Finlib
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Super looking horsed any one else have alarm bells ringing at that price!!
unbacked sold from the field !
unbacked sold from the field !
15.3hh 4yo KWPN bay project mare Zacharov x Holland >>>>>>>
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SpringArising
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Was just looking at her ad.
I think they've just bitten off more than they can chew by the sounds of it. Would love to go and have a look at her. Shame (or a blessing!) that she's so far away.
I think they've just bitten off more than they can chew by the sounds of it. Would love to go and have a look at her. Shame (or a blessing!) that she's so far away.
Girlracer
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Sounds a bit sharp/quirky to me but looks a smart bargain for a pro.
LadyRascasse
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Sounds honestly advertised and priced to sell tbh. No alarm bells here.
Wagtail
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Lovely looking mare, and what a jump! I think they are being honest. The mare is just too much for them on the ground. I had a small taster with my young mare a couple of weeks ago which had me questioning if she was too much for me at my age. Thankfully we got through it. But if she persisted then I would have probably thought, you know what, 10 years ago that wouldn't be a problem, now I just want an easier, safer life. I imagine the mare in the ad is just very boisterous. I think she probably has oodles of talent which a pro could make very good use of.
Finlib
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The alarms bells for me are just how much of a handful she is.
One wonders why she hasn't been sent to a professional to back and bring on. or maybe she has and this is what was recommended.
They must be taking a loss at that price.
As you say what a jump!!!!
One wonders why she hasn't been sent to a professional to back and bring on. or maybe she has and this is what was recommended.
They must be taking a loss at that price.
As you say what a jump!!!!
SpringArising
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She might not be that bad. What's too much for one is a walk in the park for others.
Quirky horses improve quickly with good handling!
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Big alarm bells for me. They are 'massively overstocked' and so they are used to horses in a big way, but they can't handle her. My money would be on that they have tried to break her and failed, or at least tried to sit on her and think it's going to take a long time or that she really is a total nut job and they know it.
The jump looks spectacular but in fact she has judged it really badly and jumped far, far, higher than the fence warrants. It's only one photo, but I would also want to investigate whether she is making a strange roach shape in the back half of her back.
The jump looks spectacular but in fact she has judged it really badly and jumped far, far, higher than the fence warrants. It's only one photo, but I would also want to investigate whether she is making a strange roach shape in the back half of her back.
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Finlib
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Hope she finds a kind experienced home where she can develop the talent she obviously has not someone who wants to make money quickly,
Good luck little mare
Good luck little mare
Wagtail
Horse servant
Good point re the over stock. I too noticed her back being very dipped behind the wither but then thought maybe it's because her head carriage is high and maybe she just has a supple back. But you're right, it does look a little odd.
Goldenstar
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Lovely mare I expect she will be a nightmare to handle .
But she's a fairly priced project for an experianced person with enough time to do it properly .
But she's a fairly priced project for an experianced person with enough time to do it properly .
HeresHoping
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She looks lovely. Not enough bone for me, personally, and I don't need a nutcase. For that price you could afford a full set of x-rays and if her back came up clear, crack on.
FlyingCircus
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For those interested, I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UwgzPIFaXE
FlyingCircus
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Holy moly. She was sold for around £5250..and now she's £1.5k nearly...that's rather a big loss!!
Finlib
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I thought they were taking a big loss on her as was said on another post she seems to be at an experienced place which makes you wonder why she couldn't be sorted!
Nightmare before Christmas
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i know the yard, they are normally honest. Prob dont have time for an opinionated one
although it says too much for current owner which makes me think these are the pictures from before they bought it...
although it says too much for current owner which makes me think these are the pictures from before they bought it...
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
All leg movement, back completely devoid of muscle movementl. I would want x rays of the whole spine.
Barton Stud? A stud finds a youngster too much to handle?
Dobermonkey
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The pictures are from the when she was originally advertised. The place updated her details as sold 9 months ago ( that's not to say they were slow to update). Recent ocd screened? No mention of ocd screen on original advert?
Nightmare before Christmas
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yes pics are from the original owner and reused to re advertise I would say
Dobermonkey
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TheMule
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She won't land on her left hind in that vid. Big indicator of problems
DabDab
Ah mud, splendid
Yes you're right, and veers off to the right every time even though there's a wall there. Something odd about her conformation when moving as well though I can't put my finger on what...
Does someone have a link to the advert?
FlyingCircus
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Assuming you mean her old ad, it's on the FB someone else has already linked and this site http://www.staffordbartonstud.co.uk/#!sporthorses/cjg9
SpringArising
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Nothing about that video concerns me. I just see a young, inexperienced horse. Plenty of horses choose to land on a certain leg; she's not landing on her left-hind because she's choosing to land on her right-fore.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/clas...y-project-mare-zacharov-x-holland-461036.html
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/clas...y-project-mare-zacharov-x-holland-461036.html
hihosilver
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So a £5000 horse is now a £1000 horse? I would put money on that they tried to break her and failed.
FlyingCircus
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I would guess similar also.
I don't see any other reason why someone would be willing to take £4k less than they spent on the horse less than a year ago...
If the horse is really so amazing, why not send it to a pro to break, then sell for less of a loss? :s
Finlib
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On the original advert is states ideal brood mare .I can see her ending up being bought and bred from producing foals for an already difficult market sales wise
Like hihosilver I would be very surprised at her taking such a dive price wise because she is ' sharp' it seems an experience place if they want to move her on in less than a year one has to wonder what has been done with her.
only_me
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Or it could be that the mare didn't do well in a busy environment and could well do better in a quiet yard with only a couple other horses.
I think looks nice and could be worth a punt, ability is there it just depends on how opinionated horse is on the ground lol.
I think looks nice and could be worth a punt, ability is there it just depends on how opinionated horse is on the ground lol.
SpringArising
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Even if they did that, they'd probably only be able to knock on another £1000 or so. After the fees of a pro, it probably wouldn't be worth it.
There could be a very genuine reason, but maybe there is something going on.
Either way, at least they're upfront about her personality and haven't got her up for a stupid price. If someone chooses to buy and not vet, then that's on them.
alainax
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Maybe its sales livery? So its not actually the studs horse but selling it on behalf of the person who imported her and could not handle her. Just a thought 
She is very pretty, and if its healthy will be a bargain for someone with the ability.
She is very pretty, and if its healthy will be a bargain for someone with the ability.