1 year old bitch peeing and pooping at night.

thanks NeverEver - we've already cut her daily food allowance down - she's fed at 6.30am and 5pm - cleans her bowl every time - access to the yard is just that, access to the bare yard - there are no plants, toys etc. that she can eat -all toys are solid hard things. She's never ever shown any sign of poop eating. Not treated at other times - as a family we're not willy nilly treat feeders. Last 2 days she's been watched meticulously - someone has gone outside with her every time she's gone outside, when we're not around during the day, she's supervised at my mums [this is a regular thing all 3 have done since pups - when we're out they go to mums with her 2 in their dog area, which is large, safe and controlled]

I feel as though I'm being negative towards comments but please believe me I am appreciating every little idea/thought/suggestion that people are putting forward.

Night before last I thought we were having a breakthrough - she woke me up at 4.30 [I'd woken at 1.30 and taken her out as I do when I wake during the night] but it appeared she'd woken me to tell me she'd performed ... last night she woke me again, 3.29am, but again it was to tell me she'd performed ... althought I am counting this as small progress as she is realsing that she needs to wake us to tell us something ... Coming home from training last night, we walk, its not too far and it tires her out a bit more, she pooped - it was 8.20pm - she'd been fed at 6.30 and again at 5pm so roughly 10 hours between feeds so the waking at half 3 would be roughly 10 hours following her last feed but but the 3 hour gap between 5 and 8.20 doesn't fit!

The annoying thing is that yes, she's dozy, but she's totally switched on - last nights training was sitting and lying on different sufaces - with no commands other than hand signals she was lying on everything from a blanket to a wobbly round plastic sledge by way of bubble wrap and a step stool with no problems - she progressed the fastest in the group!

Love her to bits but she is SO draining! and frustrating! Vets next week and in the mean time am keeping a diary of performance times, feed times etc. so we've got some concrete evidence to present. x
 
If its to do with her brain mechanics, which is looking more likely, and she's been doing this for a year, you're not going to see results after two days.

If you consider the many conditions that we humans have, some things come naturally and others don't. Just because someone is gifted at English, it doesn't make them a talented plumber.

Sounds old fashioned but the dogs who weren't meant to make it from nature, the ones that we humans fought for or paid for vets to keep alive, often have issues/quirks which never leave them.
 
good job skelly. let you know how you get on. Just make 100% sure when she is in the yard that if the others go (or she does) it isnt being consume at warp speed. Ive been through this same thing and while it wasn't the cause, it wasn't helping. We never got our girl 100% she always had to be crated at night, she was 95% clean :)
 
I totally understand what you're saying :) I don't expect her to be sorted after 2 days - obviously we've been battling this for a loooooonnnnnggggg time now and in desperation I've come asking for more varied advice ... and yes, i know what you're saying about nature not intending them to be with us ... I'm glad I did as she is such a sweet natured girl ... its just during the early hours I dislike her!
 
Small steps but there is a very very small pinprick of light glimmering at the endof the loooonnnnggggg dark tunnel we're in ...

Its not ideal but the last 3 nights she has woken us up to tell us she's performed - still not ideal but at least we're not waking up to it - I can put up with cold wet noses and disturbed sleep if it means we're slowly getting there ...

AND, as an added bonus [after the half midnight cold nose wake up] she did the same at 3.30am [woke me up with a cold nose in the neck] dh took her down and she'd NOT done anything but went to the door and nosed it, then went outside and performed! Not a major thing but pretty major in our life!
 
2 nights now she's woken us up, gone outside and 'performed' - I can put up with the broken nights if it means she'll go outside ...!

On teh down side, she got into my daughters bedroom and very kindly emptied her waste bin ..... we're estimating between 5 and 7 cotton pads have been shredded and probably some ingested! Sometimes I wonder if its not the training the dog I should be doing but training the kids to SHUT DOORS! We're awaiting 'results' of bin emptying now .....!
 
2 nights now she's woken us up, gone outside and 'performed' - I can put up with the broken nights if it means she'll go outside ...!

On teh down side, she got into my daughters bedroom and very kindly emptied her waste bin ..... we're estimating between 5 and 7 cotton pads have been shredded and probably some ingested! Sometimes I wonder if its not the training the dog I should be doing but training the kids to SHUT DOORS! We're awaiting 'results' of bin emptying now .....!

Our dogs eat the contents of teenage son's bin quite often. Labradors - love 'em! Good news on the night training. Skanky the spaniel slept in last night for the first time in months (in a cage) and was clean...and made it to the lawn before peeing this morning. (She normally does it in the porch). So happy peoples all round.
 
2 nights now she's woken us up, gone outside and 'performed' - I can put up with the broken nights if it means she'll go outside ...!

On teh down side, she got into my daughters bedroom and very kindly emptied her waste bin ..... we're estimating between 5 and 7 cotton pads have been shredded and probably some ingested! Sometimes I wonder if its not the training the dog I should be doing but training the kids to SHUT DOORS! We're awaiting 'results' of bin emptying now .....!


That is good news!

The kids will learn to shut doors when they get fed up of their shoes being chewed because they left the door open. Can you tell I've had loads of Labradors?
 
That is good news!

The kids will learn to shut doors when they get fed up of their shoes being chewed because they left the door open. Can you tell I've had loads of Labradors?

LOL! I am refusing to replace his expensive trainers that the young lab ate a hole in. He is buying a new pair himself. The spaniel doesn't chew shoes but Pen (now rising 2) still finds them irresistable.
 
you would think by now, especially as we have had dogs ALL their lives [and beyond!] that they would learn really .... but no .... although youngest has learnt to put his shoes away after she ate 2 pairs of canvas converse and piddled in his school shoes .... made him use his hard earned beating money to replace the canvas shoes!

although to be fair on them - NONE of the other labs have been bin raiders or shoe chewers .. re-cycling bin cat food tin pinchers yes, but not shoes or waste bins!

BUT I'm not worried as she ASKED TO GO OUTSIDE! Flags are out - probably put them away tomorrow but I can be joyful for one day! :)
 
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