2012 Breeding Plans

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Just wondering who's already thinking about 2012 coverings?

I've been thinking of stallions for the past couple of months, but not made any decisions yet. My mare is due in March, and I like to be organised... plus I get bored on dark nights and stallion shopping keeps me busy :cool:
 
Mines been booked for this years covering since August last year - shes back off to Hellvelyn, goes on the 27th to go under lights and be covered asap. She was in foal to him last year (was due on the 3oth Jan) but she aborted in September. Hopefully we will have more luck this time !!!

If it makes you feel any better - Im already in negotiations with Shadwell to go to one of theirs in 2013.... ;)
 
mine are all booked already, have one going to casanovo du domain z, one/two going to craig, 3/4 to loulou de villiers and possibly a pony stallion, but that depends on new mare arriving!
 
Mine are up in the air and dependent on how foalings go, finances, etc etc etc. BUT all going well I will have one to Craig, one to Groomsbridge May I, one to H Tobago, MAYBE one to Avanti Amorous Archie and MAYBE one other.....all depends on a lot of factors though.
 
if all goes to plan i will have a 00Seven mare going to Uthopia. A Flemingh Mare going to Valeur R, An embryo transfer to Hotline with my Dimmagio filly and possibly another to Dimmagio himself.
 
Most of ours will be covered by Groomsbridge May I which is predictable but i do have one i think going to our older boy High Tension as i think he will be back covering after injury and a couple to our new TB boy Colonel Sherman.
Im also going to use our young May I/Inschallah II colt on a couple to see what he throws which leaves me with one that i need an outcross for.
Biggish full TB mare by High Tension who could do with something 50% TB ,not sure where i'm going with this one yet at all.
Something like Tresor Mail could suit ,dont know at all yet
 
How I enjoy the musings, doubts and balanced concerns of others!!

Dunno, really. We have a young Rock King mare who is out of an Int. Adv. mare, and who could do with some time out. Her own dam was very slow to make up, but went Adv. over a very short period.

She's a tall open framed mare, and whilst we have frozen semen in store, from Check In, we have had two lovely foals here this year, by No Limit. One of the foals, through no fault of his own, and an ET foal, has been pts. The other, out of a decent mare, and herself a filly, has decided to mend her ways, and I'm rather taken with her.

We have no foals due this year, but will have at least two mares to go in foal, in a few months.

Again, Dunno!! We'll see what happens. ;)

Alec.
 
I am still at the "confused" stage and spending every night stallion shopping! I have an appaloosa mare I MUST cover but i would prefer to use a Knabstrupper stallion and I have fallen for Future Illusion for my TB mare but my bank balance will be in minus funds if I try and stretch to the two coverings. Even toying with using Crowns Wonder Pearl or Dunhill Desert Storm on BOTH mares (if I can get a discount) just for the hell of experimenting with colour!
Sooooo confused but I like to be organised so I wish I could decide so all help gratefully received!
 
One due in May but not putting her back in foal, if all goes well she is coming back into work once foalie is weaned and will be school-mastering a friend for a few years. Then I may breed her again for one to keep (this years is already sold). I have a rising 2yo colt and if he proves his worth once backed I may use him with her as his conformational strengths would really compliment her weaker points and it would let me see what he produces.

P is completely retired from breeding unless I win the lottery, then I would ET her, apart from age (she is 23yo this year) she almost severed her SDFT in August and would not risk it with the excess weight from a foal.

My 5yo is only just starting her competition career and needs to prove herself before having any babies.
 
no one bite my head clean off please but-
do you all breed knowing there will be buyers for what you breed? It's odd that people talk about people breeding year after year and flooding an already crowded market, but there are professionals doing it too??

I admit that you are breeding quality not cr*p but isn't it sort of the same principle? Sorry if i phrased that wrong or said it in a way that offends any of you :o
 
Tazhazzareindeer said:
no one bite my head clean off please but-
do you all breed knowing there will be buyers for what you breed? It's odd that people talk about people breeding year after year and flooding an already crowded market, but there are professionals doing it too??

