10 Puppies

Interesting MoC, most blocks of flats and apartments near us have clauses from the management company stating no pets. I cannot imagine how you would manage to house train a dog, following the logic that you need to pop it outside on a regular basis and often the easiest way is to scoop it up in your arms and rush out to the back garden, certainly after it has been sleeping! Trying to imagine getting out from a first floor flat, hoping noone is blocking your way or the pup has an accident en route. When I lived alone and had a dog there were a few times I was extremely grateful I was able to leave my back door open so the dog could wander in and out freely and I didnt have to worry about toilet breaks at specific times. I appreciate that there are many different ways to keep a dog, I honestly cannot think that a big dog living in what looked like quite a small flat, is very sensible though
 
if you live in Edinburgh you're likely to live in a tenement building. they arent high rises but I was on the second floor and managed it-that pup never had an accident indoors. is it ideal? no-but there will be people keeping dogs well and those keeping them badly in flats-just like there are those that turf them out in small, boring gardens on their own to bark for hours.

I'd not have either breed she was looking at tbh even at my place!
 
JennBags said:
Exactly my thoughts all round. Didn't watch last week's episode but Mr JB insisted we watch this weeks instalment, wish we hadn't as it just made us think of Woolfie and it feels so unfair that these bloody idiots have their lovely puppies when we don't have ours.
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:( Life is so unfair. How are you doing?
 
Don't quite agree with MyBoyChe but perhaps the lady in the flat could have been better advised. A leonberger isn't the breed to spring to mind when having a dog in a flat (a collie neither, but of course it depends on the owner as MoC proves - i rehomed a GSP to a flat & she has a superb life - a lot of rescues would have failed that homecheck, if it had even got that far).

I really hope Poppy's family work a bit more on teaching their child to respect the puppy's space - it would appear to be an accident waiting to happen, poor pup, & we all know who will pay the price in the long run if things don't change :-(

I guess at least the lady with the GR seems to be trying.
 
MyBoyChe said:
Im not sure whether Im being overly harsh but the dog behaviourist, surely she shouldnt be encouraging the woman in the flat to even consider a dog, let alone a huge dog!! What happens on the day you are stuck in bed with an upset tum or flu and cant manage to drag yourself to the loo, let alone take the dog out?? You might just about get away with house training a tiny toy breed to use a toilet pad or litter tray, even then IMO its wrong to keep a dog (or a cat) in a flat, but I just cant see how a big dog is going to be happy :( Im afraid I wanted to give that 3yr old a smack on the legs (not very PC, I know, I know) but felt so sorry for the dog, fortunately by the end of the prog they seemed to have found a better balance. If I was lost on a mountain it would be quite nice to be rescued by the lovely Will and Jura :). Still undecided about Lola, again, they seemed to be coping better but Im stillnot sure they are really "dog" people.
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I was also surprised the dog behaviourist didn't suggest a smaller, more easily managed breed - but I thought it was a good idea to bring a large, boisterous Great Dane in to show her a snippet of how life would be with a huge dog in a small flat. I won't be surprised if she ends up only keeping the pup for a short time before realising it is too much for her .... but that is just the impression I get from her personality. Hopefully I am wrong and she will make a superb dog owner. As MoC has said, it is harder to keep a dog well in a flat but it can be done successfully. There are good and bad dog owners in all situations. Having said that, I don't think I would be happy selling a working or large breed dog into a flat situation unless the owner proved to me they were exceptional dog owners.
 
That thought also entered my head, I think from the trailer for next week she ends up with a leon pup. I dont know the breed but I dont think they would be bred in huge numbers, surely the breeder would do some sort of check on where there pups were going. I know some of the backyard breeders are only it in for the cash and dont give 2 hoots but I would like to think that "proper" breeders do have some sort of vested interest in putting a pup in a good environment. That said, Im sure whoever sold the cocker thought the situation sounded ideal, family home, loads of space and so far, thats not looking wonderful is it! As MoC says, its more about the owner really, we all find ourselves in less than ideal situations sometimes, its about dealing with it and doing the best thing for our animals. Try as I might though, I cant see a good outcome for the lady in the flat, not with a huge dog anyway :(
 
My mum has rehomed several border collies, usually ex pets with issues, and she hasn't had a garden for 40 odd years. It can be done, but you need to be a committed and experienced dog owner. Having put my two pennies worth in I haven't watched the program so don't know what I am talking about!
 
