Yard issue. Just dont know what to do

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Long story but here goes.
Ive got two mares on a DIY yard, YO isnt horsey, now theres 2 differnt yards a main yard and a americian style barn with 3 small stables. Now another livery was getting another horse and was planning to put it in the american barn with my mare but a another livery left leaving a stable spare on the main yard so the other livery wants this stable leaving my mare whos had colic, box walks, doesnt eat and stresses in the barn on her own. She cant be left out as theres no other horses to go out with her and she jumps out the field.
BUT one of her horses has gone away for a month or so and the stable that we argued over is stood empty
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Now my mare is stressing out so i took drastic action and moved her round before she had colic again (vet said high risk) now the other livery thinks im only in there for a month then my mare is going back in the barn alone which i will not do as its more stress for her. But i can see a aproaching war so i want to make the YO understand colic can be fatal but he doesnt seem to believe it!
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I cant move as nowhere locally is cheap enough and stressing out the mare even more by moving her. So what do i do if YO asks me to move back to the barn
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Just because this livery doesnt want her horse round there with mine
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Help? Im totally confused about what to do!
 
Not sure if ive understood above correctly, read and re-read it but am just wondering if your other mare could go in the barn with the stressy one? Then both of yours would be together and wouldnt that be easier for you with regards to the care of them? I agree it would be all out war if you refuse to leave the stable which the other person thinks you ar only renting for a short time. You need to speak sensibly to the other person and maybe appeal to their compassionate site with regard to the colic issue if you are insistent on staying in the stable on the main yard. Where does your other mare live at the moment? Its a difficult one as it could totally change the atmosphere at your yard and you may in the end feel like moving anyway as it could turn very unpleasant long term.
 
Oh sorry forgot to put!!
My other mare is too big for the small stables in barn and shes on the main yard. Also she cant live out as she gets grumpy, sore & lame!

Trust me the atmostphere couldnt get much worse, everyone hates each other its awful but at the end of the day im there to do the horses
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Move your other horse into the barn to be with the your mare or put them out in the field together, trying to pinch another liveries stable when there is no need is likely to cause trouble.
The problem is easily solveable but I'm guessing the stables not in the barn are nicer or bigger or something and this is why you don't want to move your other horse in with your mare.
Personally I think expecting others to help you out when you can solve the issue yourself isn't going to go down very well with your YO or other liveries.
 
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How big is the big mare and how big are the stables?

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Dont know measurements, but ive taken her round there to see and she could barely turn around so its a definate no-no
 
The problem is, you've pinched her stable. She's arranged with the YO to have that one, so you can't really just take it. With hindsight maybe you needed to have yourself first on the waiting list for a box on the outside yard, as there are only 3 small stables in the barn.
Now, well unless the YO can help you, what else can you do but move? You've got to get your poorly mare stabled with company.
 
Sounds like you will have to keep the mares in separate places until a stable comes free on the main yard so they can be together later. Personally, I couldnt be on a yard where it was so unpleasant and by doing what you have and if you wont move back then your only making things worse. It wouldnt be very nice for you if you went to the yard one morning and found your horse had moved house without your knowledge. I couldnt stay at a yard like that, maybe you could try harder to find a better place. It cant make it an enjoyable time when your there when most of us go to be with our horses to forget our problems. Theres enough stress in our lives without creating it!
 
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Move your other horse into the barn to be with the your mare or put them out in the field together, trying to pinch another liveries stable when there is no need is likely to cause trouble.
The problem is easily solveable but I'm guessing the stables not in the barn are nicer or bigger or something and this is why you don't want to move your other horse in with your mare.
Personally I think expecting others to help you out when you can solve the issue yourself isn't going to go down very well with your YO or other liveries.

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Yes but your solution isnt a solution i have no problems with the barn, but by putting my bigger mare in there it would be comprimising her health because i dont think anyone on here would happily put large horse in a tiny stable that the horse cant turn around in or lie down comfortably??
When the other liverys horse is a welsh a ..
 
Didnt I read a vittually identical thread here the other day? Was that yours? if not it had some good advice on so might be worth searching for

Unless you put your name down for the vacating stable when the other liivery handed their notice in I dont think you can do much more, the YO obviously is not going to grasp the colic problem so your only real choice is to try to appeal to the better nature of one of the other liveries and risk upsetting people in the process or you could move yards

If the barn is tucked away from the action then people may be reluctant to bring their horse round to keep your mare company (and at the end of the day its not anyone elses responsibility to keep your mare occupied...) if you get someone to come round then skip off to the main yard they might be understandably annoyed at THEIR horse beng left alone

Its not a great situation to be in and I think your options are limited
 
Nobody at the yard actually talks at the mo, and i was meant to be next on the waiting list!!!
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But shes done what shes always done and sweet talked YO!
Moving is impossible for me at the mo until at least after xmas and im putting my horse first for once ive never created any trouble before!
 
"other livery thinks im only in there for a month then my mare is going back in the barn alone which i will not do as its more stress for her"

so you've basically pinched some one else's stable and you haven't informed them of this yet? If I was that livery I would be very, very angry.

