us with a quick gulp and the goes back to grazing.

I think if you are looking for the perfect horse, you will look a long time!
 
i wouldn't because i hate the noise of windsucking and cribbing and box walking would wind me up
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my grey in my siggy did weave but it was very mild and only at times of great stress- couldn't have put up with one that weaved constantly. bear in mind might cause probs if selling on in future....
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I'm afraid I bred one that cribbed, my fault as when she was weaned kept in 24/7 at a livery yard and when I bought my own place twit that I was put cribcollar on her even when I turned her out, took me years to realise what I was doing took collar off, very little cribbing from then on. she was put down at 19 with her sister who was suffering from cushings at 24 they had been togther all their lives. I'm shamed to say the only one the cribbing use to annoy was me and she only did it at feedtimes or stress
 
At the end of the day are you looking for a horse to ride or look at!

My personal opinion is what they do in their own personal time is their own thing. My Grade A weaves, he's 20yrs and still as sound as a pound with no probs. My old lad windsucked for England but still jumped HOYS. My hubbys horse pulls faces like he is going to rip your head off, and only has half a tail but still is a real superstar.

My own personal horses I really don't care what they do when I'm not on their back. I bought them for the job they perform. BUT the dealing horses we try and avoid any vices as so many people want the absolute perfect horse, that eats haylage, passes gold, looks pretty, jumps like a Int Grade A, hunt, dressage, event, immaculate legs etc and basically shake your hand each time you enter the stable. So hence try and get the dealing horses as perfect as poss
 
''we try and avoid any vices as so many people want the absolute perfect horse, that eats haylage, passes gold, looks pretty, jumps like a Int Grade A, hunt, dressage, event, immaculate legs etc and basically shake your hand each time you enter the stable. So hence try and get the dealing horses as perfect as poss ''

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I bought a weaver being informed that he only does it occasionally when fed. He does however do it all over the place when excited including when tied to be tacked up which is fun saddling a wobbling 17.3!!

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His name isn't Vinny is it?

I would buy a horse with any of these vices if it was what i wanted in all other respects. I've had horses that weave/crib/windsuck (in fact my mare weaves but it's never a problem - I can manage it) and I've never found it too much of an issue. I think it would depend on the extent of the vice and when it was apparent.
 
I would never buy a horse that cribs or windsucks, as a lot of yards round here won't allow them on the yard, so it would make it very difficult for me to find a suitable yard to keep one at.
 
I have had two cribbers so said yes to that, but did say no to box walking mainly because my situation is such that I cannot offer 24/7 turnout and to keep a box walker in would not only drive it mad but me also
 
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