250 Starving horses in Bridgend

How does the country go about controlling these people who let this happen and wha else they do, one rule for us and then one for them and poor animals innocent party, but if we help only encourages them to keep having more like puppy farms.
 
I hope there will be home vets for the people who are offering to take on these horses too? Sorry to sound like a party pooper but can't help but think a knee jerk reaction will only lead to some people taking in these horses and selling them or worse, not being able to look after them.

I LIVE (not love lol) in Bridgend and I haven't heard anything apart from this facebook group.
 
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I am concerned that those involved are trying to find homes for and asking for donations to feed what are essentially someone elses horses. Im further concerned that by doing this they are potentially hampering any prosecution that may be brought in the future against the owner or owners of these animals.

Its all very well being generous and enthusiastic but as far as I can see WHW and RSPCA are not overtly involved and non of those who appear to be are in any position either legally or financially to either remove animals or prosecute.

Maybe Im missing something here???
 
I have offered to help.. poor babies. :( makes my heart break.
I agree about home checking ect.. but home checking 250 homes, how/? they needs to set up some volunteers to get these guys some loving homes xx
 
The SWHP are a fantastic charity and work closely with the authorities when it comes to taking in horses/ponies in need - I would assume that they will be asked by the authorities to help, they certainly wouldn't do anything to jeopardise any investigation/prosecution.

ETS Saying that - 250 horses? That's going to take an awful lot of help to look after that many horses!!!
 
Im not doubting their credentials but it appears that the gun is being jumped! Ive been informed that RSPCA have visited the site but thats it.....surely they are the ones (or WHW) who, if there is rescue necessary, would be co ordinating any appeals or prosecutions?
 
... Slightly off topic but staying in same area ...

Can anyone in Bridgend lend a hand towards the recapture of 4 mini shetlands that have decided grass is greener on other stuff, done a bunk and are having the time of their life exploring the local countryside ?

Please PM me and I'll put you in contact with the owner.
 
there where 3 other horses in the field what looked in a poor state the rspca was not intrested,so phoned council and thay said would have a look and see if thy could remove the dead hourse,so what does the rspaca do?
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The SWP are a really well respected organisation down here - and have done some fantastic work over the years in the rescue and rehabillitation of dumped animals.

Their primary concerns have always been about the equade - and they will do anything and everything to ensure that animals are adequately fed and watered when they are alerted to a crises - with or without support from the RSPCA.

However, they will be in contact with the one or other of the big two (WHW or RSPCA) to try and work on a satisfactory outcome for these horses.
 
I don't know this group, I know of these issues, not specifically in brigend but if it's similar to that around the dudley areas and any other areas where horses/ponies are allowed to roam uncontained by their 'owners' then the following applies.

If removing these animals the person removing them will need a police officer or a defra appointed inspector AND a vet in attendance to approve that the animal is suffering and therefore requiries removal. The individual horse/pony can then be taken into care and treatment applied, the horse must be held for 14 days (unless vet approves euthanasia based on welfare reasons) then a court order must be issued handing the ownership of the animals into the hands of the charity/organisation initiating the removal. The horse/pony may then be rehomed, all in all not a quick resolution that costs a fair amount of money. If this is all being done by this group then they do need our support. If the RSPCA had been out and the horses conditions were deemed bad enough to have veterinary support for removal then this would be being done, although not immediately likely as it would take time to organise, boarding, transport, darting if required etc..! It is likely though that the conditions although bad may not have been bad enough to have gained veterinary support for removal? Hard to say what the situation is without knowing anything fully!!!!

This issue is a major thing all over the country and anyone in a position to be able to tackle it should get our support, unfortunately unless someone be that councils or councillors etc are prepared to tackle the issue at the source I'm afraid removing horses here and and there is just mopping up and not actually resolving the issue.

With regard to prosecutions, how on earth do you prove ownership?!
 
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I don't know this group, I know of these issues, not specifically in brigend but if it's similar to that around the dudley areas and any other areas where horses/ponies are allowed to roam uncontained by their 'owners' then the following applies.

If removing these animals the person removing them will need a police officer or a defra appointed inspector AND a vet in attendance to approve that the animal is suffering and therefore requiries removal. The individual horse/pony can then be taken into care and treatment applied, the horse must be held for 14 days (unless vet approves euthanasia based on welfare reasons) then a court order must be issued handing the ownership of the animals into the hands of the charity/organisation initiating the removal. The horse/pony may then be rehomed, all in all not a quick resolution that costs a fair amount of money. If this is all being done by this group then they do need our support. If the RSPCA had been out and the horses conditions were deemed bad enough to have veterinary support for removal then this would be being done, although not immediately likely as it would take time to organise, boarding, transport, darting if required etc..! It is likely though that the conditions although bad may not have been bad enough to have gained veterinary support for removal? Hard to say what the situation is without knowing anything fully!!!!

