2 thing! Licks and digestive support

[poiuytrewq]

Hello everyone! I have two wonders!

Little grey pony has always had faecal water issues. It’s pretty bad atm and I’m not sure why. Usually I know it’s the hay or something. This time I really have no idea.
He has s tiny handful of nuts to give his pracsend in but I can’t mix a scoop of powder into it. Is there a good pelleted digestive supplement that I could try?


Next, for little old toothless pony.
Someone offered me one of those pretty gross looking molassey bucket licks, my instant reaction was to turn it down politely.
However I then thought maybe she might like something like that.
She can’t eat hay. So I thought maybe in between feeds it might give her a little something to do!

Never in a million years would I give a horse a block of sugar, but wondered if it may be ok for her introduced very slowly because she is having so little food (in comparison to a regular pony with a big haynet and who can graze more efficiently)

Or, more ideally is there a healthy big block type lick I could try? Something that’s not pure sugar but she’s not really interested in the salt they already have available so not salt based either.

A giant pony cube to lick and suck at would be ideal!

Thank you!

 

[tda]

Is it worth trying oily herbs for little grey pony?
And I wouldn't give molasses lick to anything, but I suppose toothless might enjoy a little time with it

 

[poiuytrewq]

I’ve tried a mix of oregano, rosemary and something else can’t think which now but it was recommended on here. Mixed with a little speedibeet but he wasn’t keen.
I may have the worlds first fussy Shetland!

 

[Fastasflames]

have you tried protexin gut bind for a few days followed by just the regular protexin supplement.

 

[I'm Dun]

I'd find a way to get him to eat the oily herbs, mint maybe? And there's low sugar licks you can get which still look gross and sticky/sugary but aren't. My trimmer uses them if anything is anxious when being trimmed and they seem to love them

 

[Britestar]

I would suggest the FWS is because of the prascend.

Mine old boy has been on prascend for about 6 years. He loose droppings were a real issue.
His tail was a solid lump, his legs were constantly covered, and he had sores on his bum. Plus he was loosing weight. No amount of washing was keeping it clear, and no amount of probiotics/ feeds/ supplements made any difference.

Due to a few colic episodes (also related??), I took him off the tablet. Within 3 days no more fws, he's better in general, put a little weight on. He remains off the tablet.

 

[MagicMelon]

Have you had her cushings checked? I had a shetland who was on prescend for months fine, then started getting fecal water and worked out it was the prescend causing it. We had to reduce the amount of prescend but then that caused her to show signs of getting laminitis. We sadly couldnt get her right in the end (and we were talking the difference between a tiny bit of a tiny pill).

 

[poiuytrewq]

have you tried protexin gut bind for a few days followed by just the regular protexin supplement.

I may try the Protexin syringe for a while and see how that go’s
Unfortunately the regular Protexin, which would be my go to it only powder form.

Cushings is all good and under control, he has had the FWS for longer than the Cushings diagnosis, he’s only on a quarter pill a day.
I suspect he’s eating something particularly stalky in the hedge or something. It’s usually if I have coarse or stalky hay, or feed chaff. This time he’s been on the same bale of hay for ages.
He only gets soft green grass so it’s not that.

I'd find a way to get him to eat the oily herbs, mint maybe? And there's low sugar licks you can get which still look gross and sticky/sugary but aren't. My trimmer uses them if anything is anxious when being trimmed and they seem to love them

Any idea what brand they are so I could search?

He just doesn’t really get proper feed to hide stuff in and isn’t overly hungry!

I thought if I can find something in pellet form I could just hand feed it as that’s a sure fire way of getting something into him.

 

[I'm Dun]

If you put low sugar horse lick into google there's 3 or 4 brands, saracen, herby lick or similar and one of the horse lyx one is low sugar as well I think

 

[meleeka]

I may try the Protexin syringe for a while and see how that go’s
Unfortunately the regular Protexin, which would be my go to it only powder form.

