Your favourite dressage sires?

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Hey was wondering when looking for potential dressage youngsters, what breeding do you tend to look for that give offspring with excellent temperments as well as potential?
 
Florestan and Kostolany are two that immediately spring to mind as being known for producing ridable and talented horses. I'd also look out for anything by Breitling and Ehrentusch. Also Fidermark and Flemmingh.

Michellino has sired a huge number of very top GP horses, as has Jazz, but they are known for being super hot and NOT amateur rides. Some sires seem to through a small number of stars, and a lot of, well, ordinary or difficult. Gribaldi would be one of them. Personally I'd avoid Sandro Hit as direct sire. Dimaggio is super fashionable, he's had some nice horses. Also for Furst Heinrich and Bellissimo. Weltmeyer on the dams line can give good movement, but direct Weltmeyers are known for being tricky.
 
I would love a Gribaldi horse but cant afford one. :( Everyone I have seen has been talented.

For rideability I have heard the R line have exceptional temperaments but I havent had first hand experience of training one.

I also like the B line Hanovarians and have a Benetton Dream yearling who is proving to be very talented and intelligent, if a little head strong.:D
 
Every single Belissimo M offspring I have seen has been excellent! I would also kill for a Breitling, but not so many around relatively speaking. However fab temperament. Another sire I am a huge fan of is Rohdiamant :)

But remember the dam line is equally if not more important.
 
Going to go for the cliché and say Donnerhall, or to be more specific and less obvious I've had the amazing privilege of riding his son Donnerschlag and his progeny (Donnerwind, Dolomit, Donnerwerth and I get to spend a lot of time working with his 3-6 year olds :D)
Each one is so unmistakably a Donnerschlag foal - almost identical looks and built, same goofy personality and sheer trainability.
 
Hope not tempting fate!! But I've just looked at a gorgeous youngster out of a Breitling/Florestan Stallion by a Negro/Donnerhall mare - Exciting doesn't come close!!

I think this mix brings the best of all worlds, Breiltling/Florestan = rideability, and the mare brings a good 'can do' work ethic - fingers tightly crossed!!!

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Breitling has one of the highest hit rates in producing international standard progeny with the plus that they are very rideable. Had a relatively small number of offspring but the vast majority are top level performers.

Another with a good hit rate is Mooiman. He is 10th ranked stallion in Netherlands for offspring performance and that is with fewer than 300 foals on the ground, compared to Jazz (top-ranked) with over 3000 foals.
I'm probably biased as I've bred three by him now. Sadly lost this years filly to colitis/ruptured bowel but all three came out with quality movement and temperament.
I have a 5yo mare under saddle and, apart from the odd teenage tantrum, she is a joy to ride and train. Improvement on her Mum in movement and conformation (and Mum is no disgrace, KWPN inspectors really liked her when they assessed her), very athletic, fab natural balance, uphill, three good paces. Even my trainer went WOW the first time she saw her canter under saddle.
My yearling colt scored a high first at his foal futurity. Again fab temperament and movement. He got a nail in his foot this summer and needed surgery plus box rest. Everybody who has dealt with him has commented on his fantastic temperament and friendly nature. I hand walked him for 8 weeks and he is on the final week of turnout in a round pen before being allowed out fully - he has never needed even a whiff of sedative. I did hand walk him in a bridle but he happily goes in and out to the pen in a headcollar, has the odd boing but always controllable.
 
Having worked and trained with a couple of his offspring, I would say Jazz. I have one of his offspring at the moment competing AM, working PSG, and he's to die for. Tricky as hell and has taken a long time to come right following a bad start, but he blows me away. I'd do anything for a Jazz foal :)
 
My friend bred an amazing colt from Sandro Sun (or Son?). Won top marks at Futurity and he is so well behaved and absolutely beautiful. Anyone know what Ferro's are like?
 
nat1003 said:
I would love a Gribaldi horse but cant afford one. :( Everyone I have seen has been talented.
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We have owned our Gribaldi since he was 2.. now 13 and while he is uber talented, he is perhaps the trickiest, laziest horse I have ever ridden. (Although he is competing Inter II and working GP now...)

I would not buy one again!

I love sharp ones so TCN Partout (sire of my all time fav dressage horse Exquis Nadine) would be at the top of my list! :D

And Krack C too..
 
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I don't like Gribaldi's. Or you get a fantastic one (Sisther de Jeu, Totilas etc.) or you get a damn ugly one (too many just breed with him cause of his name).

I absolutely LOVE Krack C. All of his offspring is fab! So willingly to work and all move fantastic. My stallion has Krack C as Grandad, so very pleased! I also love Jazz's (they can be tricky, but once you've found the button, they are perfect!) and Metall's.
 
