Your reason for and against jumping in a Standing Martingale

Are you for or against using a Standing Martingale for jumping

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I wouldn't jump a horse in a standing martingale as they can't move their heads enough for the jump. Thats my opinion anyway so i wouldn't use one i would just stick to a running martingale.
 
When a standing is correctly fitted they do not interfere with a horses jump, they simply come into play when the head is raised to an excessive point, not under normal circumstances. I hate how running martingales takes a pull on a horses mouth, I'd much rather a pull be taken on their nose, esp with sensitive horses/youngsters who you can easily loose their confidence by them getting socked in the teeth due to it.
Just my opinion.
 
Depends on the horse's way of going, however it is paramount with both running and standing martingales are fitted correctly. Personally I prefer a running martingale, but for a horse which hates the action of a running martingale, make sure a standing martingale is fitted fairly loosely, as I find it restricts the horse'a ability to 'stretch' over a fence (especially bigger fences).
 
I personally prefer a Standing Martingale as like simplyhunting I don't like the fact that a Running Martingale has an effect on the mouth.

I'd rather have the horse get a sock on the nose than a sock in the mouth.

I've not found them restrictive - they have no action when the head is lowered and allow the horse to stretch. I do however use the old type of Standing that is an independent piece of equipment, with its own neck strap loosely fitted - not one attached to the breastplate. On the breastplate I find they can be too short.
 
i prefer action on the nose rather than on the mouth
i used to be against jumping in a standing but was soon converted when i moved to the US and saw properly fitted standings used - with no problems at all
problime is that we were taught in the UK not to jump in them and all sorts of horror stories - many people will never look beyond

but - saying that - what a really prefer is neither ;)
 
Second what tnavas and simplyhunting said. See no reason not to use one if correctly fitted, especially not over smallish unfixed fences.
 
It used to be stanard practice to jump and hunt a young horse in a standing martingale. It only came into disrepute when people started tying the horse's head down, rather than fitting it correctly so it only comes into use when the horse's head is too high.
 
Oh my goodness. My thread went wayy out of context! : embarrassed:
It was just general ramblings from what I thought was a poor display of general riding/horse management at a local competition.

I voted 'depends on horse'.
 
Depends on the horse, but correctly fitted. Nothing to do with tying the horses head down, just so that the horses head doesn't go excessively high. Basically what some others said up there^^
And I've jumped in one at highish levels and it's never restricted my horses jump, it's never tight enough so she cannot jump normally.
 
Tnavas said:
I personally prefer a Standing Martingale as like simplyhunting I don't like the fact that a Running Martingale has an effect on the mouth.

I'd rather have the horse get a sock on the nose than a sock in the mouth.

I've not found them restrictive - they have no action when the head is lowered and allow the horse to stretch. I do however use the old type of Standing that is an independent piece of equipment, with its own neck strap loosely fitted - not one attached to the breastplate. On the breastplate I find they can be too short.
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I agree entirely. Well put!
 
Orangehorse said:
It used to be stanard practice to jump and hunt a young horse in a standing martingale. It only came into disrepute when people started tying the horse's head down, rather than fitting it correctly so it only comes into use when the horse's head is too high.
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This is why i don't like them as i have seen them used incorrectly more i have seen them use correctly. I have used them myself on a pony i have and he no longer needs it as he has learnt to go correctly now so is no longer it.
 
Whatever works for you and your horse, I prefer NOT having to use one and I prefer to ride my horses in simple tack but that's not always possible.

I use a running martingale on my loan pony but wouldn't hesitate to put a standing on if she really needed it :)

Too many people using the them to drag the head in rather than what they were intentionally for, to stop you getting an inadvertant broken nose ;)
 
Black Beastie said:
Whatever works for you and your horse, I prefer NOT having to use one and I prefer to ride my horses in simple tack but that's not always possible.

I use a running martingale on my loan pony but wouldn't hesitate to put a standing on if she really needed it :)

Too many people using the them to drag the head in rather than what they were intentionally for, to stop you getting an inadvertant broken nose ;)
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I must admit, for twenty years I jumped/hunted etc in a running and never gave it a moment's thought. Fast forward to when my baby horse said 'if you carry on, I will turn into a headshaker' so I took it off and haven't used one on any horse since. I think many riders see them as security blankets. Never tried a standing though
 
Actually meant to add occasionally lol!! I took her to an arena XC clinic and didn't use one as I didn't have to :) pony is only 5 and I honestly can say 99% of the time she doesnneed one :)
 
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