Cushings is all good and under control, he has had the FWS for longer than the Cushings diagnosis, he’s only on a quarter pill a day.
I suspect he’s eating something particularly stalky in the hedge or something. It’s usually if I have coarse or stalky hay, or feed chaff. This time he’s been on the same bale of hay for ages.
He only gets soft green grass so it’s not that.


Any idea what brand they are so I could search?

He just doesn’t really get proper feed to hide stuff in and isn’t overly hungry!

I thought if I can find something in pellet form I could just hand feed it as that’s a sure fire way of getting something into him.

I think you are right about the FWS. I'm desperately waiting for new hay as my old mare is still squitty. Shes normally ok on fine hay, but it's courser than usual at the moment and coupled with the coarse grass she's currently eating, it's caused a flare up that's unusual at this time of year. If yours is very windy with it I do rate Acid Ease. Mine is currently on that and Gut Bind (Gut bind dries her up but then she's uncomfortable as she's still windy but can't pass it as easily).

Herbilix do a low calorie lick, but I haven't tried it as mine love their Himalayan licks.

 

[GypsGal1718]

If you wet the handful of nuts then you can mix a powder in, the fussy ones like may prefer if it is just fluffy not soupy

 

[poiuytrewq]

I think you are right about the FWS. I'm desperately waiting for new hay as my old mare is still squitty. Shes normally ok on fine hay, but it's courser than usual at the moment and coupled with the coarse grass she's currently eating, it's caused a flare up that's unusual at this time of year. If yours is very windy with it I do rate Acid Ease. Mine is currently on that and Gut Bind (Gut bind dries her up but then she's uncomfortable as she's still windy but can't pass it as easily).


Herbilix do a low calorie lick, but I haven't tried it as mine love their Himalayan licks.

I don’t think he’s particularly windy, just constantly covered in poo. Luckily he doesn’t get sore


I *think this year we have made some pony tummy friendly hay
It’s so annoying isn’t it when they are doing well and out of the blue it all go’s wrong.

Thanks I’ll have a look at Herbilix.
The other ponies have Himalayan licks and I get through quite a lot of them!
She’s not interested though, I’ve never seen her at it at all.

 

[Goldenstar]

I would not give the sticky lick .
I would try soaked grass cubes .
Protexin gut bind is a powder and did help my watery horse although it was not a complete cure.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I’ve tried a mix of oregano, rosemary and something else can’t think which now but it was recommended on here. Mixed with a little speedibeet but he wasn’t keen.
I may have the worlds first fussy Shetland!

Start with a tiny amount and slowly increase the dose.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Protexin gut sponge can help but it is a powder but mine ate it in a small feed I think its mainly bentonite clay.

 

[poiuytrewq]

Protexin gut sponge can help but it is a powder but mine ate it in a small feed I think its mainly bentonite clay.

How big is the scoop roughly?

I'm not sure i want to start giving a very over weight pony a bucket feed he doesn't need to get a supplement into him is my problem. I think I'd rather he just needed a lot of washing than got even fatter!
I wish I could pinch some of his teeth and pop them in old pony instead, making her a bit fatter and him a bit thinner!!

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

It's alot of powder mine have 2 big scoops but your would probably only need 1 it's quite palatable as mine are fussy but eat it.

 

[meleeka]

How big is the scoop roughly?

I'm not sure i want to start giving a very over weight pony a bucket feed he doesn't need to get a supplement into him is my problem. I think I'd rather he just needed a lot of washing than got even fatter!
I wish I could pinch some of his teeth and pop them in old pony instead, making her a bit fatter and him a bit thinner!!

It's 50g so quite a lot. My old mare has 1/2 a scoop. It took a couple of weeks to get to that though as I have to start off with 2 grains and increase a little each day, or she won't eat it.

You could try Chia seeds. They appeared to work quite well and aren't a powder. There's a FB page Equine Free Fecal Water Syndrome which is quite helpful.