10 month old just cut cleveland x just bought by novice.........

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Person on yard has bought a colt and allegedly intends to take it to yard as soon as its cut -not wanting to wait appropriate time for things to settle etc
Don't know where she's going to put it as don't know what (if any) probs it will cause if put in with geldings.
And whilst it is their business they have only been in horses a year and struggle with the horse they have got(really are very novicey have trouble tacking up etc!!).
IMO just an accident waiting to happen plus poor horse will land up with a label through really no fault of his own.It apparently is quite big already and full of himself!!!!
Will it be 'safe' with other gelding if just cut
 
If it's only 10 months old then your gelding should be able to sort it's toddler behaviour out....it may be showing colty signs, but will soon learn once the real men have a word with it.
It's more likely to be nippy for the owners than anything else.
Good luck!
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See this is what really annoys me, i have been around horses since the age of 5 but although i got my first loan at 11 years old i didnt get the opportunity to buy my own until i was 21 and able to afford and care for it properly.

Even now as much as i would love a foal of my own i would not just go out and purchase one on a whim!
 
The biggest thing they will have to be wary of, other than the obvious, will be if the youngster was/still is very colty as he may not show as much respect for his elders as he should. Also, if the other horses he is out with are older and have shoes on, there is a real danger of him getting kicked and injured more seriously than if out with horses without shoes. A friend's yearling used to go out with their show cob....had been in together since he was a foal, however, the cob had shoes on and one day he got kicked (not intentiibally or nastily) but with youngster being more easily broken etc. he managed to completely sever the foals extensor tendon running down the front of his foreleg. He lived, but spent 3 months cooped up in his box with a full cast on and then spent months rehabbing.
This is why I am now very wary about who my youngsters go out with - if there is trouble about to be got into, they'll get into it - they're just too inquisitve for their own good and don't know any better.
 
TBH I'd speak to YO about it and let her know if there's an accident she'll be paying your vets fees..... can't see that a 10 month old would do anything that bad.

Other than that good luck to em.
 
thanks for reply.
My gelding will probably leave it alone (hes 22 now and just want to be left to eat)there are a couple of other strong characters in the field that should sort him out.
Personally I'm going to stay out of it if possible unless it affects any of mine!May be selfish but have found in past they don't take advice which is fair enough it is only advice.
 
Know what you mean.I really don't know why buying a youngster when they have no experience was thought a good idea.
Part of me feels sorry for them as think it will end in tears at best and someone hurt at worst.
Yea would love a youngster but being realistic don't have the time.We did think of getting one for my daughter,I don't mind doing ground work,she can ride it.But won't at moment she has exams at mo and definitely wouldn't be that young more 3/4 yr old.
 
Most of the geldings have shoes in that field.Hope it doesn't come to it getting hurt as there be a whole other issue with getting vet!
 
YO is a farmer and is usually very helpful.Initially he said no to it coming on yard then said yes if its cut.It really is totally diy.
No don't think it could be that bad but there may be a fall down effect when he isn't being taught his p and q's by owner if he turns out to be a bit of a bolshy boy.Heres hoping he's not.
Suppose will just have to wait and see.
 
I know you don't want to get involved too much but maybe warn the other liveries with horses with shoes on as if the youngster gets kicked and needs the vet, if they have their wits about them, they might just demand that the person who's horse kicked him/their insurance pays for the vet bills. I've known of this to happen... Maybe they can draw up a disclaimer or something stating that they accept no responsibility for any injury that may befall the youngster whilst it is out with their horses, etc. because god forbid the baby did get kicked and broke something, then the person could be in for a hefty vet bill, even though a youngster shouldn't have been out with shod horses anyway!
 
Thats an interesting one!
Didn't think ,to be honest that, if horses were kicked that owner of the horse that did the kicking would be liable at all (unless ofcourse it is known to be particularly bad with other horses and owner knew this).
A pony of ours got a bad kick and broke a bone,knew horse who had kicked her but tho very annoying just see it as part of horse ownership and wouldn't have thought of asking other horses owner for money.
If people start doing that livery yards better start offering single field livery only!
I may try and mention danger to person with younster and hope they take note.Also will mention this to other liveries as really didn't think people could do that.Although shouldn't suprise me nowadays.
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A pony of ours got a bad kick and broke a bone,knew horse who had kicked her but tho very annoying just see it as part of horse ownership and wouldn't have thought of asking other horses owner for money.
If people start doing that livery yards better start offering single field livery only!


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My horse (before I got him) was on individual turnout - a mare the other side of the fence kicked him and broke his leg - so they'll find a way of damaging each other even if they're not in the same field!!

But I feel the same as you, unless there is a horse with a real and acknowledged agression problem and is still turned out with other horses, I don't think the owners should be made to pay for field injuries inflicted. At the end of the day, when horses are turned out together there is always the risk of injuries happening, and it's rarely the owner's fault if their horse kicks someone else.

My horse is pretty dominant in the field, and whilst I would be devastated if he injured another horse, I wouldn't feel like it was my responsibility for paying for vets bills etc, same as I wouldn't expect anyone else to pay mine.

Off topic there, sorry......as for the newly gelded colt, my friend turned hers out with a gelding herd soon after he was 'done' and he was swiftly dumped firmly at the bottom of the pecking order, to remain there. He wasn't gelded until he was about 18 months and was displaying coltish tendancies - nipping etc - but he was soon put in his place by the herd and became a nicer boy for it.
 
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