"I cant move as nowhere locally is cheap enough and stressing out the mare even more by moving her. So what do i do if YO asks me to move back to the barn"

You can't nick stables. I can't see your YO simply giving in to the argument 'my horse needs it more'. Why didn't you move her out of the barn and onto the yard with your other mare when you had the chance?

"Just because this livery doesnt want her horse round there with mine"

Your horse isn't her problem. I think you need to move yards to a place where your mare's stressy behaviour can be accomodated. I hate to sound negative but I can see the mother and father of all arguments blowing up when this other livery returns unless you can find a solution that accomodates everyone. And it doesn't sound like this is doable the way things are at the moment. Unless you keep your fingers crossed this other livery decides not to return.
 
Hi MissyMooMare,

My suggestion is, friend, to just turn them out in a field.

They will sort themselves out. That's wot horses do. Trust me!

(And there's me, left forum cos of crap from ...'those who know best') There we go.

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Unless you keep your fingers crossed this other livery decides not to return.

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Shes already got 2 horses there and wants to buy a 3rd. Buut she hasnt got the horse yet and unless shes phsycic how would she know other livery was leaving and get in there first as they didnt speak?
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OK, just read the above post. As your horse has genuine health reasons that mean she needs that stable has the YO explained why it didn't go to you? Did they confirm you wer enext on the list if a stable came up? Why can't you move until after Xmas? I appreciate moving is stressful for a horse but might it not be better for her in the long run if at the end of the move she had compnay, rather than leaving on her own for another six weeks at least, unitl you are in a position to leave? Sorry, that's a lot of questions!
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Surely the other livery is paying her rent while she is away so the stable is still hers?

I am surprised that no one challenged your move to the empty stable
 
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There do seem to be very, very, few on-going conditions where being out isn't the best option. Are you really sure that you can't just turn your two out tgether for a while? There are lots of people here with oldies (I think your other one is an oldie?) happily living out at grass.
 
Rug both your horses up well and leave them out with ad lib hay or haylage. You may well be surprised just how well they do being out.
 
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Trust me the atmostphere couldnt get much worse, everyone hates each other its awful but at the end of the day im there to do the horses
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You have the following choices:

1. Speak to the other livery and explain your issues so that she will either move her horse or you can move yours.

2. Move yards.

3. Do nothing and deal with the consequences of doing nothing.

Those are your choices I'm afraid. Personally, I would move and try and save a little in other areas of my life to cope with the slightly higher cost elsewhere. Horses take up too much time and too much money to not be enjoying it or putting up with an awful atmosphere.
 
I would be really annoyed if you stole my stable! But on the other hand i wouldn't want your horse to suffer.But you should talk to her, not just take the stable over that is just rude.
 
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I cant move as nowhere locally is cheap enough and stressing out the mare even more by moving her. So what do i do if YO asks me to move back to the barn
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This one bugs me a bit. Stressing out even more than being stressed enough to cause colic? Sorry, i'd take the risk and keep my horse happy. If the stable has been allocated elsewhere your problem is with the YO, not the other horse owner. So why punish them? You can't just stay there, you could get your marching orders for being uncooperative.
And really, if this yard is so much cheaper than everywhere else, and you can't afford the 'normal' livery prices, perhaps grass livery or one horse is a more realistic option? We owe it to these horses to keep them as happy as we can, if they are not happy in the situation you are in then change, but not by demanding others do as you ask! Sitting down with the other owners and calmly explaining your worries might find a better solution than anything this forum could offer....
 
I agree you need to talk to them. I'm sure there would be someone on the yard willing to move into the barn even if only temporarily. Are there any other horses turned out at night? If so then you could alternate your horses in your one main stable so that one is in during the day and one at night.
Otherwise I think moving is the best option.
 
Time to think out of the box (excuse the pun).

What is the quality of stabling in the barn, how are the loose boxes manufactured? Could two small boxes be converted to one big one large enough to accomodate your bigger horse?

It doesn't sound like anybody else is keen to be in this barn so maybe put it to your YO that if the conversion is easy and cost neutral you could solve everybody's problems in one go
 
Ok, if I was the yard manager I would get 2 of the smaller sized horses stabled on the main yard and put them in the barn stables as well as one other. Problem solved.

Then your 2 can hopefully be stabled next to one another on the main yard which makes sense and the new horse can go on the main yard too. Unfortunately not every person in your yard would prob agree with this arrangement but you can't please all the people all the time, and a horse shouldn't be left to stress on its own, I think a horses happiness and welfare should come first.

It shouldn't be your worry, rather your yard owner should be sorting this out and try to accommodate most people.

Good luck!
 
By your behaviour I think its clear that the YO wont buy the colic story as it could seem that you jsut want to be in the 'nicer' stables

If your vet agrees re the colic ask them to write you a letter confirming that stress is the cause then go to your YO with it and try to reach a rational conclusion
 
If you don't get the YO to agree to your move being permanent, there is a very real risk that when the other livery returns, they will just move your horse into "your" stable in the smaller barn anyway. Surely that would be more stressful for your horse than you moving her and settling her yourself?

It sounds as though turning both your horses out is your best (if not ideal) option.
 
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