Would you loan or do people loan youngsters ?

[Mary3050]

Hi guys ,

Do people actually loan youngsters that are unbroken?

My friend has a one youngster and we went half’s on another 50:50 (long story). These guys are two year old very quite etc. At my friends field out for most of the year. She been spending lots of time with them the last year . Which has been great for them . However she concerned that as she goes back to work and has less time that they won’t be getting the attention they require . They will get care etc groomed and feed picked out is once a day at the min but they will get groomed every few days again as before but they aren’t going to be getting the other stuff she been doing. Teaching them to trot up inhand, taking them on the roads/ walks off the property. Boxing up, baths etc the list is endless they have been exposed to everything. They are both getting long reined/ light lunge 3 times a week. I have been helping when possible.

My friend is back at work so they probably aren’t going to get attention like they have been getting everyday. They may get long reined etc or lead out once a week. I have said I will go up for a few hours on a weekend to give her a hand etc but my friend is concerned that they are going to miss the attention. I think they will be fine as I said they will enjoy being horse . But she convinced that we need to keep the exposure to things. She suggested we let someone part loan them at her place. I said I don’t think people part loan unbroken youngsters? I suggested maybe seeing if anyone wants to spend time with them or even paying a friends daughter very competent 15 year old to spend time with them when my friends working her other . But my friend is convinced that someone would part Loan them and pay for the privilege . I said I didn’t think anyone would do this but she sent me adverts of a couple of another adverts with yearling or 2 years olds for part loan .

I have always put the basics on my foals i.e usual handling etc then left then to grow then just bring them in occasionally for a groom, bath, odd show etc when I have time they start all the education stuff when they are 3 like the lunging long reigning etc . It’s always worked fine but do people actually part loan youngsters ?


My friend seen an ad of another 2 year old up for part loan for £30 a week and that you had to muck out? Is this an actual thing ?

Anyone got any idea if this is a thing I am so confused that anyone would want to loan a two year old ?

 

[sport horse]

My two year olds are out in the field - they were taught to lead as foals and they will do nothing else until they are broken in at 3 years old, then returned to the field until they are 4 and ready to start light work. In my experience after a ifetime of breeding and breaking in, the horses that have been fussed around are the worst to break and train. At 2 years old they are babies, they are young - let them grow up without fussing around them. I cannot believe anyone would want to loan a 2 year od and if they did I would be scared witless what they might do with it!

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

I have previously fully loaned a yearling out. She went to be a companion for 3 years. I didn't need her but didn't want to sell her as we wanted to breed from her at some point. The person who loaned her took her to a handful of shows and did well. I wouldn't have asked her to pay for looking after my pony, she was doing me a favour!

I don't know how many people would actually pay to part loan a youngster, I certainly wouldn't!. Plus they have done enough. They need time to be themselves away from humans before they turn rude and bolshy as they grow up.

 

[Roxylola]

Anyone prepared to pay is unlikely to have the experience I'd want to be dealing with baby horses in my opinion/experience.

 

[Goldenstar]

I would not do it .
The chances of getting undesirable stuff done to them is too high .
They have had a lot done with them .
A period of being horses will do them good .

 

[TheMule]

They're 2? Leave them be, let them be horses, they shouldnt be lunging/ long lining at all, let alone 3x a week

 

[ihatework]

Chances are you do more harm than good by constantly faffing with them, especially if you have different people doing different things.

FWIW my 2yos live out 24/7, never see a brush, are lucky if they get a headcollar on once a week and their feet picked out. They get balancer & hay thrown at them, herded between field with their mates.

 

[Melody Grey]

You could get your youngsters absolutely ruined. I wouldn’t!! How about youngstock grass livery if time is an issue?

 

[Mary3050]

My two year olds are out in the field - they were taught to lead as foals and they will do nothing else until they are broken in at 3 years old, then returned to the field until they are 4 and ready to start light work. In my experience after a ifetime of breeding and breaking in, the horses that have been fussed around are the worst to break and train. At 2 years old they are babies, they are young - let them grow up without fussing around them. I cannot believe anyone would want to loan a 2 year od and if they did I would be scared witless what they might do with it!

Usually how I do it bring them in occasionally so they don’t get wild and unhandled. Will be interested to see if this whole fussing and two makes any difference . My fiends not had that any from a foal so my leave the out they will be fine shes not a big fan off.

 

[Mary3050]

I have previously fully loaned a yearling out. She went to be a companion for 3 years. I didn't need her but didn't want to sell her as we wanted to breed from her at some point. The person who loaned her took her to a handful of shows and did well. I wouldn't have asked her to pay for looking after my pony, she was doing me a favour!

I don't know how many people would actually pay to part loan a youngster, I certainly wouldn't!. Plus they have done enough. They need time to be themselves away from humans before they turn rude and bolshy as they grow up.

