2012 Breeding Plans

We've retained 4 foals (out of eventually 26 :eek:) from the 2011 season. 1 colt we feel has a lot of potential, 3 fillies to either bring new blood to the breeding program (since they used outside stallions) or show and eventually breed.

We've already had foal one of 2011 - warmer climate - not one of ours, just a mare on livery, but we have 14 due this year on our farm, and our boys serviced quite a few mares so they'll finally be born too.

We'll be cutting down how many we breed internally for 2012, since OH+I run the stud, and we've just had our first baby ourselves, so we want to have more time with her. Although I have to say, little one seems to quite like the stallions...
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I am planning the following

Pro Set Mare will go to Flayne Don Daiquiri early as she isnt in foal for 2012
Fleetwater Opposition Mare - Greenvale Audacity (newly Approved CHAPS stallion)
2 Quarter Horse mares - Waccabuc Bay Charger (Quarter Horse stallion)

TB mare will probably have a year off as she's due in June or use a young stallion Bavarnno on her or tempted to use Thornwick Challenger again as loved her foal this year by him.
Welton Apollo mare thats on loan may go home or if she stays for another year will go to Greenvale Audacity.

Obviously horses being horses these plans may change!!!
 
Sportznight said:
At work all the big guns will be used, as per usual - Galileo, Danehill Dancer, Montjeu, Street Cry, Distorted Humor, Cape Cross, Sea The Stars, Dalakhani, Dansili, Oasis Dream, Pivotal, Azamour, Acclamation, Equiano, Manduro, Mount Nelson, Bahamian Bounty, Kyllachy, Medicean, Dutch Art and a lot of others - over 100 mares to breed!
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**Need a bulging eye smiley!**

Will put most of mine to my own stallion - Aeroplane. Just haven't decided which ones yet!
Most likely to be the 2 due to foal to him this year, although could decide to race the one again. Also have a Moscow Society mare which undecided whether to race on, an Inchinor who is in training but could be past it. Other mare is a Catcher In The Rye, so will probably go elsewhere. Oh and random mare who the owners want covered by Hellevyn (they can cover her with what they like she ain't gonna take, but they want 'one last try').
 
I am still in the process of deciding which mares will be covered so still on a stallion short list. At the moment these include: Semper Fi (Stakkato), Fair Play du Manoir (Qredo De Paulstra), Undercover? (Heartbreaker) and Caretino Glory (Cheenook).
However I have decided that Werza (Goodtimes) will be going to Hemmingway (Leandro) and Clueless (Makrancos) will be going to Treliver Decanter (Dimaggio) :)
 
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Yorketown said:
I am still in the process of deciding which mares will be covered so still on a stallion short list. At the moment these include: Semper Fi (Stakkato), Fair Play du Manoir (Qredo De Paulstra), Undercover? (Heartbreaker) and Caretino Glory (Cheenook).
However I have decided that Werza (Goodtimes) will be going to Hemmingway (Leandro) and Clueless (Makrancos) will be going to Treliver Decanter (Dimaggio) :)
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Have to say i love Undercover, hopeing to use him next year dont have enough mares this year to cover.
 
stoneybroke said:
A valid point in these troubled times - selling youngsters is and will continue to be tough. My philosophy is to breed the very best I can in terms of pedigree, conformation and of course commerciality. The reality is still.... only do it if you are prepared to keep them until they are rising 4 yr olds or take the price market conditions dictate! As a result we have 5 rising 2 yr olds!

I have been looking at stallions trying to balance stud fees into the equation. Probably the most expensive thing I will do is cover the Concorde mare with Indoctro, thereafter I will select stallions who have proven themselves competing to a decent level or/and have stock out doing the job, thereby creating their own demand. However the one slightly mad thing I want to do is breed a bucksin/dun in a really good moving event stamp so will be looking at those scary cremello creatures shortly!

OH has vehmently suggested an interest in breeding Guinea Pigs may be more sensible financially.....he did not see the funnyside at all when I pointed out a little colony of relatives behing the muck heap:rolleyes:

It is hard to decide before this year's foals arrive, hopefully you made the perfect matches last year and do not need to change!
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Lgd said:
I'm probably not your 'standard' breeder as I mostly breed for myself, I've also bred from mares proven to a high level in competition that have stayed sound.
My old lady low level evented first then competed successfully up to Inter I, had her first foal and then returned to competition. She retired sound from competition at 19yo and had her last two foals at 21yo and 22yo. I had planned to sell the colt but lost this years filly foal and he managed to get a nail through his foot while on livery elsewhere. Made a full recovery but as he is now effectively the mare's last foal and he has been judged as stallion potential he is staying (I don't really like geldings to ride). I could sell him tomorrow as my trainer would buy him like a shot, she has already reserved him should I ever decide to sell. If he was to be gelded I would sell him, so it is up to him to prove he's good enough to keep the family jewels.

The in-foal mare has just retired from competition at PSG level. Also still sound. Her foal has been 'booked' by the buyer since 2007. She knows the mare, loves her temperament, trainability and movement. She is also graded with SHB-GB with a head mare book mark.
Stallion was selected in consultation with buyer as she wants something as a good all rounder with potential to event. The stallion is dual purpose, mare jumps like a stag and is bred from jumping/eventing parents, just happens to be a very good dressage horse as well. We have taken a bit of a punt on the stallion as it is his first season at stud but he had what we wanted in lines, temperament, conformation and talent.
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sallyf said:
Ive sold 6 out of 7 of my foals this year with little trouble (in fact most were sold without advertising)but dont have any foals due this year as we are moving in 4 weeks so yes i will cover all of my mares for 2013 foals as i will probably have a waiting list for at least some by then.
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Ah okay. Thanks for your replies :)
 
I am so excited as I have two very exciting broodmares this year. They are both in foal at the moment, so obviously it will also depend on how their foals turn out this year as to who to put them to next year!

