BroadfordQueen
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Thoughts on 12 year olds doing BE at BE80/BE90 level?
12 year olds competing BE?
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rotters13
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Doesn't bother me!
chester1234
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Technically 11year olds can - you have to be in the year of your 12th birthday. So a child could be 12 on 31st dec so do a full season as an 11yo.
I have to be careful as I know this was the case with Tabledancers daughter, but obviously she had the pony and the capability [proven in their results]. However I do struggle to believe that an 11YO can have exhausted all the possibilities at PC level .:. feel the need to do BE.
I have to be careful as I know this was the case with Tabledancers daughter, but obviously she had the pony and the capability [proven in their results]. However I do struggle to believe that an 11YO can have exhausted all the possibilities at PC level .:. feel the need to do BE.
superstar565
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As long as they are good enough riders with ponies that will do it then I see no reason why not!
jumptoit
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I expect some of them are more capable than older participants at those levels - I remember seeing in H&H last year about a 12 year old who won her first event - good on her!
PC can easily be exhausted by that point - although it is dependant on your location.
PC can easily be exhausted by that point - although it is dependant on your location.
Chloa
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I think if they havn't got the ability its dangerous, but in my opinion there going to be the future team riders and to me its showing pretty good hope (also why i thought taking the discount away was madness). I think it might be rushed though.
teddybrowne
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Pony club is at best inconsistent in terms of xc and sj, and at worst the courses are dangerous. The medical attendance is limited, and veterinary attendance none existent.
Where would you want your 12yr old to compete?
However, after my recent experience of watching pony trials, the so called pinacle of junior eventing, I am concerned by the level of riding. Even more so by BEs reluctance to intervene. I think any rider and age who is deemed to ride recklessly xc, ie, too fast, disregarding distances, over using the whip or running a horse very under fit, should be eliminated from that competition and sanctioned accordingly. I think a list of those riders should be published in the BE mag - as they do in the BSJA.
These xc fences don't know down, and if you hit them hard enough, you won't be getting up afterwards. So why is it that the BSJA take a harder line than BE?
Where would you want your 12yr old to compete?
However, after my recent experience of watching pony trials, the so called pinacle of junior eventing, I am concerned by the level of riding. Even more so by BEs reluctance to intervene. I think any rider and age who is deemed to ride recklessly xc, ie, too fast, disregarding distances, over using the whip or running a horse very under fit, should be eliminated from that competition and sanctioned accordingly. I think a list of those riders should be published in the BE mag - as they do in the BSJA.
These xc fences don't know down, and if you hit them hard enough, you won't be getting up afterwards. So why is it that the BSJA take a harder line than BE?
Bella3puff
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My 12 year old daughter is doing BE
yes Pony Club is where she should be but where are they now???? so many branches just don't run them any more and like said above they are just not all the same standard... we did level 3 (BE90) and 4 (BE100) last year and some are huge and some are tiny.... we did a level 4 and it was no more than 2ft6 when that should be inline with BE100
I think there would be room for Pony/under 16 BE100 and Pony/under 16 BE90 classes at some of the events where bit like the training classes there is trainers around to help and advices both the riders and the parents
yes Pony Club is where she should be but where are they now???? so many branches just don't run them any more and like said above they are just not all the same standard... we did level 3 (BE90) and 4 (BE100) last year and some are huge and some are tiny.... we did a level 4 and it was no more than 2ft6 when that should be inline with BE100
I think there would be room for Pony/under 16 BE100 and Pony/under 16 BE90 classes at some of the events where bit like the training classes there is trainers around to help and advices both the riders and the parents
Starbucks
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Doesn't bother me at all and I think most would be better riders than a lot of older BE riders.
jumptoit
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I think there would be room for Pony/under 16 BE100 and Pony/under 16 BE90 classes at some of the events where bit like the training classes there is trainers around to help and advices both the riders and the parents
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Most definitely!
I think there would be room for Pony/under 16 BE100 and Pony/under 16 BE90 classes at some of the events where bit like the training classes there is trainers around to help and advices both the riders and the parents
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Most definitely!
teddybrowne
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I think the idea of a junior section is excellent!
gw171093
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As long as the kids are capable and polite to other riders - and the mothers arent to competitive!! 
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Thistle
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Some events already run junior sections. Little Downham did last year
wench
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wrong!!! What I think will happen is there are people such as me... I dont have access to expensive trainers, and my horse is a nag, and extremely difficult to ride at competitons. "Intro" is meant to be for fairly novice competitions, so why should I have to be competing against a child on an experienced good pony, that probably goes to PC camp etc.
However, if there is a junior section got no problem with that!
However, if there is a junior section got no problem with that!
AnShanDan
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There's a post above here about the xc course(s) at pony club events being not up to scratch. This is why younger riders are going to BE. Unless pc courses and other aspects of the events improve kids are bound to want to do BE instead.
When my eldest son started affiliated eventing there were lots of Pony Club classes tacked onto BE events, usually at PN. You paid the same but only needed your DCs sig. to enter. They ran as a separate section at the same time as the BE (in fact they often had riding club sections too). I don't know why these stopped 'cos they were great.
When my eldest son started affiliated eventing there were lots of Pony Club classes tacked onto BE events, usually at PN. You paid the same but only needed your DCs sig. to enter. They ran as a separate section at the same time as the BE (in fact they often had riding club sections too). I don't know why these stopped 'cos they were great.
IsabelleJ
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I originally read this as 12 year old horses competing BE and wondered what anyone could find wrong with it!
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Daisychain
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I think there ought to be a Junior section, as i think Dressage Judges are always going to be more lenient towards children, so better if they just compete amongst themselves.
Skhosu
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we have junior and pony sections, do BE not have this?
You also cannot compete on a horse until 14 I think
Wench-there will always be people with more money/better trainers. suck it up. it's not necessarily these kids, some will be on bog standard ponies, yes some will be on very nice ones and some wives will be on very nice horses bought by hubby! same thing.
You also cannot compete on a horse until 14 I think
Wench-there will always be people with more money/better trainers. suck it up. it's not necessarily these kids, some will be on bog standard ponies, yes some will be on very nice ones and some wives will be on very nice horses bought by hubby! same thing.