The Xmas Furry
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To echo..... update?
WWYD -Livery Issues
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AmyMay
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dorsetladette
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Sorry will update after the weekend. So for the radio silence x
Steerpike
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I hope you got this sorted
9tails
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On tenterhooks over here!
dorsetladette
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Sorry everyone. Its been a it of a nightmare weekend as you can imagine.
Polo's mum - I shall write you a £5 cheque if you PM me your address LOL its been like a soap opera - and we all know they never have a happy ending.
The list of excuses are as long as my arm.
Friday night I was adamant if pony was still there on Saturday morning she was going to be moved to a friends yard (in a stable) and sold cheaply with profits split between us. I received a message to say I would receive hay money and transport was being arranged or over the weekend. Asked an exact time - got no reply.
Saturday morning friend rang to say spare stable was now taken up with lame companion pony(abscess) and understandably she didn't want livery mare in her fields. (Gutted is an understatement).
Received text to say new field now needs pipe work (I'm assuming drainage as last excuse was ditches) doing so won't be ready for another week. message said she was looking for somewhere temporary and pony would definitely be going Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.
Sunday lunchtime arrived and still pony was stood in the field. So I did the 50 mile round trip to her house - no answer, but was watched by the neighbours. Went to the pub in the village that I've been told she works at and no sign of her there either. I sat in the car park for a good 20 mins and then popped back in to 'use the loo' (very non covid I know) but didn't see any sign of livery there. Its a tiny pub with no garden so I can't dump pony there - I even asked if there was outside seating before I mentioned livery.
So, I'm no further on than Thursday I'm afraid but it really isn't for the want of trying. In fairness to the mare - she hasn't broken anything since friday (touch wood) but god the place looks like a demolition site.
I really wanted to come back and tell you all that she'd gone one way or another and I feel completely defeated by it all. I don't think the stars are aligned in my favour at all.
I know the excuses are just a delaying tactic and have delayed my threat to 'dispose' of the mare.
I've discussed with friend that if livery is still here once her companion pony's abscess is looking better that we could 'swap' livery with companion as my ground is much dryer than friends fields so more suitable for turn out with poultice. So I still have a plan its just been delayed slightly.
Mare has really bad thrush. I haven't checked her feet but you can smell it. Should I treat it? (cleaning and a bit of iodine won't cost alot) just thinking if she does end up mine/friends I'd have to treat it anyway.
Polo's mum - I shall write you a £5 cheque if you PM me your address LOL its been like a soap opera - and we all know they never have a happy ending.
The list of excuses are as long as my arm.
Friday night I was adamant if pony was still there on Saturday morning she was going to be moved to a friends yard (in a stable) and sold cheaply with profits split between us. I received a message to say I would receive hay money and transport was being arranged or over the weekend. Asked an exact time - got no reply.
Saturday morning friend rang to say spare stable was now taken up with lame companion pony(abscess) and understandably she didn't want livery mare in her fields. (Gutted is an understatement).
Received text to say new field now needs pipe work (I'm assuming drainage as last excuse was ditches) doing so won't be ready for another week. message said she was looking for somewhere temporary and pony would definitely be going Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.
Sunday lunchtime arrived and still pony was stood in the field. So I did the 50 mile round trip to her house - no answer, but was watched by the neighbours. Went to the pub in the village that I've been told she works at and no sign of her there either. I sat in the car park for a good 20 mins and then popped back in to 'use the loo' (very non covid I know) but didn't see any sign of livery there. Its a tiny pub with no garden so I can't dump pony there - I even asked if there was outside seating before I mentioned livery.
So, I'm no further on than Thursday I'm afraid but it really isn't for the want of trying. In fairness to the mare - she hasn't broken anything since friday (touch wood) but god the place looks like a demolition site.
I really wanted to come back and tell you all that she'd gone one way or another and I feel completely defeated by it all. I don't think the stars are aligned in my favour at all.
I know the excuses are just a delaying tactic and have delayed my threat to 'dispose' of the mare.