This issue is a major thing all over the country and anyone in a position to be able to tackle it should get our support, unfortunately unless someone be that councils or councillors etc are prepared to tackle the issue at the source I'm afraid removing horses here and and there is just mopping up and not actually resolving the issue.

With regard to prosecutions, how on earth do you prove ownership?!
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Exactly CD and thank you for posting the info (for those who are unaware). However it appears from the snippets that are being posted both here and on other sites that there is no co ordinated plan. Im in no way knocking anyone who wants to help in these situations however its worrying that people have, in the past, been well and truly ripped off (Im in NO way suggesting thats happening with this organisation - let me make that very clear) by sending money and goods to help 'rescue' animals when either there has been no grounds for rescue or, to put it bluntly, its been nobodies business getting involved.

Im simply trying to get as much information about whats happening to these animals as possible as Im not the only person somewhat confused about this case.
 
Exactly CD and thank you for posting the info (for those who are unaware). However it appears from the snippets that are being posted both here and on other sites that there is no co ordinated plan. Im in no way knocking anyone who wants to help in these situations however its worrying that people have, in the past, been well and truly ripped off (Im in NO way suggesting thats happening with this organisation - let me make that very clear) by sending money and goods to help 'rescue' animals when either there has been no grounds for rescue or, to put it bluntly, its been nobodies business getting involved.
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They won't do anything outside the law. All they want to do is essentially ensure the horses are adquately provided for in terms of feed and water. The RSPCA will be involved as will other agencies.

This organisation are above reproach and will be working extremely hard as possible to ensure a satisfactory outcome.

They are not asking people to come and remove and re-home them.

They are not some charliton organisation.

Like any small organisation (I'm thinking of EMW here) they always need money to support their rescues - and are not touting specifically for this cause.
 
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Have been filled in a bit more on the situation now Amymay and offer my fullest support.

This has been in no way an attempt to decry the great work this and other charities do and as you know I am a supporter of a number of smaller organisations and can only praise the dedication many people offer to horses both here in the UK and overseas.

If my posts have led anyone to doubt SWP then please be assured this has not been my intention in any way.
 
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Have been filled in a bit more on the situation now Amymay and offer my fullest support.

This has been in no way an attempt to decry the great work this and other charities do and as you know I am a great supporter of a number of smaller organisations and can only praise the dedication many people offer to horses both here in the UK and overseas.
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They are brilliant - and their credentials beyond reproach :)
 
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I'm yet to hear where these horses are...odd that 250 horses and no one locally has any idea where they are!!
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I thought it odd too, no other media coverage (unlike Evening Post, they`re obsessed with the Llanelli lot) plus 250 horses, bound to be split into herds so not so hard to spot.....
 
I do know where they are, but SWHP are asking people on various fb threads NOT to go looking for them as the owner may well move them somewhere else if he thinks he has been 'sussed'. These are owned by the same family as the Llanelli horses, I believe.
 
Ashamed this could be happening on my own doorstep, if I was to starve my horse and cause the death of a few others of mine on a livery yard imagine what would happen to me within days. Sorry but it sickens me, 5 dead horses already! I just find that after 5 dead horses surely neglect has already been very well established.
 
I agree - I don't pretend to know a great deal about the rscpa and their ability to prosecute etc but it seems like the same old story over and over again - if people know who owns them and 5 are already dead - why the hell isn't it a cut and dry case?

It just seems like the welfare system for animals is failing.
 
My written French is just as funny.

Good for them for highlighting conditions and in France too - particularly interested in the Strasbourg Riding Club, which I think I have visited. Won't comment here.

I think the local charity were interviewed on Farming Today, Radio Four about two weeks ago when they had already arranged for the horses to receive hay.
 
the RSPCA seem to be very good at doing nothing. im not suprised that they havent taken much interest tbh. from what im aware of it took them about six months before doing anything about the amasham case and only when other organisations and the police get involved did they bother to act.

i think people just need to be careful before jumping in and getting burned. know of too many people who have ended up on the wrong side of the law trying to help in similar situations.
 
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the RSPCA seem to be very good at doing nothing. im not suprised that they havent taken much interest tbh. from what im aware of it took them about six months before doing anything about the amasham case and only when other organisations and the police get involved did they bother to act.

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As annoying as it is, it's usually because the law ties their hands!!! Not because they like doing nothing!!! There is no information here as to whether they have even been involved! So without such information (not heresay either) then people cannot comment! If anyone has information about these horses plight and any proof of ownership, please call either the rspca or WHW asap, make sure they are involved....
 
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