I admit that you are breeding quality not cr*p but isn't it sort of the same principle? Sorry if i phrased that wrong or said it in a way that offends any of you :o
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A valid point in these troubled times - selling youngsters is and will continue to be tough. My philosophy is to breed the very best I can in terms of pedigree, conformation and of course commerciality. The reality is still.... only do it if you are prepared to keep them until they are rising 4 yr olds or take the price market conditions dictate! As a result we have 5 rising 2 yr olds!

I have been looking at stallions trying to balance stud fees into the equation. Probably the most expensive thing I will do is cover the Concorde mare with Indoctro, thereafter I will select stallions who have proven themselves competing to a decent level or/and have stock out doing the job, thereby creating their own demand. However the one slightly mad thing I want to do is breed a bucksin/dun in a really good moving event stamp so will be looking at those scary cremello creatures shortly!

OH has vehmently suggested an interest in breeding Guinea Pigs may be more sensible financially.....he did not see the funnyside at all when I pointed out a little colony of relatives behing the muck heap:rolleyes:

It is hard to decide before this year's foals arrive, hopefully you made the perfect matches last year and do not need to change!
 
I've only got one broodmare but she has been amazing at everything she's ever been asked to do. She's BSJAed, bloodhounded over some enormous country and competed in dressage to PSG winning the best of her breed in the country and coming in the top 50 in the UK in the process. I've owned her for almost 19 years now (can't believe its so long!) and she's being as good a broodmare as she was a competition mare. She was always sound and achieved everything on 3 rides a week with her amateur owner. Love her to pieces!

She's had two foals so far, both colts by Silvermoon, the sire of Blue Hors Matine. The first sold to an Advanced eventer, the second I'm keeping. She's currently carrying a foal by Upton's Deli Circus. That one will be for sale. Several friends are interested but none of them are in a position to have a foal right now. Hopefully there will be a good home for a foal from two proven, sound parents with fantastic temperaments.

As long as her foaling in 2012 goes smoothly her last foal will be for me for dressage. I'm going to put her to De Niro. I'm so excited about this one and it hasn't even been conceived yet. LOL! And that will be her last foal. I promised her that if she gave me 4 foals I'd retire her afterwards. So far she's been the perfect broodmare, getting in foal easily, having truly beautiful foals and being a wonderful mum. I want to make sure she has a long and happy retirement. She's definitely earned it. :o)
 
I will probably leave my Perlino mare empty this year, she could well end up as a field ornament as I wouldn't sell her ! In a theoretical world (no emotion!), I would swap her for a SJ youngster for my daughter to bring on.
 
Tazhazzareindeer said:
no one bite my head clean off please but-
do you all breed knowing there will be buyers for what you breed? It's odd that people talk about people breeding year after year and flooding an already crowded market, but there are professionals doing it too??

I admit that you are breeding quality not cr*p but isn't it sort of the same principle? Sorry if i phrased that wrong or said it in a way that offends any of you :o
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I'm probably not your 'standard' breeder as I mostly breed for myself, I've also bred from mares proven to a high level in competition that have stayed sound.
My old lady low level evented first then competed successfully up to Inter I, had her first foal and then returned to competition. She retired sound from competition at 19yo and had her last two foals at 21yo and 22yo. I had planned to sell the colt but lost this years filly foal and he managed to get a nail through his foot while on livery elsewhere. Made a full recovery but as he is now effectively the mare's last foal and he has been judged as stallion potential he is staying (I don't really like geldings to ride). I could sell him tomorrow as my trainer would buy him like a shot, she has already reserved him should I ever decide to sell. If he was to be gelded I would sell him, so it is up to him to prove he's good enough to keep the family jewels.

The in-foal mare has just retired from competition at PSG level. Also still sound. Her foal has been 'booked' by the buyer since 2007. She knows the mare, loves her temperament, trainability and movement. She is also graded with SHB-GB with a head mare book mark.
Stallion was selected in consultation with buyer as she wants something as a good all rounder with potential to event. The stallion is dual purpose, mare jumps like a stag and is bred from jumping/eventing parents, just happens to be a very good dressage horse as well. We have taken a bit of a punt on the stallion as it is his first season at stud but he had what we wanted in lines, temperament, conformation and talent.
 
