Would you sell to someone who cant even put a headcollar on correctly?

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B is considering selling H to our liveries' son. Who can't even put her headcollar back on properly. He is learning to ride but can only walk. He is a grown man - why would he want a 14hh welsh cob?

Am so worried, she will be wasted and ruined and we've just got her going nicely and planned to compete her in a bit of dressage in the new year.

Am really upset about the thought of her being sold to them, i know she will still be at our yard but i feel awful about it i don't agree with many of the ways they do things, their horses are ill mannered and allowed to get away with murder half the time, i don't want H ending up like that.

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if you sell to them, you will be miserable watching everything they do with the horse. and no, i wouldn't sell to someone who couldn't put a headcollar on, no matter how experienced everyone around them... sometimes they won't be supervised, and could do things very wrong. and, as you know with horses, even if you do know what you're doing, things can still go wrong!
so, no. sell elsewhere if you must, but don't sell to someone clueless, i think.
 
Nope, not in a million years, if they dont know how to do something this simple, then im sure they wont know about rules of feeding etc etc which could mean disaster for the pony!
 
It isn't clear who or what B and H are. If this isn't your horse then you might not like it but it doesn't concern you. There are plenty of clueless owners, fortunately most of them are well supported on full livery and therefore don't actually need to know too much.
The horse won't care if it never does dressage
 
Absolutely not!

only extenuating circumstances would of course be to a child with horsey parents or to someone who had lots of experienced support around (and who listens to said experienced helpers!)
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H is pony in my avatar, chesnut mare.

B is who is thinking of selling her, though he said he never would.

Sorry to confuse am just really upset about it.

These liveries drive me mad at the best of time with their incompetance i would hate her to go them.

They are on DIY and won't listen to anything we try to tell them to help them so i would be constantly worried about her.
 
Well that's as clear as mud.....
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So H is the pony who is owned by B? H does not belong to you then? And who is B anyway? A friend?

Yes I would sell to someone who didn't have a clue, PARTICULARLY if they were going to be keeping the horse on my yard where I can help show them how to do things.
 
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So H is the pony who is owned by B? H does not belong to you then? And who is B anyway? A friend?

Yes I would sell to someone who didn't have a clue, PARTICULARLY if they were going to be keeping the horse on my yard where I can help show them how to do things.

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No she doesn't belong to me entirely no, its a strange set up, B is a friend yes.

Thats all fine and good if the people concerned would actually listen to you and do things the way you show them to.... these people won't
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I wouldn't mind her being sold to more experienced people who would listen to help and advice given to them however our liveries are not these people
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There was a time when YOU, and every single one of us, didn't know how to put a headcollar on. You shouldn't dismiss people because they are inexperienced.
 
At least if B (whoever that is) sells to these people, the horse will still be in the yard. But I must point out that once sold, any horse can end up anywhere. The only way you could have control over this mare's future is to buy her yourself.

There have been many posts on this forum in the past from people at the other end of this situation where advice given to novices is seen as other people being bossy and know-it-alls. Now I am not saying you are like that at all, but do you think that maybe this ignoramus is feeling a little intimidated by how much he has to learn? Maybe that's why he's reluctant to listen?
 
absolutely no way, especially not if they're not willing to listen and learn. It is true that everyone has to learn sometime, but surely they should do this before even considering buying a horse?? It is horrible seeing all your hard work go down the drain too
 
This is a difficult decision. My overriding feeling, having lived and worked with a dealer for several years (who yes, sold lots of horses to the meat man), is that there are so many horses out there who are not cared for, which at it's simplest in my eyes means providing their basic needs and loving them. I'm sure there are lots more who would be great at going out and about and doing more, but as long as they are well and happy and comfortable and loved, then in my opinion they are a lot better off than a lot of the horses that I saw. And if we sell them on to someone we don't know, how do we know they won't end up in that situation? Several of the horses that came to us were through divorce or moving house or some such other major upheaval that no one could predict.

Sorry, I get a bit emotional about it all! Good luck with finding the best home for her.

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No. Agreed we all had to learn but you don't practice on an animal that is your sole responsibility. You go to a riding school where you can be supervised and do some basic learning on courses like the Horse Owners Certificates. It's simply not fair to the horse, we all know how badly wrong things can go even with experience.
 
NO i wouldnt.

i wouldnt have dreamt of buying a pony if i wasnt capable of the basics, and would never sell to someone like that.

There is always the right buyer out there
 
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This is true, but i was no way near ready for my own pony at this point as i dont believe the person thinking of buying the pony in this post is either by the sounds of things!
 
That is NOT my quote! Gah, that is so rude to do that; please quote the person who actually writes those words and not another user. Sorry just irks me a lot.
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I've suggested a compromise of a part loan/share, where they have her 3 nights a week and 1 day at the weekend and we have her the other 3 days. So will wait to see what the response is to that.

I think that is a much better solution for everyone all round as simply don't understand why they need to buy her.

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as simply don't understand why they need to buy her.

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Did anyone here 'need' to buy a horse?

If they are as bad as you say, why would B (ACDEF?) want to sell their horse to them?
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