Pictures Would you pay for this? Beach shoot

[BenvardenRach2]

Hi all!
My fiancé has been my personal photographer for a number of years now we regularly go to our local beach and get amazing shots.. see examples below.
Many of my friends have been asking whether he would offer a beach shoot too them. We are thinking of doing this, we have plenty of memory cards, batteries etc. Thinking of offering say a 45 min shoot + all photos sent over.
My questions are: as he is not a pro photographer do we need any sort of insurance etc and also how much would people pay for this service? Really not thinking of charging a fortune but needs to be worth our while

Any thoughts would be much appreciated! X

 

[Red-1]

I would do. I would pay £100 easily, perhaps more, for an amateur.

 

[wills_91]

These are beautiful photos and I would happily have paid for them. Very talented x

 

[AmyMay]

I’d absolutely do it. Rather than send all the photos though, I’d do a standard £30 charge for 45 mins/ 1 hour and then charge between £10 and £15 per photo.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Fantastic photos!! I would most definitely pay for them!

 

[Flicker]

Absolutely stunning yes I’d definitely part with cash for those

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

It’s a thing round our way, there are several photographers I see at the yard. One has a drone for action shots/gallops. Groups of riders tend to book together which would make it worthwhile for everyone. Your fiancé has talent. Go for it!

 

[nikkimariet]

Yup! Lovely pics.

 

[teapot]

Yes to insurance and also you need to check whether you’re allowed to take and sell imagery taken on x beach

 

[AmyMay]

Yes to insurance and also you need to check whether you’re allowed to take and sell imagery taken on x beach

I can’t see why insurance would be needed (although it’s in most people’s interest to have 3rd party liability). And unless the beach is privately owned (which I highly doubt) you would not need permission to sell photos taken there.

 

[teapot]

I can’t see why insurance would be needed (although it’s in most people’s interest to have 3rd party liability). And unless the beach is privately owned (which I highly doubt) you would not need permission to sell photos taken there.

It’s about covering your arse in case something goes wrong in public, and can be as simple as letting a client down via kit failure right through to all sorts of incidents. Also just simply good practice.

Re permission, a lot of UK beaches are actually owned by the Crown Estate and some will require permission to be used to make money, even if selling to friends. Never ever assume something/somewhere is simply ‘free to use how you like’.

 

[AmyMay]

It’s about covering your arse in case something goes wrong in public, and can be as simple as letting a client down right through to all sorts of incidents. Also just simple good practice.

Re permission, a lot of UK beaches are actually owned by the Crown Estate and some will require permission to be used to make money, even if selling to friends. Never ever assume something is simply ‘free to use how you like’.

All foreshores are owned by the Crown. And they do not require anyone to ask them for permission to sell their photos taken on beaches.

 

[teapot]

All foreshores are owned by the Crown. And they do not require anyone to ask them for permission to sell their photos taken on beaches.

My local one does and it is not privately owned. As does another slightly further away, again not privately owned.

In the OP’s sense it is still worth checking - a simple Google search and/or email will suffice. Again, simply good practice as someone selling imagery of any kind!

 

[AmyMay]

My local one does and it is not privately owned. As does another slightly further away, again not privately owned.

In the OP’s sense it is still worth checking - a simple Google search and/or email will suffice. Again, simply good practice as someone selling imagery of any kind!

I can’t believe that’s enforceable, but will be down to the local council.

 

[PapaverFollis]

I would think some insurance would be necessary, especially if you are "directing" the subjects in front of the camera? And are charging for a shoot, without which they might not be at the location... if you happened to be on the beach and took some incidental photos and charged for each photo or a package of photos then perhaps not... but if it is an organised photo shoot where to get decent pictures you might say "just have a canter along there towards me" I think you'd need some protection if it went pear shaped.

???? I don't know but I wouldn't be comfortable without some kind of insurance or a watertight disclaimer of some kind.

People are always falling off at the beach. Dogs. Loose horses. Roads. Etc etc. If someone can point a finger at someone making money from a situation that resulted in an accident...

 

[SOS]

I recently went to the beach and we paid for a photo shoot.

