Youngster or not to younster?

hula

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Hi everyone,

I'm new and just thought I would post my idea up here to get some impartial advice, this is likely to be a long one so appologies in advance.

So from the start, I've ridden for 15 years, never having actually owned my own horse, but have loaned and ridden for other people and yards. I was into showjumping (unaff), riding problem horses and ponies and hacking. But had an accident 6 years ago in which I fell off got squashed between the horse and the school wall and then trampled leaving me with a broken nose, fractured cheek, dislocated right shoulder, broken collar bone, cracked ribs and muscular damage to my back (I do not blame the horse what so ever for this it was an accident). I was devostated and a week later hobbled back to the yard to see a couple of friends and the horse I fell from and to cheer myself up, at this point the yard owner came out, was rather rude and asked me why I was down. She then told me in no uncertain terms not to go down while I looked such a state and that it may put off customers from the school yard, then blamed my riding !!! As I was a bit deflated at the time I didn't stand up to her and didn't go down again, and lost all my confidence with riding and yards (silly I know).

A year later I started riding again at a riding school on a trusty confidence giving heavy cob (always had a soft spot for a big fluffy cob), I competed again on a small scale borrowing school horses/working liveries. However, my shoulder and back are never going to be the same.

Over the last year I havn't had any chance to ride at all as my life has been very busy, my partner however rides regularly at a hunting yard and has a very similar history to me, but has broken a couple of horses (with guidance). He has tried to encourage me for years to come out and ride with him on something quiet, but I just do not have the confidence, not only in my riding but with yards :( I know I'm silly.

We have toyed with the idea of getting a youngster, a cob, aged 6-18months, that we can bring on ourselves. The yard owner has told us we can have free keep (everything but hard feed) if we ever wanted a youngster and they would help us break it. Its something that we have talked about for years, and the idea is that the youngster would mainly for me to ride, for hacking a small scale dressage and jumping competitions, possibley to trundle along at the back of a hunt. We have found an 18month cob x filly that we are seeing at the weekend which has a gorgeous temperament, and although I am excited I am a little nervous and wonder if this is a good idea?

I am very confident with my feet on the ground and I got back in the saddle again a couple of nights ago at another riding school (very sore at the moment!) and I am planning to train my shoulder and back slowly over 6 months until I can ride out comfortably with my partner on a more livelier horse and possibley go to some very small competitions and possible hunt next year.

However in regard to breaking in when the time comes, is it something we should consider doing professionally or could we do it ourselves with very experienced guidance? I would love to be involved in this, however I have never broken a horse myself or been directly, but have watched several different yards going through the process.

We have chosen a cob due to their temperament and because I have such a soft spot for them and I would love to get the rewards from producing my own cob and this would give me a great deal of confidence back. And as I am now starting to have time to ride again this feels like the right time.

I know this is long winded but any opinions would greatly appreciated. I'm just a little apprehensive that this might be too much of a project.
 
Firstly, hello and welcome! :)

The problem with buying a youngster is that you can't be sure what their temperament is going to be like as an adult. Yes, you can get signs but I have known some very laid back youngsters who have made 'hot' adults, and most youngsters go through a 'Kevin' stage at one time or another!

Cobs are known for being great confidence givers but they don't always seem to know that themselves! Some of the most tricky horses I have ridden have been cobs so I wouldn't really say you were playing it safe by getting one.

The 'free livery' sounds great, but is this going to be an ongoing thing? Circumstances change and if this was not available would you still be able to keep your horse?

My opinion would be to look at something a little older, broken and with some life experience.. You could always get a youngster in a few years if you still wanted. Yes, you can build a great bond with a baby but in my opinion you can build just as strong a bond with an older horse.


Good luck with whatever you decide :)
 
Welcome!

Reading this you sound very unsure... why do something you are not 100% about? Every horse I have ever had has always been 100%. If I have any doubts I do not do something especially when it comes to horses.

With what you have gone through, I would rather try a cob that has been broken and schooled well with a proven background...

