16.3hh chestnut gelding for sale - warning

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I'm not going to go into too many details on here as this is obviously very sensitive but this horse is now being remarketed with a totally different name and he was originally 17hh but is now 16.3hh.

I rang to view him, he has very good breeding but was suspiciously cheap.

The man selling him said he had broken his leg and I would therefore not be able to see the horse ridden but was welcome to ride him in his field myself. I declined due to that and the video I was sent where I felt he was being ridden with kid gloves by what appeared to be a pro rider.

The reason why he was selling him was also suspicious. When I asked what his name was there was a big silence and then a name was quickly given (almost as if it had been just thought of) which I thought was extremely odd. Of course it's not his real name!

He was for sale by a dealer sales livery in the Midlands area about 8 months ago who must have sold him to this man. From what I have been told by people they have a rubbish reputation also which is why I didn't view him at the time. They are on dodgy dealers numerous times and the owner has a number of CCJ's against her.

Please be very careful if anyone on here is going to try a 16.3hh chestnut gelding in the Midlands area. I'd hate you to buy something you may end up regretting or that might hurt you, either financially or physically.
 
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If it's the one with comments on the ad about being cold-backed it was also sold locally to me a year or so ago before ending up at the dealer, with similar comments about it being miss-sold and quite dangerous.
 
Is the horse still with the same people who were trying to sell him in May? Just that one of the photos is the same but the phone no. on this advert belongs to a female.
 
I recently asked for details about a horse for sale, not this one, that was with a reputable sales livery. I was concerned about soundness, and my instructor agreed the horse didn't look right, so didn't pursue. This horse moved from one sales livery to another and there have now been posts by the current sales livery saying the horse had passed a vetting and provisionally been sold for a mid teens figure, but people who had previously known the horse had come forward and shared that the horse had previously had laminitis and a number of joints injected. This information had apparently not been disclosed when the horse was bought by their current owner, who is now trying to sell. The current sales livery has done the right thing and made the information public. What I found particularly worrying was the fact that although the horse looked off in the videos I was sent they evidently presented sound enough in person when trialled and when vetted.

It would have been very easy for me to have had my previous mare treated with more steroids and sold her for a significant amount of money. The vet who treated her on rehab was not our usual vet so I could have presented her as having a successful rehab following the initial treatment from our usual vet. This is something I would never do, but obviously others will and do.

The demand for leisure/ family horses is intense at present and there remain very few available. I met someone last week who is searching for exactly the same type as me, has been up and down the UK and has almost doubled their budget. They have either found the horse has been sold, has not been sound when viewed or has failed the vetting.

I am worried this level of demand and the consequent increase in price will continue to encourage some sellers to be less than honest.

The purchaser and the horse then both loose out.
 
Nothing to add on the chestnut horse but....


A friend of a friend went to try a horse from a well known showjumper. She liked it and he offered to give her a free lesson if she came back to try it again. She was a bit star struck and went back but at the last minute, he wasn't available for the free lesson but she bought the horse anyway after trying it again. Back at her yard, the horse became increasingly dangerous to handle and she contacted to say she wanted to return and get her money back. He said no as it was bought under his wife's name and so had nothing to do with his dealing business and the t and c's didnt apply. She had it vet checked and vet couldn't find anything to cause the behaviour. She had had a 5 stage before she bought it . She decided to cut her losses so took it to another dealer to try and sell but after a week or so they asked her to take it back as staff no longer felt safe to ride it. Eventually she got showjumper to take it back but she lost a lot of money in the process. As he was a big name, she didnt feel she would stand any chance against him in court.

People are awful
 
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The same dealer nearly had me twice! First time, I had been to look at a trailer. The lady said she had sent the horse to a dealer as it napped and had her in the side of a lorry on the road so she was selling up. I then went to view a horse with said dealer and whilst he was talking I put 2 and 2 together that it was her napping horse he was showing me!! Second time , I had been to a comp and seen a horse be quite dangerous in the warm up. I knew the owner/ rider. Went to see a horse at same dealer ( years apart) and he started to tell me about horse then mentioned owners name!! No thanks! Both times I had asked for a safe sane horse!
 
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