My first one is a Sandro Hit x Weltmeyer mare who is currently in foal to Oliver HFD (Voltaire). She is built like a real power house dressage horse, very compact and powerful but she could be put to something with finer lines and a little more modern. So for her I have been thinking along the lines of Quarterback, Hotline or Rousseau. As I say, I am a little less decided on her and am going to wait until her foalie comes this year.

The second lady is a Royal of Loh x Leibniz x Wapiti mare in foal to Woodlander Rockstar. She is very elegant and seems to produce very elegant foals (she had a Rubin Star N foal this year who she has just weaned and he is stunning). I am very tempted to put her to Sir Donnerhall as I think it would be a really nice cross.
 
We are covering all three of our TB mares Angrove rumbaba dam bond angel eyes, star promise and marshal plat club with our homebred Homozygous Tobiano stallion Angrove spotted dick, he has also got a half sister to a group 1 winner Dick Turpin comming to him So Proud, be great to see lots of Coloured racehorses!
 
Well need to decide which mare is going to what fairly soon as start foaling in about 2 weeks.

The two mares which have consistantly produced 6 good foals each to Kings Composer will this time have to have one of the new boys, probably the Coevers Diamond Boy mare will be covered by the new TB stallion who is by Chester House out of an Alleged mare (seven years in racing and retired sound) and the Ricardo Z will hopefully go to the young grey irish sports horse stallion who has Cavalier Royal and Diamond Lad in his breeding.

As two of the other mares due this season are maiden and in foal to King, will wait to see what pops out, then decide from there.

The grey irish event mare is in foal to Krieghoff (who we no longer have due to field accident) will this time go to King (I think - not due till June so plenty of time to dither).

Fingers crossed we all have a successful season. Good luck everyone.
 
Hopefully with less horses being bred there will be a shortage in a few years which may see prices rise again. I have always known as a single mare breeder that there is no money to be made unless you get a decent price & sell as foals. I am proud of the fact that mine have all been straightforward & bought happiness to new owners when sold. Expecting a foal in March by KCG out of a TB mare who hopefully will be a replacement for the 2 mares. If I had known just how cheap foals were going to be last year then the money would have gone on a purchase rather then breeding.
 
I'm determined to get my mare in foal this year, with the plan to keep the foal. Still on the search and need to get into gear getting everything sorted!
 
sallyf said:
Most of ours will be covered by Groomsbridge May I which is predictable but i do have one i think going to our older boy High Tension as i think he will be back covering after injury and a couple to our new TB boy Colonel Sherman.
Im also going to use our young May I/Inschallah II colt on a couple to see what he throws which leaves me with one that i need an outcross for.
Biggish full TB mare by High Tension who could do with something 50% TB ,not sure where i'm going with this one yet at all.
Something like Tresor Mail could suit ,dont know at all yet
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Might Louella's new boy suit? Dam graded WBS is a TB, dam of race winner, and he is by De Niro, and also graded WBS being Champion on the day. I'm going to be looking at him I think.
 
chrissie1 said:
Might Louella's new boy suit? Dam graded WBS is a TB, dam of race winner, and he is by De Niro, and also graded WBS being Champion on the day. I'm going to be looking at him I think.
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Dam of 2 race winners actually - one being Primitive Academy (entire) and other being Destiny of a Diva. And yes also Dark De Niro now! Some mare!
 
chrissie1 said:
Might Louella's new boy suit? Dam graded WBS is a TB, dam of race winner, and he is by De Niro, and also graded WBS being Champion on the day. I'm going to be looking at him I think.
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I dont think he would suit this mare and im not sure there is enough in the bloodlines to breed an event horse to be honest .
De Niro is a fab dressage stallion and his son looks lovely but i cant see anything that recommends him as a jumping sire and i dont breed dressage horses.
Im not a huge fan of Royal Acadamy as the dam sire either although there is no doubt the mare line has produced well but i'm also not that keen on using an unproven 3 year old at that price.
I think for the money he is i could buy a dose of frozen semen from something much more proven for the job i want.
 
I'm putting my HW hunter in foal this yr. We're using Adonnis (Gribaldi).

I'm hoping it will be a good fun sports horse to take over from my semi retired SJ. I'm planning on WH showing, as the mare does well at show hunter, but would improve with more blood. Fingers crossed -So long as it has 4 legs, it will have a job doing something!

I urge anyone thinking about breeding to go to the Stallion showcase at Addington in Feb. I did, and was glad I arrived in the morning, saw all the stallions and got to see them in the flesh in the stables & meet the owners/studs.
It was a fantastic, very well organised event.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stallion-Showcase-GB/130656640322827
 
Not planning on breeding any in 2012. I have 3 due back in the Uk this year, one a keeper for sure by Carousel out of my retired advanced eventer, 1 by Furst Romanicer out of my homebred Tycoon mare and a H-Tobago foal due from my lovely older Trakehner mare Venezia.
But have decided to give myself at least a year off and see what 2013 is like before putting any more of the girls in foal.
 
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