Good luck but I do hope you think about it a little more x
 
Thank you for your comments they have been very helpful to put things into perspective. Yes I suppose you are both right in regards to getting and older more experienced horse. However, from now until breaking (once I am fully strengthened up again) I have the pick of 5/6 horses to hack out, all very very different. But yes I agree not my own, I think I do just lack a little bit of confidence here are there and that maybe why I come across unsure. There is a possibility of looking for a part loan from now until the time of breaking. It certainly has made me think and got things into perspective :)
 
Hi and welcome.

Reading your post I personally would advise you to get as much riding experience you can and then look for an older horse who has a laid back outlook.

I myself have a serious back injury and now don't ride anymore. I saw a photo of myself taken when I returned to riding and it drummed home just how uneven and stiff I'd become as I was now sub conciously guarding my back.
To start a youngster you really should be totally relaxed and supple and quietly confident - I'm now one sided and stiff and if you have a legacy like me, an older horse will be less confused by mixed signals and more forgiving.
I'm absolutely fine to handle young horses on the ground and fortunately that's where my passion lies ( I breed sporthorses) but I don't break them in myself anymore.

Best wishes with whichever way you decide to go.
 
Firstly hello and welcome :D

Well it is a very lovely idea to bring on a youngster, one I have been toying with myself alot lately. My mare was 2 when we purchased her back in 1992 and she turned out to be the horse of a lifetime.

I am now on the lookout and have seen a few nice youngsters ranging from 6months upwards, its tempting, especially financially as its doable now.

Anyway, it sounds like you have had a rough time of it and to be frank your YO's behaviour sounded terrible, how awful. Anyway, moving away from that, if you have seen a nice youngster and have the support network then it could be a great consideration.
It sounds like you have the support there ready. And to be honest, if it does not work for you, you could always sell the filly on?

The idea of getting something nice and sane and safe and trained already seems like the better, more sensible option but sometimes it is worth doing something riskier or different as it can pay off.

I cannot answer for you really, you have to do what is right for you, you have the support there and it does not have to be set in stone. If you took on a youngster and found it was too much for you, you could just sell it on to someone else to bring on as I said. Anyway, I have rambled on quite enough, good luck with whatever you decide x
 
Thank you for more replies its really appreciated :) I've been down the yard this morning helping out and been speaking to the YO and annoying the life out of my partner (for a change!). We have decided to still go and see the filly tomorrow morning, and are still on the look out if this one doesn't turn out. However, my partner is now going to be the principle rider when the time comes, I will not be backing or breaking and will not be jumping aboard for quite some time after, but if she/he turns out to be quite the challenge or if cirumstances change then we will have to sell on.

Once I stop riding I lose my strength in back and shoulder which no other exercise seems to replicate (I'm an avid gym goer and try to run, in a fashion, 3 times a week), so the main thing is gradually building this back. I do agree with Chloe-V, my position is not what it was, and after too seeing a picture of me jumping was shocked at my jumping position! Yes I am 5'8'' and I was riding a 14.1hh borrowed (rather chunky and round) confidence giver but my god! This did get better over the course of 2/3 years last time, so I'm hoping it will this time, with much expensive sports physio. So I'm riding once a week doing "dressage" lessons until Christmas and increasing this afterwards. I use inverted commas as I've never been the most graceful! But my riding instructor ensures me that it will help me strengthen up for once I'm riding out again, and it will help me to become techincally better.

See if I have given up on horses and riding years ago I wouldn't be in the pickle! I just cannot seem to let go of it, and I get so much pleasure from it, and once my confidence comes back a little it makes me feel utterly free and floaty and la la la. I just hope my poor body will let me have many more years of enjoying my hobby because the minds still utterly dtermined lol!
 
What rhino said. Youngsters are not a great idea if you're not 100% prepared and ready for them. A nice older horse would be a wiser choice, in my opinion, for what it's worth.

Welcome to the forum. If your last paragraph in your last post is anything to go by, you'll fit right in to the madhouse :)
 
Hello and thanks :)

Yes unfortunatly I am a complete and utter nutcase where heart rules head for most of the time :rolleyes:

The youngster is not set in stone, and its not something I have taken lightly and I would be doing without the support around me and that I am very very lucky to have. I shall keep everyone updated.
 
Mwahaha that's the reason I have a home broken 5 year old and yearling in my field... And my eye on another :p. Like I say, we're all sectionable in here :rolleyes:
 
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