1/2 Livery Problems

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grhands

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Hello everyone. I don't know if anyone can help me but I have a bit of an issue with my livery yard.

My yard owner took me on as a part livery which she doesn't usually do. I pay £95 a week for everything other than riding although I do lay the bed, nets, water, get horse in etc.

Anyhow due to personal differences my yard owner asked me to leave yesterday, preferably by Saturday. I have always paid up front, a month in hand and even now I am paid up until end of July although she said she will refund this.

I'm just feeling a bit put out that I have been asked to leave by Saturday, this gives me so little time to find somewhere nice. I was going to have my horse at my Nans place but it is just too wet and there is not enough grazing.

I have been a good livery IMHO. Never paid late, helped out with buying extra hay, paid for lessons I never ended up getting. And now due to a personal issue whereby I have not actually done a thing wrong I have been asked to go and I feel this is unfair as I cannot seem to find somewhere good enough for my boy quick enough and this is upsetting me as I don't want to keep uprooting him over and over.

There were no signed contracts or anything although a few emails sent back and forth about charges etc. And my statements showing what I paid. Do I have any rights at all?.
 
I had a similar problem, and was not able to find anywhere for some three weeks, the YO's husband [nasty type] was screaming that they would move the horse if I didn't!!! a bit mad.
The YO has a duty of care and cannot turn you out on the street. Legally, if you are paying monthly, to me this is in effect a monthly contract, on both sides.
 
It's best to get legal advice. Citizen's advice may be able to help. They will often give you information on what to put in a letter. You may also have legal advice line with your union or car insurance.
 
Could you not ask to stay until the end of july and find somewhere in the meantime? Why have you been asked to leave, sorry to be nosey.
 
Legally, even without a contract, you have to be given a months notice. You have paid for the service, and are entitled to it.
 
I'd try taking her to one side and explaining as calmly as you can that you are looking and want to go as soon as possible however you don't want to jeopardise your horse's health by taking him to an unsuitable yard because you don't have time to find the right yard.

Personally although I agree you should legally have rights I don't think mentioning that is going to help you in the least. I'd be as nice as I possibly could to get the end result I wanted, which is for the horse to stay put until the right yard is found. It's not fair but it's life and you catch more flies with honey than vinegar (or something like that!)

Good luck and I hope you find somewhere nice soon. :)
 
I think its rude when either side doesn't give a month's notice. Something fairly big must have happened. My last liveries drove me mad before they went, but I wouldn't have given them a week or less as notice (they did though!)

Take a deep breath, swallow your pride, go and have a chat, aplologise that something has gone wrong, say that you're trying to sort something out as soon as you can, but probably won't be able to do it in three days!!

If the worst comes to the worst, go to your aunts for a couple of weeks, damp fields or not..
 
You need to speak to them. Say you will leave, but would appreciate a clear months notice to find a new yard - stating that they would expect the same from you if you were giving notice.

Tbh, there's not much they can do to get you off earlier, and as you do have a contract (implied), so the law is on your side.
 
Hope you can find somewhere !!! Personally I would never expect anyone to leave my yard without a months notice or if they decided to leave a weeks notice to allow plenty of time to find somewhere else to go , nice yards aren't easy to find :( x
 
Agree with others, I would speak to her very nicely & ask if you can have till the end of the month to sort something out as you're having difficulty, but will try & find somewhere quick as possible.
 
It wasn't a bad thing I did. It was to do with a friendship I made with another family member that wasn't approved of. No one was hurt it just wasn't liked. It caused friction in the family which snowballed and led to me being wrongly accused of many things. I never even once shouted or got angry. Just upset. It was all so sad and such a shame.
 
Ah so you mean a romantic thing with someone I assume? Anyway, that's no reason to chuck you off the yard with short notice. Speak to her and say you want your months notice, you will leave, and that personal relationships aren't really a good reason.
 
SusieT said:
Ah so you mean a romantic thing with someone I assume? Anyway, that's no reason to chuck you off the yard with short notice. Speak to her and say you want your months notice, you will leave, and that personal relationships aren't really a good reason.
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Well I am now moving regardless as it is best for me and my horse now. Given the option at this stage I would choose to go, as there is no way I could go through this heartache again. This is not the right way to go along...

Please, one word of advice to anyone going on to a livery yard. When you arrive; sit down and have a cuppa with the yard owner and arrange some terms and conditions with regards to the livery situation. Get to know one another and make sure you are singing from the same hymn sheet.

http://www.bhs.org.uk/Join_Or_Support_Us/Become_BHS_Approved/Livery_Yards/Livery_Yard_Agreement.aspx

However good things seem initially you never know what is around the corner so protect yourself on both sides!
 
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