My thoughts also that’s why I was like if anything I would rather pay my fiends daughter to fuss them but I don’t think they need it . May try and pitch the benefits off leaving them to it for a while ?

 

[Mary3050]

Anyone prepared to pay is unlikely to have the experience I'd want to be dealing with baby horses in my opinion/experience.

My thought also I don’t get why anyone would pay for something they can’t ride

I would not do it .
The chances of getting undesirable stuff done to them is too high .
They have had a lot done with them .
A period of being horses will do them good .

I said this glad you agree think it’s time to pitch my leave them to it mentality. I have Irish family and they breed Connemara and they just do the bare minimum and deal with them at 3 they are all cracking horse .

They're 2? Leave them be, let them be horses, they shouldnt be lunging/ long lining at all, let alone 3x a week

Just to clarify it’s not really “lunging” it’s a stick a lunge line on they walk around learn to stand change the rein for about 10 minutes. The vet said it was fine to do something light with them as one lets just say got a little Chucky last summer which I have never known before in a yearling . The vet said it was odd but couldn’t find a reason why a bit off time off the grass and some walking he’s been fine since.

 

[Mary3050]

You could get your youngsters absolutely ruined. I wouldn’t!! How about youngstock grass livery if time is an issue?

Exactly the reason I am not up for it ! Oh it’s not even that that she hasn’t got the time to give them basic care. It’s just she thinks they are going to miss the attention . I was like well they probably aren’t gonna be that bothered and if they are they will get over it ?.

 

[eggs]

I did the basics with my foals and 5hen they were left to grow up in similar age herds. I woupdate feed them in the field daily and give them a quick check over but apart from catching them in for the farrier that was about it. I don’t believe in fussing younsgsters.

 

[Mary3050]

Thanks for everyone’s advice I spoke to my friend today and told her I didn’t think a part loan would be possible to find and even if she did I thought it was a bad idea .
I have suggested that they have time to be baby’s but if she concerned they are going to get bored so I suggested to rotate the fields every few days they currently just over 2 acres between them that’s spilt in 3 large paddocks and one smaller one . My friend tends to leave them on one for a while and them moves them when the grass is gone . I suggested she could move them every few days keep them entertain that way as they can explore a different area and “speak” to different horse over the fence. She said she was also worried about little piggy getting fat again. So I said I don’t think it should happen as he seems to be growing steadily now. If he did I suggested setting up a track system over the 2 acres keep them moving etc . Or when she about to keep an eye on them finding a toy they can play with like them hay balls or Large footballs I used to have one that loved playing with footballs ?She said she will give it ago see how they get on with having a field change etc .

Hopefully that will keep my friend from worrying as I am pretty much certain the baby’s aren’t going to care much at all .

 

[windand rain]

I wouldn't let one go ot but might ask to have one to youngstock show from a weanling but by 2 they just need to be out being horses.

 

[scruffyponies]

Any money changing hands is a joke. I might take on or loan out a youngster if I had no suitable company, so that they were out in the field with something of the same age until they were old enough to start. If it was my youngster going, I'd want to be pretty sure of the loaner's experience.

 

[Mary3050]

I wouldn't let one go ot but might ask to have one to youngstock show from a weanling but by 2 they just need to be out being horses.

Yes I know that but it’s my friends first time having them from foals so she being a bit over the top with them. I wasn’t particularly planning on buying a foal I have enough bloody horse as it is but the situation turned out as it did an now I have half a lovely 2 year old ?‍ . I agree they need some time to be baby’s but the whole them being brought in and given attention/ light work in walk is because one got a little fatty on the good grass which I have never seen before in a yearling so vet suggested that he did some light walking etc to get his waist down . But my friends just continued and I think she just wants everything to go perfect with out realising she is going to make them like two massive dogs which is gonna be a problem. Thanks

 

[Mary3050]

Any money changing hands is a joke. I might take on or loan out a youngster if I had no suitable company, so that they were out in the field with something of the same age until they were old enough to start. If it was my youngster going, I'd want to be pretty sure of the loaner's experience.

I thought it was very odd the ads she sent me but It clearly was a two year old for £30 a week not to move yards. They wouldn’t have been going anywhere but I think I have talked my friend out of it. Thanks

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Your friend sounds like she is way over the top horses don't get bored just living in a field that's what they are meant to do, they are used to being handled they won't forget just leave them out they don't care if they are groomed or walked round.

 

[Mary3050]

Your friend sounds like she is way over the top horses don't get bored just living in a field that's what they are meant to do, they are used to being handled they won't forget just leave them out they don't care if they are groomed or walked round.

Think she just wants to give them the perfect upbringing but the perfect upbringing is in the field . As I said sorted now thanks