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Sossigpoker

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There used to be a few at my last yard who always did it, making people feel uncomfortable with their looks, criticism of riding, 😳
I now share a yard with two dressage riders (mum and daughter). One of them was a national champion at quite a high level a few years back. Yet they don't make me feel uncomfortable to ride in front of then even though I ride like a sack of spuds by comparison!

Why can't more people be like that ?
 

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I've been in a few yards and I've never experienced nasty cliques and gossip that other people talk about, so unless I've just been lucky I don't think this happens everywhere. I did once walk round a corner and the two people chatting stopped and looked embarrassed, so it didn't take a genius to work out who they were talking about. That yard was odd in other ways and I left soon after. The best yards seem to have strong yard owners with firm rules.
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I have just remembered a rather odd experience I had at a very large livery yard somewhere in Staffordshire a few years back.

I had reared a young ID filly over here for 3 years for friends who lived in the UK. When she was ready for breaking I sent her over to them to stay in this livery yard near where they lived.

A couple of months later I went over to visit and see how 'my' filly was settling in. While there my friend took me into the yard tea room that was packed full of liveries all chatting away. The room fell silent the moment we walked in. As is the usual Irish fashion I called out a cheery 'Hi how are you all, beautiful morning out there for riding' .......almost zero response!😅 A couple of begrudgingly muttered Hi's and that was it.

As we left the room much excited and enthusiastic chatter continued again behind us. My friend assured me that was the normal cold response to any new face on the yard. I tried again with the livery alongside their's. Remarked on what a beautiful horse she had as she led it out of the stable (it really was a very handsome horse) she grunted a brief reply I couldn't even hear!☺️

Attempt number three at polite interaction with Staffordshire livery yard natives. Friend introduced me to another livery grooming a young horse that had recently come over from Ireland. I asked which part of Ireland horse from, breeding, age and all the usual interested questions. Monosyllabic answers muttered into their chest, at which point I gave up on the whole livery yard ethos.!😱

Perhaps it was me, maybe the Irish zest for greeting stranger's jarred. Maybe they just don't like the Irish, who knows🤷 Either way my friends soon moved on to keeping their horse at home, I don't blame them, fancy facing that misery every day!😅
 

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I do stay on the outskirts of things I am polite to all but I don't engage in any chit chat, I suspect folk think I am a bit stand offish me and my horse don't cause any bother we just do our own thing which on the plus side is good because you don't get involved but sometimes you can also feel a bit of an outsider, despite been on the place the longest of all but maybe that is why I have kept things that way. Rule of thumb unless anything affects me or my horse I don't take up on it if someone said so and so had done this I have no problem in my Yorkshire way of just saying "now't to do with me and walking away".
 

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When I was faced with losing my own place and moving into livery last year, threads like this worried me to the point of losing sleep. Since then, I've been in three different barns in the management of 2 different people in the yard where I am now, and another big yard I went to in order to get herd turnout for a while, and I found the same as I found thirty 32 years previously, that not every yard has bitchy. cliques in them . So I would just reassure people who might be making the same move some time in the future not to worry too much about it, it definitely isn't all yards.

That doesn't help the OP, of course, who has started two threads now a month apart about this. I think my advice about that yard would be to leave if the advice you were given on the first thread hasn't worked.
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Answer any comments meant to draw you into unkindness about someone behind their back with a positive, complimentary comment about whoever it is they're trying to engage in putting down and bad mouthing, even just something innocuous like, "I really like that new turnout rug they're just got, I'll have to ask them what make it is", and they'll move on and to try to get some mean and miserable company elsewhere.

YCBM, it's regional/ area based, ime. How nice or unpleasant (unhappy) people are. Put happy, comfortable, satisfied people together with plenty of resources and they'll all get along. Put dissatisfied, struggling, competing people together and they rip one another apart for any and every reason they can discover or invent.
 
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I find a lot of the ones causing issues are the jealous ones. Every yard will have some form of “yard gossip”, people tend to come to me and tell me all their woes for some reason, but by the time I’ve finished filling my haynets I’ve forgotten what they told me 🤣

The yard I have just left was the worst for gossipers, YM being the worst one. Nice as pie to your face and twisting the knife as soon as you walked away. I always find it’s the ones who have too many horses with lots of problems that tend to like to turn the rumour mill…personal experience of course.

I tend to reply as BB does “oh wow” or “oh gosh really” or “no way!” Tend to be my shut down phrases
 

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I think it is resources and energy based. I have generally found 7 day part or full livery to be pretty friendly. DIY where people share space for tools / storage / field chores etc be much more gossipy / bitchy.
 

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Well I’ve been on a few yards - sometimes diy or part, more recently full livery. There have been liveries I haven’t gelled with but on the whole, everyone has been ok. The worst people have been he YOs - always bonkers, absolute fruit loops and the YMs - always on a power trip and changing the rules depending on how much in favour you are (never for me!). My last YM took great delight in bitching non-stop with her cronies about how rubbish me and my horse were. I’m on a diy yard now, just a small yard of 8. We all get on and help each other out. No bitching. Happy days!
 
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livery yards can be toxic environments that remind me of school playgrounds. I think it’s usually jealousy bit too much time on their hands. I am always shocked the amount of equestrians that don’t work, and slightly jealous of that 😂. Overall though I find ignorance is bliss , I am friendly but just not quite friendly or exiting enough to gossip about. I also don’t ask their advice as I have a number of people I trust for advice and stick to them.

I find wherever I’ve been there’s always at least a couple of women who don’t like one another and seem to be in some kind of competition, Slightly reminds me of herd dynamics.
 
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