Tazhazzareindeer said:
no one bite my head clean off please but-
do you all breed knowing there will be buyers for what you breed? It's odd that people talk about people breeding year after year and flooding an already crowded market, but there are professionals doing it too??

I admit that you are breeding quality not cr*p but isn't it sort of the same principle? Sorry if i phrased that wrong or said it in a way that offends any of you :o
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Ive sold 6 out of 7 of my foals this year with little trouble (in fact most were sold without advertising)but dont have any foals due this year as we are moving in 4 weeks so yes i will cover all of my mares for 2013 foals as i will probably have a waiting list for at least some by then.
 
Think I am 99% sure Millie (One More Tiger x Inchinor x High Top) is going to Carousel.

I love Balloon but too expensive for frozen with no terms on the semen and no progeny to look at under saddle... maybe for 2013 but I am sure he will be much more expensive then!
 
Very long shot as I'm hoping that my mare will be sound when she comes back into work this year.

If not, then I probably will end up breeding from her as her first foal was super& she was a great mother.

But literally can't find a stallion I like! I am loathe to use something. with too much warmblood.
Would like to find a small ( under 16.2 HH) well made stallion with plenty of blood and feistiness, that has competed to a high level in showjumping, that is quick, easy and balanced with a good mouth. Haven't found anything that meets this criteria yet!
 
My Fleetwater Opposition mare is going to King Cotton Gold to hopefully produce a really nice, rideable type to event and do WH classes. I am nervously excited :)
 
If i could i would have repeated the breeding with Wolkenderry as my mare gave me a cracking filly last year but i feel she is too old to risk breeding again and now happily back in work.
Not breeding at all for a few years but still going to Addington to view the stallions i have mind for the future, i'd like to see the boys in the flesh and keep an eye on competition record and foals produced.

Good luck everyone!
 
Iv have decided three times since the back end of last year. I have been certain I have decided three times since the back end of last year, and I have changed my mind three times since last year!!!!
I've gone from Chilli Morning, to Wish Upon a Star...to Treliver Decanter!! Have seen them all and their progeny in the flesh and it is near impossible to pick one, but the latter two will hopefully improve my mare's good, but not spectacular movement.
I think we have finally settled on Treliver Decanter :rolleyes:
but we aren't making our final decision until The stallion parade at Hartpury.

Tazhazzareindeer said:
do you all breed knowing there will be buyers for what you breed? It's odd that people talk about people breeding year after year and flooding an already crowded market, but there are professionals doing it too??
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This is the second foal we have bred and are keeping it.
 
I am not breeding this year- I only have one mare.

I underestimated how bad the Market is totally. I have a colt who will be two next year and I will keep him as I won't let him be sold for peanuts.

I have a foal due in 9 weeks and I hope to sell that before weaning- although I am not so worried about price with that one- hopefully cover my costs.

It would be irresponsible of me personally to breed again this year as I want to make sure I can find good homes for them. I also need to cut back on my horses as I will have to start a family of my own in due course.

Good luck to all breeding this year x
 
Hi
All being well, I have 4 foals due this year
2 by Ustinov (coloured 4yo stallion)
1 by Decopauge
1 by Solaris Buenno
All out of graded mares

And have been thinking about stallions for a month now.
I have a free returns to:-
Barcutan Zulu Cheif
And Hollyland O'donovan

and the other 2 mares (again all being well) will be covered by WOW a well bred young coloured colt.

Exciting times stallion shopping :)
 
At work all the big guns will be used, as per usual - Galileo, Danehill Dancer, Montjeu, Street Cry, Distorted Humor, Cape Cross, Sea The Stars, Dalakhani, Dansili, Oasis Dream, Pivotal, Azamour, Acclamation, Equiano, Manduro, Mount Nelson, Bahamian Bounty, Kyllachy, Medicean, Dutch Art and a lot of others - over 100 mares to breed!
 
I have enough frozen semen in my nitro tank for this year however I keep seeing other stallion/mare matches that I'd like to try so I have reserved frozen from those stallions too. I've pretty much decided who I'm breeding to who but the beauty of storing my own frozen semen is that I can chop and change which stallion to use right up till the last minute :)
 
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