I've discussed with friend that if livery is still here once her companion pony's abscess is looking better that we could 'swap' livery with companion as my ground is much dryer than friends fields so more suitable for turn out with poultice. So I still have a plan its just been delayed slightly.
Mare has really bad thrush. I haven't checked her feet but you can smell it. Should I treat it? (cleaning and a bit of iodine won't cost alot) just thinking if she does end up mine/friends I'd have to treat it anyway.
Meowy Catkin
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Has the time on the abandonment notice passed?
Can you now claim ownership?
Could you write up an ad for her?
Can you now claim ownership?
Could you write up an ad for her?
dorsetladette
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Yes abandonment notice ended Wednesday.
ihatework
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So when did you issue abandonment and has that period now completed?
Any sales (possibly not due to Covid) you could take her to?
Any sales (possibly not due to Covid) you could take her to?
Meowy Catkin
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OK, so she legally belongs to you now.
I would make sure the paperwork is all in order, treat the thrush and advertise her.
I would make sure the paperwork is all in order, treat the thrush and advertise her.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I think you probably legally have to treat the thrush. And as the abandonment period is now up either sell her or take her to the abattoir.
ihatework
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Ok, I’d be taking some quick legal advice (BHS) just to confirm you are legally entitled. Do you have a passport for the horse? You might need to obtain one.
I’d then sell the horse.
I’d send the owner the advert and if they want her they can buy her off you.
Meowy Catkin
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I just keep thinking that if I had my horse somewhere where the lad owner had issued an abandonment notice and I had somewhere to put the horse (albeit somewhere that needs drainage work) I would have moved the horse pronto and worked out everything else later. I would not want my horse taken away. So I can only conclude that she doesn't think that you will actually take ownership and that it is all an empty threat. Does this other field even exist?
I really think the best you can do now is to find her a much better home, one that actually cares about her and doesn't abandon her with the YO would be a huge blimin' improvement!
I really think the best you can do now is to find her a much better home, one that actually cares about her and doesn't abandon her with the YO would be a huge blimin' improvement!
sharni
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why cant you just take it too her house and tie it up at the gate ? or ring the local hunt and get it shot and taken away, i've never been asked for a passport when our local knackerman has called to pts my old horses.
dorsetladette
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I don't have a passport for the horse.
I let my membership lapse, but will sort later and give BHS a call.
dorsetladette
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I don't think the 'new' place exists TBH
In all honesty I would prefer the horse not to end up dead. (I know that's what I threatened) My lorry is not on the road at the moment so taking horse to her house would cost me to either hire a box or transport.
chaps89
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If the abandonment process has been followed correctly as per the BHS link already given on this thread I would be advertising the horse honestly.
As to whether I advertised as free or for an amount to cover the cost of outstanding hay bill/fence repairs would be based on what the info in that link says, but my feeling is ownership is now technically transferred to you as horse has been abandoned you can charge what you want.
Therefore I'd be getting up an ad on FB and preloved and getting her moved on pronto, ensuring new owner is aware of the background.
Current owner has had her chance, so long as correct process has been followed I wouldn't be pandering to her any longer.
Having her PTS would cost you unfortunately but may still be cheaper than any further damages she causes, not the horses fault and a sad ending but equally once she's gone she won't know any different anyway.
Eta- I really feel for you OP, sorry you have to deal with this (but time to get tough, you'll be alot happier for it once she's gone!)
As to whether I advertised as free or for an amount to cover the cost of outstanding hay bill/fence repairs would be based on what the info in that link says, but my feeling is ownership is now technically transferred to you as horse has been abandoned you can charge what you want.
Therefore I'd be getting up an ad on FB and preloved and getting her moved on pronto, ensuring new owner is aware of the background.
Current owner has had her chance, so long as correct process has been followed I wouldn't be pandering to her any longer.
Having her PTS would cost you unfortunately but may still be cheaper than any further damages she causes, not the horses fault and a sad ending but equally once she's gone she won't know any different anyway.