Sat and watched last night's prog and enjoyed it. I think people are brave to go on a show like that and at least it seems they will get help if and when things go awry. Lola's mum was not deliberately unkind just completely clueless and I was so pleased to see her responding to help and guidance. I think what you have to remember when watching a prog like this is that it is edited to make it interesting to viewers and the general viewing public probably wouldn't get much out of seeing all the good stuff so the focus is on what is going wrong. If it helps to educate a few first dog owners then it will do a good job. Unless you were brought up around dogs as a child everyone has to be a first timer and it's impossible to imagine what hard work a puppy can be and training isn't instinctive to everyone, certainly wasn't with me. We were first timers 17 years ago and went into it in blissful ignorance, made some mistakes but ended up with both our dogs being relatively well trained and certainly very happy, friendly well balanced dogs. I'm looking forward to the next episode and will watch it with 10 week old Stanley on my lap so he can see how well behaved he is!
 
The Gordon I have just taken in has lived in an apartment most of her life.(whats the difference between an apartment and a flat anyway)
She is very well trained and been looked after beautifully, and was owners first and only dog, so it can be done !
 
i was pleased to see the woman with the gr was taking notice of the instructions and looks like they are getting on better. couldnt believe the excitable woman who wants a large dog to sleep on the bed with her, i fear this will be a disaster....loved poppy and thought she was such a lovely puppy for putting up with that child(who i would also have slapped!!!) hopefully they have now made the children aware of what they should be doing and will enforce it....loved jura and her owner..
 
Have only just caught up with this. The editing is a bit obvious. Pup biting annoying toddler. Now it's all sweet. Likewise the retriever and dippy owner. Miraculously sorted. But did love highlands rescue guy with border collie. But as for the woman wanting a large dog to fill her bed....omg
 
Omg, the toddler with the cocker! :mad3: I would have been really cross with her and the parents just weren't reacting or supervising properly. The way she was yanking the puppy round made me very angry. I think the dog gate was a brilliant idea and finally, she seemed to be left alone now when sleeping, thank god.

Woman in flat talking about wanting a romantic meal and bottle of wine with the dog, wtaf?! Is she mad?
 
I just started watching.
That show is wonderful! Lucky search and rescue doggie. :)
I felt terrible for the girl from the nail salon who grieved for her dead dog.
The golden retriever lady was off to such a good start, with such good resolutions, before she was completely overwhelmed by the puppy.
 
Well, MY puppy has just weed on the kitchen floor because I had the gall to be in the house and giving him less than my 100% undivided attention. He is in his crate in disgrace / to calm down and I am going to watch the first episode in the hope that it will make me feel less of an incompetent dog owner, relatively speaking.
 
Twenty minutes in and here are my initial thoughts...

1. Octavia, Albert and Isadora? Goodness.
2. How are these people's homes so immaculate?
3. I'm glad we've got our puppy BEFORE we have kids
4. These people's house is SO enormous that it takes five actual minutes to carry a pooping puppy from the kitchen to the back door!
5. I feel sorry for this poor lady with the GR, I don't think she knew what on earth she was letting herself in for and she doesn't seem to particularly like dogs anyway....
6. Will and Jura make me feel inadequate (except the bit where she sodded off across the mountain, that made me happier)
7. GREAT DANES OH THE DROOL
8. At least our dog walks when we take him out for a walk.

I feel so much better already!
 