However in that area there were lots of low level photographs that did shoots which drove up the price of ours: a very detailed/more artistic photographer. Your photos are lovely and definitely above the base level photos which is a flooded market.

Our photographer was significantly more expensive but we got whatever shot we wished, him for the whole morning and get all the photos sent over digitally. It was £300 for two of us. The cheapest photographer around there was £50 per person and one free digital photo. A friend used them a few years ago and it was £100 to order anymore photos! So it adds up.

Lots were around £150/200 but you only got limited shots/time/had to only order prints through them.

 

[Keith_Beef]

My local one does and it is not privately owned. As does another slightly further away, again not privately owned.

In the OP’s sense it is still worth checking - a simple Google search and/or email will suffice. Again, simply good practice as someone selling imagery of any kind!

I was under the same impression as Amymay, too, but I found this:

It is true that the majority of the foreshore in England and Wales is owned by the Crown Estate, however some of the foreshore is now also owned by private landlords. ... This, in effect, means that the Crown Estate owns all of the foreshore unless it has in the past sold it or given it away.

 

[MereChristmas]

Look at MarthaLily Photographs on facebook. She does photoshoots in many places including the beach.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Lovely pictures

 

[PurBee]

I know a Cornish landowner who’s large estate includes in the deeds owning a very popular cornish beach, but they havent enforced their legal status or anything as they’re often got other land legal issues ongoing that are more of a priority to deal with.

Sometimes you see properties that are very close to the shore and include use of the foreshore….most ads dont state if theyre owned in the deeds specifically, but many of those types of small shores stretches are hard to access from main beaches anyway, so generally are private to use for these dwellers, even if owned by the crown.

I personally wouldnt be concerned using major beaches as a venue for a photoshoot….if someone approaches saying ‘get orf me land’ , which would be rare on a beach, i’d apologise and leave, on the very rare off-chance that were to happen.

Another nice venue would be parkland estates - you’d want to approach them first obviously - many would be amenable to the idea im sure as they often are in horrendous financial struggles maintaining their estates, and im sure you’d be giving them a very good ‘extra income’ idea to raise maintenance funds, alongside the weddings etc they normally gravitate to hosting.
Obviously galloping around an estate would potentially wreck the grassland so you’d want to be respectful of such things, but they often have huge cedar of lebanon trees, and other heritage trees and buildings which complement equestrian photography really nicely, i think.

Lovely photo’s OP - your OH has a good eye and nice camera…..the colour tones of the shots are really lovely. Very natural looking…life-like….truly fantastic capturing of perfect moments.

I have a photographer friend who spends hours/days sometimes on 1 shot photoshopping ‘imperfections’ - normally background objects detracting from the shot etc. He does a fantastic job i will admit but he makes it sound like a painful process to get the ‘perfect shot’ - as many of his shoots are in public places so there’s often visual ‘noise’ in the pic he has to photoshop out.
He does HDR photography and i really love the ‘magical’ effect HDR gives to pictures….it would be fab to see some horsey HDR pics…is it something your OH has ventured into?

 

[Andie02]

I agree with PapaverFollis. If you are charging fees for photography then Professional Indemnity Insurance is definitely advised if only for peace of mind.........if there is a blame there can be a claim and often is these days.

 

[Pipps]

Those pictures are stunning and I'd definitely pay for a photoshoot!
Price wise I think really depends on your area, demand, other competition etc.

 

[Lucky Snowball]

I would definitely pay for this opportunity. Recently I have purchased photos with horse's legs cut off, My hat cut off, legs in the 'wrong' place. A posed standing shot with the ears back - why not wait until they were forward??? The standard near me is shocking! Yes please.

 

[SusieT]

The pictures are lovely. Possibly not quite the quality I would pay for but depends on the price! I'd consider paying eg. £120 for non blurry, perfeclty edited photos. For slight blur/a little too bright I'd probably pay £30-40 . I would consider options - if doing it for friends you can probably just start cracking on. If doing for the general public consider insurance as you need to consider e..g what happens if the subject knocks over another beach goer - who is liable?