Would you use Sedalin to start walk work under saddle?

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I know this is probably not the best forum for this to be in, but you all know what Grace and I have been through, and also how loopy she was the last time we started the walking under saddle (you may remember me worrying about how to stay on
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So, next week is her last one being stable bound... and on Monday 21st April the dreaded task of walking (under saddle) will begin
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I have some sedalin paste from when she was in and work was being done on the stables at my old yard (she was completely losing the plot because the roof was being done and she was on complete box rest), and I was wondering whether anyone had used this on a ridden horse?

Obviously, I will contact the surgeon nearer the time... but I was just interested if I am honest
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I have four full syringes left of it.

We have three weeks of walking, and then on 19th May she is going back up to Halifax for her reassessment
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When my anglo-arab came off box rest having fractured his pedal bone, I was told by my vet to ride him on up to 12 ACP & 12 diazapam until he settled and Fox wasnt allowed out until he would walk under saddle without being explosive! Fox was always very hyper and to be honest, this barely took the edge off him but it was in the days before sedalin. Personally, if it helps keep Grace safe I would definitely use sedalin. Just mention to your vet first to check quantities etc.
 
Thanks Panda2007... I have always been wary about riding when they have had some form of sedation (tripping etc etc) but she was so loopy when I last rode her which will not do her legs any good whatsoever. I can't blame her either, she has now been on box rest (ok, she was walked for an hour by the end last time) for five months continuous!

When we went back to Hirds for the trot up (when the operation was opted for) she almost took the vets head off because she was bucking in her usual fashion... so he knows how bad she is
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They actually gave her a shot of ACP just to lunge her that day
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I think its a good idea - I'd talk to you vet as they might be able to offer a correct dose for her

Really hard when they say 'yipee' and you want them to look after their legs!!

I guess the other thing would be a horse walker if you have access to one. At least they are confined and (in theory) cannot jump about as much.
 
I think you can use any oral sedative safely (in general increasing the dose past the recommended amount does not increase the level of sedation, but only the length of it). With some horses you may not see any difference as they can get themsleves worked up, but with others it is really helpful and can really take the edge off for those first few weeks. Prolonged use (more than a month of daily use) can lead to liver damage so is not recommended.

Hope it all goes well!
 
when my lad came back from a check lig injury, my vet advised me to asp/ sedalin him before hand. He was given it then left for 30 mins, then ridden. It did help, he is one of those horses that if somebody drops a buckrt on the yard he p*sses off round the school!
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We also used to (and still do if we think hes very fresh) plug his ears, really works for him. (just a thought?)
 
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remember it will work quicker on empty stomach...........

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She never has an empty stomach... she is on adlib haylage and I can only ride in the evening after work
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Not ideal, I know!
 
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Im sure ive used sedalin before on Gin when she had time off a few years back. I didnt give her much though but it did work.

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Thanks Nat... do you know how long you used it for?
 
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I think its a good idea - I'd talk to you vet as they might be able to offer a correct dose for her

Really hard when they say 'yipee' and you want them to look after their legs!!

I guess the other thing would be a horse walker if you have access to one. At least they are confined and (in theory) cannot jump about as much.

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I completely agree! She is just happy to be out of confinement, and I am worried about her legs!
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I don't have access to a walker. I was umming and ahhing about sending her away to a rehab place about an hour away, but it was working out so very expensive and she has never been on a walker before so it would all be a little daunting when we are trying to keep her calm!
 
I was told by my vet to use acp/sedolin when i brought my horse back into work after 8 months off throught injury.

I never used it as i didnt feel i needed it despite really really needing it for inhand walking she was fine undersaddle.

I would be happier usuing it than not for sure in your case.
 
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I think you can use any oral sedative safely (in general increasing the dose past the recommended amount does not increase the level of sedation, but only the length of it). With some horses you may not see any difference as they can get themsleves worked up, but with others it is really helpful and can really take the edge off for those first few weeks. Prolonged use (more than a month of daily use) can lead to liver damage so is not recommended.

Hope it all goes well!

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Eek, the last thing we need is liver damage
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Then again, it is something Grace has not had yet
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Thank for that... it would only be for the first week I hope!
 
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when my lad came back from a check lig injury, my vet advised me to asp/ sedalin him before hand. He was given it then left for 30 mins, then ridden. It did help, he is one of those horses that if somebody drops a buckrt on the yard he p*sses off round the school!
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We also used to (and still do if we think hes very fresh) plug his ears, really works for him. (just a thought?)

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It sounds as though you are describing my girl
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Last time a rabbit was happily bouncing about in a field next to the arena and we had a complete and utter stress out about it, snorting, spinning, rearing, squealing...
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I just about managed to stay on but she really hurt my back with her antics!
 
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I was told by my vet to use acp/sedolin when i brought my horse back into work after 8 months off throught injury.

I never used it as i didnt feel i needed it despite really really needing it for inhand walking she was fine undersaddle.

I would be happier usuing it than not for sure in your case.

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Thanks... I just about coped with the inhand walking last time (with the help of a coupling chain, bit and pressure halter), but her ridden work she was just so excited to be doing something!
 
Yes I have done this in the past, 1.5 ml was about right for my horse to just take the edge off but you will need to experiment with the amount.
 
I gave mine 2ml when doing walk work from box rest. It turned him into a zombie though and he could barely put one foot in front of the other, so I got off and didn't use again as it was more dangerous to ride with than without.

However I think his reaction to it was pretty extreme, with other horses I wouldn't hesitate.
 
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I gave mine 2ml when doing walk work from box rest. It turned him into a zombie though and he could barely put one foot in front of the other, so I got off and didn't use again as it was more dangerous to ride with than without.

However I think his reaction to it was pretty extreme, with other horses I wouldn't hesitate.

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Eek... this is what worried me!
 
After Cowbag broke her lag and had 4 months box rest, I ahd to get on as controlled exercise meant her lifting my 6'6'' Father off his feet and it was safer for everyone including her to have me back on board.

A few ACP's later, I got on and she was a lamb. never looked back.

OK, do it moderatly so the hoss still has spacial awareness etc, but I see no reason why not. Its for your safety and hers.

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We've used it on a really bucky four year old for his first few days ridden work after a break.
We've used it on a loonie 16.2 hh to calm him down just to see if it was possible.
Both times we gave the lowest recommended dose for competition and all it did was take the edge off enough to ride the first one safely, and the second one relaxed and worked beautifully.
We did this for three days then gradually reduced the does to zero.
I think under the circumstances it would be a sensible thing for you to do.
 
Ive beem using it on mine, just trial the doses to see how much you will need to sit on her. Some days Ive put in 1ml and weve been A OK and somedays 6-8ml doesnt touch him. That is why my mum has banned me from riding him!! Grounded! It felt weird to not have "my horse" under me so to speak but so much better for him.
 
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After Cowbag broke her lag and had 4 months box rest, I ahd to get on as controlled exercise meant her lifting my 6'6'' Father off his feet and it was safer for everyone including her to have me back on board.

A few ACP's later, I got on and she was a lamb. never looked back.

OK, do it moderatly so the hoss still has spacial awareness etc, but I see no reason why not. Its for your safety and hers.

JB xx

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Thanks Jellybaby... last time she was being walked in hand she ended up kicking my husband
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She spins, bucks, leaps etc etc. and none of this is going to be useful to her or me
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