Would you buy a reformed rearer

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FfionWinnie

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Horse is a genuine type other than napped a bit and when forced on reared to 3/4 height in a controlled slow way. 6 months on the new owner who bought as a project has worked through the napping and has not had any problems for a while. Sent the horse to be ridden by someone else out hacking on the roads alone etc and it is going well for last 6 weeks. The horse is 4 and current owner reckons was pushed too fast.

Potential purchaser is experienced with idiotic horses but was really looking for a quieter life. Horse is generally calm and exactly what the purchaser was looking for apart from, who wants a rearer (!).

Worse case scenario it reverts to previous behaviour when changes hands (although hasn't with last move) and needs worked through it again.

Would you?
 
I would only buy a reformed rearer if I was sure I could work through it if/when the issue arises again.

If she is looking for a quieter life does she really want to have to work with something that has shown it likes to wave at crowds when under pressure?

Sounds like a normalish youngster but perhaps not right for this purchaser.
 
No. Its not something Id want to be bothered with tbh.

Wouldnt buy one anyway, I mean if I had one that started Id have to work through it but no, I wouldnt go out and buy problems deliberately. Not got the time or inclination.
 
I would say it would depend on what the potential buyer wants the horse for?

Have had experience of a rearer who napped lots - spend ages working on it in the school/at home and got it going so much better - no problems. Took it to a show and that was it, the behaviour all came back and had to really work hard. The environment was just too much. But she'd be perfect if all she was used for was schooling at home.

I don't think you can ever be sure it's gone completely, but if the potential owner things she can manage and can put the work in to correct if it does arise then I don't see a problem. But if there's a bit of doubt then I'd stay well clear as you wouldn't want it to become a bigger problem. I'd also be interested in knowing who hacked it = are they very experienced and able to 'prevent'/'manage' the behaviour - how would it hack with a less experienced person on board?
 
nappy horses will always revert! and they will always test and try a new owner. shame a 4 yr old wasnt done right in the first place! personally if i bought this at 4 rising 5 i would turn away for 4 to 8 weeks and start again properly!
 
All valid points.

The horse has been turned away and restarted. This is it coming to the point of being ready to sell.

The potential purchaser has the ability and experience to tackle the horse at its worst, and the horse is in other aspects exactly what they want, maybe even a dream horse.

I think the seller could easily have not disclosed this but genuinely wants the right situation for the horse.
 
I bought a horse and found out 3 weeks later that she was a rearer that had gone up and over with previous owner, ive owned her nearly 2 years now and she has been a dream with me and only rearing incident we have had was last week when on a hack she got foot caught in a wire fence (was broken and hidden in long grass) she went up a few times trying to get monster off her leg, soon as i spoke to her she stood stock still till i got off, poor girl was terrified and that was the only reason she went up x
 
FfionWinnie said:
Yes I agree with you.

Maybe the question I should have asked was "can a rearer be reformed".

I feel youth is on the side of this horse since its not a long engrained habit.
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Yes they can be reformed and it depends a lot on why the horse reared the why in rearing is so important .
 
There was a problem with teeth when first purchased by current owner. Current owner said horse didn't reform as soon as teeth done but mouth was ulcerated/torn so there was a fair problem and would potentially have taken a while to heal and be forgotten about.

Secondly horse was rushed as a younger animal.

Would you chance you arm asking for a trial/lwvtb. It's not something I'd normally do. Horse is too far away to visit and ride at the owners place for a few weeks unfortunately.
 
Personally I certainly would. Let's face it - seller has been honest - you know the history and the reasoning behind the rearing. I see no problem.

Frankly you could buy a 'current rearer' or worse from someone. How does anyone know a horse is a reformed 'rearer' 'bucker' 'bolter' unless the seller fesses up and how many usually do that??

I see rearing in a youngster as a fear reaction due to inexperience and being asked too much and there being a breakdown in the communication. My WB will rear and strike if he is scared on the ground - it's just the way he reacts. With patience all these reactions can be eradicated and of course they remain as 'learnt behaviour' for a time, but that will soon go. Rearing is a natural reaction for a horse; it doesn't sound like this horse was dangerous.
 
If the horse was rearing and nappy in response to mouth pain and has now settled down to be happy and forward yes a trial would be a great idea, a few weeks will give you a clear idea as to whether the issues are forgotten. I had one in to school that reared, he also had mouth issues, once resolved he never thought about it again, he was responding to pain in the only way he could.
Rearers that are established and just plain nappy will usually continue to do so given the opportunity, so if this horse is now going out alone it should be fine.
 
Well there's no harm in asking and a trial or lwavtb would be a great idea the question really is how would you cope with the horse rearing ? Would it freak you out do you have experiance with challenging horses it difficult to advise because there are loads of horses out there that will have been up to all sorts as youngsters but no one tells you or the seller does not know .
has the horse been for sale a while if so I think you have a chance of a trial or lwavtb.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Thanks guys you have confirmed my initial thoughts I will let you know what happens ;)
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I would too, I think.

My horse reared for a good 6 months, and then up for 2 years did so when put under pressure.

Hes now (thankfully, touch wood!!) stopped wasting his energies and apart from the small random rears every so often I never think about if he's going to go up! If he does they're pretty pathetic and he soon gets on with the job :D
 
Another No from me after being airlifted to hospital from a horse rearing and going over backwards from me I am now very wary of horses that rear.
 
I should stress its reared when napping on hacks. It hasn't as far as I know napped or reared on its own on the school. And I don't think it's done it that much but the seller has been honest enough to disclose it. I agree most sellers would not.

I had a horse for 14 years who was as a 2 year old extremely difficult on the ground. I sold her recently and didn't mention her being difficult as a youngster as I considered she was no longer and had not been for about 12 years. Obviously this horse is young and has not been reformed for that long but it seems to me the seller has done their utmost to fix and test out the horse so far.
 
Could you arrange to go somewhere strange with the horse with you on another horse and watch it hacked in strange surroundings that would be a good thing to see.
 
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