Eta- I really feel for you OP, sorry you have to deal with this (but time to get tough, you'll be alot happier for it once she's gone!)
9tails
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Horse is now yours. Ignore any and all attempts that your previous livery makes to contact you. It would be really good if you can "hide" her at the other place with the stable until you've sorted a new passport, then sell on.
sharni
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FB advert preloved any where free sell it cheap and quickly. i must say I don't get the feeling that you are committed to getting shut of the horse if it had been on my place it certainly wouldn't still be even if i had to hire a trailer or box and take it to the owners house or having it shot. it would have been gone by now, no messing.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I think the op is definitely committed to getting rid Sharni, hence the abandonment notice..... ?
PinkvSantaboots
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What a nightmare I really feel for you similar thing happened to a neighbour I even warned her the girl was an absolute idiot and not to give her livery.
I would do an advert for the pony even if it's a low price to cover your costs and damage and try and get her gone asap, I really understand you not wanting to shoot her I wouldn't be able to do it either, it's not as easy as it sounds especially as it's healthy if she had major issues that's different totally.
I would do an advert for the pony even if it's a low price to cover your costs and damage and try and get her gone asap, I really understand you not wanting to shoot her I wouldn't be able to do it either, it's not as easy as it sounds especially as it's healthy if she had major issues that's different totally.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
As the pony is on your land, you have a legal (and moral, imho) duty to treat her feet. As you say a bit of iodine won't break the bank. If you followed the abandonment process corectly and haven't agreed now to keep the pony any longer in texts/emails, pony is now yours. I would get an ad for her on Facebook asap, making sure that the former owner knows about it and let her go as soon as you can.
The Xmas Furry
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OP, pop on free selling pages an ad, have given you an idea brlow:
For sale, purple 6ft mare aged approx ?yrs.
Only selling as have had abandoned on my land and legal process now completed.
Good to catch and lead. No idea about anything else, sorry. (No need to add anything else unless you know she is ok or good to do it)
Passport to be applied for (speak to purchasers, they might be happy to take without, even if against the law)
Best offer over £100 secures. Collection required as soon as possible. Delivery not available.
No loans or staged payments.
Phone 123456.
Might make the owner remove asap if she sees it!
For sale, purple 6ft mare aged approx ?yrs.
Only selling as have had abandoned on my land and legal process now completed.
Good to catch and lead. No idea about anything else, sorry. (No need to add anything else unless you know she is ok or good to do it)
Passport to be applied for (speak to purchasers, they might be happy to take without, even if against the law)
Best offer over £100 secures. Collection required as soon as possible. Delivery not available.
No loans or staged payments.
Phone 123456.
Might make the owner remove asap if she sees it!
meleeka
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Absolutely agree with this. I bet you’ll have loads of takers. You could of course say something along the lines of “pony free to a good home provided hay bill is paid” so you then don’t have to obtain a passport. My bet is a lot of people will be happy to get the passport themselves and have it without.
Then block the woman’s number and never make the same mistake again.
dorsetladette
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Sharni I am very much committed to 'getting rid' and when I'm not looking at the mare I am as committed as you sound you would be in your comment, but at the end of the day she is a living breathing creature and its not her fault.
The Xmas Furry
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I wouldn't advertise as free.
If anyone asks why its 100 or whatever you ask, you can say that amount is just to cover your costs in full grass livery and feeding etc whilst sorting out the abandonment.
Edited to add, I bet if you stuck that up all over you local free selling pages OP, the pony will be gone within a couple of days.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I’d send the owner a message along the lines of ‘abandonment notice is now served, mare is now legally mine, thank you and goodbye’.
dorsetladette
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I'm going to contact the BHS tonight just make sure I have done everything I need to correctly (I think I have) and then write an advert to rehome covering the cost of keep while 'in my care'
AmyMay
Situation normal
Will there be anyone ate the BHS tonight?
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Yes, this. Let the former owner know that her bluff has been called and that she is out of the loop now.
It may chivvy her to come and pick the mare up, but assume that it won‘t. Crack on with getting an ad up and the pony gone.