Xmas day and livery...

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If you were on DIY livery would you expect to do a deal with someone (other diy livery) agreeing for them to turn out, muck out, bring in , and feed and hay their two horses on Xmas day?!

I mean each to their own and I know not everyone celebrates Xmas, but I thought it was a bit rude(perhaps not right word) to even bring up the idea let alone go along and assume it would be done without checking.

Reason being, other person brought subject up of Xmas day and suggested I basically looked after her 2 horses aswell as my own on Xmas day so they could basically get the day off Scott free. I'm happy to 'help' ie: put on field or bring in, but I thought it was a bit of p*** take to suggest in the first place! At every yard I've been at, on Xmas day it's up to you what you do with your horse unless your on full livery.

Just a little rant. I then had to compose some form of an explanation as to why I certainly wouldn't be looking after another two let alone my boy. We then agreed about the TO & BI and I replied in text with 'great' which obviously didn't go through as got a rather snotty text saying something along the lines of 'if your not happy...' .

I mean really?!

Had to get that off my chest
 

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bit cheeky expediting it without asking really..

I won't be doing my boy tomorrow - my YO is but I wouldn't feel comfortable going up as they lie on site
 

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Hmmm.. what is the deal there?! from what it sounds like she is expecting you to do her 2 horses for no return? :confused:

Some people baffle me...
 

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Very cheeky to expect on any day if you're DIY TBH ;)

We've done a deal with YO so were doing morning duties (feed, rug, chuck out) and shell do evening (feed, rug, bring in). I think that's gd if you can do something similar.
 

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I have a deal that works for both me and my friend, I do xmas and she does new year, she has kids and I enjoy going out with my friend so works well for both but certainly wouldn't be doing xmas for someone else as just another day!
 

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Thank god , I was beginning to think I was bring unreasonable.

I mean it's not like I don't have family to see or a dinner to cook aswell! :p
 

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very cheeky
i'm on a small yard and am doing a lot tomorrow (i don't have kids and not really bothered ) we will either put out/bring in for each other or hang the occaisional hay net (poor grazzing) but i'd certainly not expect to sit at home and let others do all mucking out ,put out/in etc and would tell others to get stuffed if they asked me
 

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I have my own yard but when I've been on a livery yard before I've had arrangements where someone turns and other person brings in, but we've always mucked our own out which ever 'shift' we were doing.
 

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I share duties with YO on the day, I give hers a bit of breakfast and do mine then she comes up later and mucks hers out and feeds everything including mine then goes home and I go back in the evening when I leave my parents and feed everything again and skip out :)
 

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I'm happy to do one end of the day . I'm certainly not sifting through piles of poop thats not even from my horse! I think she offered to do boxing day however I think there's a bit of a difference there!
 

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I wouldn't mind helping someone out by turning out or bringing in, but not do the whole lot, especially if it's only so that person could have a lie etc.

Horses are for all year, not for when you pick and choose. Personally I would have said no but that's because I've been there with people like that and you get no thanks for it!
 

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Our yard owner offers services at a higher rate xmas and boxing day.
Most people only have a TO or BI on those days.
There is only one day each year we are left to sort ourselves out and that is New Years day, most people agree on TO or BI for each other but generally everyone mucks out their own unless agreed with another livery where i would imagine they would be paid for doing so
 

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I have negotiated Xmas day with a fellow livery. I don't see the negotiation as a problem as it means we both only have to do a half day. Would be annoyed if I had to do all of her day though unless I owed a favour!
 

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a fellow livery is turning my 3 out in the morning with hers, 1 rug change and 2 with turnout rugs to go on, 1 to be unbandaged on 4 legs so it's alot of 'trouble' for her and i really appreciate what she's doing but in return i'm bringing her boy in and putting him to bed for the night. i'm also doing another liverys pony, he's so easy to do and very hard to resist, his owner is away so i said i'd do him for her and that includes mucking out and everything else that goes with it. i don't mind and glad i could help her out as i know she would help me out.
i also have 3 kids to share xmas with and they understand i have to do the horses and also 2 others and they are happy with that. my OH is also going to come and give me a hand so it doesn't take too long.

i wouldn't expect someone to do my horses though, the fellow livery above (who's turning mine out) asked if i would be able to bring hers in in return of turning mine out. the other person didn't ask and was going to see if the YO would do it for her but i told her not to worry.
 

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I'm happy to do one end of the day . I'm certainly not sifting through piles of poop thats not even from my horse! I think she offered to do boxing day however I think there's a bit of a difference there!

I don't see your problem - she asked and offered a deal it wasn't a good deal for you and you said no - the end. What's the point of getting so het up about it?
 

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I think she was a bit rude tbh. I can understand just bringing in/turning out for them and then them doing the same for you, but to ask you to do them both, completely is slightly taking the P.

If it was me, i'd be happy to help out a bit but not completely do someone else's horses unless they asked way in advance and it was for good reason (ie they were away etc).

As you said, you do have your own life and its christmas for you as well as her, she seems to have forgotten that!
 

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I would expect tit for tat ie if you do morning she does evening or visa versa or perhaps you do crimbo and she does 1 Jan. There has to be some come back for DIYs surely. If I was stuck I would have a chat with other liveries and see how the land lies but NEVER would I just say " you can do this can't you"!!

Perhaps you can get payback later in the year when you are on holos? Bit late to be having this conversation though!
 

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If it was taken for granted (unless it was my job) that I would be doing anything then it's the best way to ensure that I won't be!

We always used to share TO, BI duties with fellow liveries as do most people.

Me? "Going to do the horses" was the best, and most valid reason on earth to get away from Christmas mayhem for a bit of peace and quiet.
 

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I have been happy to do mornings for others in return for the evening stables done in return, when DIY works well that sort of mucking in and out is helpfull to everyone :)

However, while I am always happy to help if asked, I will point blank refuse to do something demanded of me- if someone wants a favour they had better well ask nicely!
 

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Some people have an interesting perspective on their responsibilities lol! My two are both on full livery and my YO carries on as normal on Xmas Day and I have a small child so she wasn't really expecting to see me at all. However, in the spirit of Christmas etc, my daughter and I both toddled up to the yard this morning, I mucked out and my daughter filled up water buckets. I wanted to see my horses and I felt I wanted to help YO have an easier day too. Plus I'm a bit sad and quite like mucking out, especially when it's instead of peeling potatoes lol!!
 

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cheeky!

i turned out our yard this morning and mucked out ll the bedds before i went to work (4 beds and i was in work at 10!)

Didnt mind in the slightest as my YO's are so lovely it was the least i can do for them :)
 

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My friend checks my 3 every morning (they live out) and i bring hers in every night, change rugs feed etc... (its all prepared for me)... She has 2 young children so i offered to do both morning and eve today... She decided to come up this morning and I did my usual this eve. Our agreement works really well, and to top things she evn bought me a nice Christmas present to say thank you for helping out so much. My YO is just as fantastic and is checking ponies for me tomorrow so I dont need to go up and can spend the day with my nephew. It works so well when everyone is willing to help eachother the way we do... :)

Bit cheeky though if its all one way...
 
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