WOW! not in a good way

[paddy555]

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[ycbm]

Why is there a competition to win a cup for to make horses look like broken crocks?

Vile.
.

 

[dixie]

Why, just why.
And a thousand likes already.

 

[Gloi]

I can't see the point of the western pleasure. Where's the pleasure in riding a horse going like that.

 

[Fjord]

When you watch a sound horse in the field trotting and cantering freely, it looks so lovely, with the beautiful freedom of movement. Knowing that, why on earth would you want to make your horse move like this?

 

[Velcrobum]

Exactly WOW in not a good way. Do not seem to be able to comment any more...........

 

[Goldenstar]

I cannot understand this at all .
Gives me those free Willy feelings

 

[Jenko109]

I don't like it. It's not for me.

As ridiculous and alien as it seems though, having a horse slogging along like that on a loose rein, surely can't be hugely detrimental?

Yes. It is icky and it does make my eyes bleed, but I am not entirely appalled.

 

[Red-1]

Western Pleasure and Big Lick. Don't understand either.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=641067893531933

 

[Follysmum]

Awful
My QH horses thankfully move nothing like this

 

[Carrottom]

I really wish I hadn't watched that.

 

[humblepie]

How odd. Not going to lasso many cattle at that speed.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

I don't understand why the big lick is so hard to abolish, if you make hosting a show that allows it a criminal matter with a hefty fine then it ends surely?!
Why all this skirting around the point 'we can make it less cruel'... no you can't.
It makes me so angry.

 

[ycbm]

Western Pleasure and Big Lick. Don't understand either.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=641067893531933

 

[Widgeon]

Why, just why.
And a thousand likes already.

Although in fairness, there are also a lot of comments expressing what I can only call disgust. So that's something. I completely agree with @Gloi - where's the pleasure in riding that! Utterly bizarre.

I don't think it's necessarily fair to compare it to Big Lick though - like @Jenko109 says, it looks like an uncomfortable slog, but it isn't 24/7 horse torture in the same way as Big Lick (unless I'm missing something major)

 

[SEL]

And that's why they still have PSSM 1 in those western pleasure horses - they're not allowed to move properly so no one knows when they can't

 

[paddy555]

And that's why they still have PSSM 1 in those western pleasure horses - they're not allowed to move properly so no one knows when they can't

if my horse moved in that way I would have called the vet long ago,

 

[SpeedyPony]

It doesn't look particularly comfortable to ride either, which I thought was the point.
The old boy (QH X) can do a lovely jog- head low, relaxed, easy to sit. I can understand why that sort of gait is bred/trained into them, as it's a pleasant gait for travelling faster than a walk without the bounciness of a trot. I can imagine a proper lope is similar, but the extremes the showing circuit has taken it to is a caricature of what started out as a sensible gait.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I can't see the point of the western pleasure. Where's the pleasure in riding a horse going like that.

I did pleasure class with my mare and her lope was nothing like this, she was IDxTB mare, this though have to agree is awful.

 

[4Hoofed]

And that's why they still have PSSM 1 in those western pleasure horses - they're not allowed to move properly so no one knows when they can't

I keep getting US breeders in my feeds trying to justify it and saying it’s all “natural” there’s just how they move by showing clips of when foals slow up in slow motion. Too much money not enough sense.

 

[Surbie]

I really wish I hadn't clicked on the Big Lick link. The pleasure horse video is truly awful, but the Big Lick one haunts me. I cannot fathom the 'why' for either.

 

[Wizpopagain]

Simply horrible and so unnatural

 

[paddy555]

I keep getting US breeders in my feeds trying to justify it and saying it’s all “natural” there’s just how they move by showing clips of when foals slow up in slow motion. Too much money not enough sense.

I'm sure barrel racing is not without it's faults but I guess they too are quarter horses as are cutting horses and they don't move like that. Barrel racers look barely under control as they leave the collecting ring at a gallop. Working horses out in the "wild west" IRL would never keep up with the cattle they were driving at that speed.

 

[Gloi]

Working horses out in the "wild west" IRL would never keep up with the cattle they were driving at that speed.

Don't you realise these are specialist horses for use on a tortoise drive?

 

[Widgeon]

Barrel racers look barely under control as they leave the collecting ring at a gallop.

While I am not 100% on board with the ethics of barrel racing, I do think it's kind of a fascinating sport - I'm not sure the horses are "under control" in the conventional sense of the rider telling the horse what to do. My impression is that a good barrel horse knows the patterns and would produce a pretty good run with a stuffed monkey on top, and the rider is there to fine tune it / urge them on a bit more. I suppose a lot of cow related work is like that though, the horse has to know its job inside out without the rider having to micro manage.

 

[Snowfilly]

While I am not 100% on board with the ethics of barrel racing, I do think it's kind of a fascinating sport - I'm not sure the horses are "under control" in the conventional sense of the rider telling the horse what to do. My impression is that a good barrel horse knows the patterns and would produce a pretty good run with a stuffed monkey on top, and the rider is there to fine tune it / urge them on a bit more. I suppose a lot of cow related work is like that though, the horse has to know its job inside out without the rider having to micro manage.

There was a clip I saw a while back of a barrel horse running the pattern loose after the rider fell at the first turn and he managed it very well indeed.

You’re definitely meant to be able to just sit on a good cow horse, you point out the cow you want, the horse gets it and you stay out the way. There’s pics of some high level riders riding with folded arms or hands on their thighs to show off, it’s impressive.

 

[SEL]

There was a clip I saw a while back of a barrel horse running the pattern loose after the rider fell at the first turn and he managed it very well indeed.

You’re definitely meant to be able to just sit on a good cow horse, you point out the cow you want, the horse gets it and you stay out the way. There’s pics of some high level riders riding with folded arms or hands on their thighs to show off, it’s impressive.

I sat on one in Australia and he made me look like I knew how to cut cows! Obviously that was the plan but it was how fast he moved that surprised me. Stock saddles are great for keeping a rider in the saddle

 

[Widgeon]

Don't you realise these are specialist horses for use on a tortoise drive?

snort

 

[Snowfilly]

I sat on one in Australia and he made me look like I knew how to cut cows! Obviously that was the plan but it was how fast he moved that surprised me. Stock saddles are great for keeping a rider in the saddle

I’ve always thought it’d be fun to try and sit on one! Like how I’d like to sit on a schoolmaster who does tempis and passage from ground commands just so I could feel the movement. Get on, hold on, shut up.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

I sat on one in Australia and he made me look like I knew how to cut cows! Obviously that was the plan but it was how fast he moved that surprised me. Stock saddles are great for keeping a rider in the saddle

I would love to do this, I am SO jealous!! The cow horses are fantastic animals, and despite lots of people saying 'they do it on their own as foals' re: many horse sports, they are the only horses I have genuinely seen do a version of it as a month old foal.