Saratoga said:
Having worked and trained with a couple of his offspring, I would say Jazz. I have one of his offspring at the moment competing AM, working PSG, and he's to die for. Tricky as hell and has taken a long time to come right following a bad start, but he blows me away. I'd do anything for a Jazz foal :)
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Saratoga, a friend of mine has a Jazz filly for sale, dam line is fab (by Florencio out of a full sister to Krack C!)
 
Interesting as my sister is looking for a stallion for her mare. We thought about Gribaldi lines but heard they can be tricky.

A friend of mine has a Krack C mare who is beautiful but again tricky.

Will look into some of the other one's mentioned though as food for thought.

Are you looking to buy Rowy? Take me with you when you go and look :D

Oh yes just remembered my friend in Australia owns Skywalker, now he's a beautiful stallion :)
 
janey said:
Interesting as my sister is looking for a stallion for her mare. We thought about Gribaldi lines but heard they can be tricky.

A friend of mine has a Krack C mare who is beautiful but again tricky.

Will look into some of the other one's mentioned though as food for thought.

Are you looking to buy Rowy? Take me with you when you go and look :D

Oh yes just remembered my friend in Australia owns Skywalker, now he's a beautiful stallion :)
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Will be probably in a year or so but just trying to get an idea now of good blood lines so I understand a bit better :P
 
I have a 3yr old whose breeding includes Sandro Hit (Dam's Sire) and Rubinstein. He is the loveliest lad on the ground, and despite being a little sharp in the beginning he settled down to ridden work really well. He is now out in the field until he turns 4, so we will see if he is sharp to re-back.

PM me if you want to see some pictures of him, I can't seem to post them :(
 
Interesting what some have written. I'm no expert but personally, as an amateur, I wouldn't touch Jazz or Krack C offspring. Although talented they are extremely difficult!!!

My favourite is Negro without a doubt.
 
I look after a beautiful Warmblood who is by Florestan and he really is stunning, has a lovely temperament and has very expressive paces so that is one stallion I would definitely recommend. Also, anything with Donnerhall/Nimmerdor bloodlines is usually pretty talented.
 
Not really into breeding etc, and dont think this is strictly dressage breeding, but we have a grand-daughter of Samber, by Hercorose. She has her grand-fathers looks, intellligence, paces and lovely temperament. Have come across a few coloureds by Samber/Samber's sons and they are all gorgeous and seem to have movement to die for, plus are really nice people as well. However, I am not an expert .....
 
My new boy is by stedinger by sandro hit, and His mum is by landfrieden by landgraf. He is really chilled , has lovely movement but is really rideable. I don't know a lot about breeding but he seems great x
 
MillionDollar said:
Interesting what some have written. I'm no expert but personally, as an amateur, I wouldn't touch Jazz or Krack C offspring. Although talented they are extremely difficult!!!

My favourite is Negro without a doubt.
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I agree with this totally. MY friend who has the Krack C mare has professionals riding for her, she doesn't do much of the riding at all to be honest. She owns the Stallion I've put on here 'Skywalker' but again he is ridden by a professional and not an amateur.

Now...you have me thinking about a new thread :D
 
although am not an expert on this AT ALL and not a total dressage diva as well as being totally bias I think my boy is loverrrrly. He is by Farrington and his grandad is wellington, great grandsire nimmerdor. Ollie is 6 and has been an absolute pleasure from day one (I had him at 4). We affiliated both BE and BD last eyar and haven't looked back. I have no idea what I'm doign but he has been really easy to train and now with my amazing instructor we are moving up to elementary which he finds v easy...easier than I do. His dam has good lines too but can't google her :p
 
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I dont know all dressage breeding but my current horse is by Jazz. He is the biggest most quirkiest pain in the ass ever but I have a great bond wih him (now), he is stunning to look at, moves wonderfully and I am excited about his future. However he is not for the faint hearted, in fact most people on the yard are intrigued as to how I keep my cool with his everyday antics. He can be stubborn, he nibbles and plays CONSTANTLY, he is always looking around curiously and I have never seen him relaxed with a droopy bottom lip, he has major strops if he doesnt quite understand something (bunny hops, kicks out at the leg), and random fits of excitement which means I have now fallen off this horse a total of 6 times in the first year of owning him. I bought him from a grand prix rider who couldnt get a tune out of him, I actually intended to sell him on. Not all horses are professional rides only, some need a knowlegeable but less pressuring rider. If you put the dedication, preserverance and time in, you will get a gem out of a stone with a Jazz horse.
 
I too would totally avoid a Jazz horse.

I love Metall and have two with his breeding, real sweethearts. Would love a pony by Brokat though!
 
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