Some of this programme has driven me mad, I cannot believe how completely inept some people are. Training a dog is not rocket science and if you have had children and dealt with a toddler it's much the same, consistency, consistency and the same again. The GR is such a beautiful dog and could be such a dream to own but really what is that woman like? Not surprised she has such little control over her children as well as the dog. The lady in the flat made me laugh but think she may end up with a very dominant dog on her hands. It's amazing how little research people do before getting a dog when they have never owned one before. I think you can always tell someone who has been brought up with animals and someone who has given in to their childrens demands for a dog. Glad these owners have the help of a professional as I am sure most of them would have beenn given up without this help.
 
She's very hysterical, isn't she? Lots of high squeaking, guaranteed to wind up the puppy. It was pathetic at the puppy class, just because it had a poo! She doesn't seem to be coping.

I'm interested to see how the lab works out, it does seem to be a calming influence on that little boy.

That little pug lives near me, in the old converted orphanage. It's a shame nothing was mentioned about the brachy issues.
 
Poor Shiva and owner, I was so sad to see them on the long journey home, was there no-one who could have driven them home? Owner may be barking mad and shrill but I really want her to succeed, so fingers crossed that the "expert" gets her on track.
Stanley (10 wks) watched the pug with envy and asked me why he was in bed with the bosses, he hasn't even been upstairs (and nor will he). However when I explained Butch had to earn his keep whereas he was a complete freeloader, he went off to his crate for a kip I don't think he'd take to being dressed up.
The family with the lab was inspirational, my goodness I was humbled by the mother and the older lad. I really look forward to seeing more of the family and the lovely dog.
 
I think I liked this episode better than the rest, or it frustrated me less! Shiva's owner is a bit clueless, but she frustrated me less than the GR owner from the other episodes. Might have just been the way it was edited but I think the dog trainer could have been a bit friendlier with her and tried to help her a bit more when it was clear she was struggling. i can understand the tears, if all the other dogs look perfectly well behaved she probably felt really frustrated and I can understand where you get tears from that.

Whilst I don't think I'd dress my dog up little Butch was ace! The woman with the 5 kids and puppy was trying really hard to get a pup to match her family and I commend that - I hope he does really help her little boy :)
 
I just can't stay watching this series. I have tried for a bit every week, but most of the owners are clueless and it borders on the cruel. That poor puppy on the train being lumped about and not even held properly. Then that ridiculous woman screamed when it peed and pood. I couldn't watch any more which may have meant I missed some better bits.
 
Chiffy said:
I just can't stay watching this series. I have tried for a bit every week, but most of the owners are clueless and it borders on the cruel. That poor puppy on the train being lumped about and not even held properly. Then that ridiculous woman screamed when it peed and pood. I couldn't watch any more which may have meant I missed some better bits.
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even my OH said to me when she started crying 'ffs, turn this off I am about to get angry' lol. She's what happens when someone does no research at all and takes everything an animal does personally. I'm sure next week they'll show it getting worse and then the behaviourist will be sent in.

I think the pug's owners need shot.
 
Widgeon said:
Leonberger....no I'd never heard of them either. And yes, she probably is going to get almost as big as Google would suggest!
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THATS IT!!!!! Thanks it had been driving me mad, I new the breed but just couldn't remember the name!

Without having seen the start.... I have no idea why she would pick that breed with her experience/situation!
 
Shoei said:
THATS IT!!!!! Thanks it had been driving me mad, I new the breed but just couldn't remember the name!

Without having seen the start.... I have no idea why she would pick that breed with her experience/situation!
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I have seen the start, and I still have no idea why she picked that breed. I think she wants it to sleep in her bed with her and provide her with companionship. I am not going to make any public comment on this except to say that she seems nice but rather eccentric, very much lacking in common sense and dog knowledge, and I'm a bit worried that she's going to raise a monster that controls her life. And the lives of everyone in her flats.*

*obviously this won't happen because it's a TV show and it will all be happy with cuddles in the end, but I am slightly bothered by the fact that there are people out there making these kind of decisions about dog ownership *without* the support of the BBC. Or indeed anyone else. I was surprised the breeder let her have one.
 
Bumping this old thread as it's being shown again and it's winding me up just as much the second time, but I can't stop watching it. Anyone else getting their blood pressure up a second time?
 
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