2yr old pain in the backside !!! grrrrrr......

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Just had my p/b arab Rio gelded 16 days ago due to his coltish behaviour and yard policy, his behaviour is better but needs to be turned out to chill and calm down vet said wait 7-10 days but I waited 14 as field mixed mares and geldings.1 fell gelding 1 r/p filly 1 coloured p/b filly and sec c gelding 5 yr old all mine in the field along with an older approx 8 yr old r/p mare belonging to another livery. When I turned him out Friday my sec c gelding was attrocious with him charging at him very aggresivley (he is rather friendly with the older mare in particular) keeping him away from the others even though Rio wasnt even trying to get near them and continuously running him around the field. After hours of this behaviour I decided enough was enough Rio was stressed pacing along the fence and circling at the gate so i went to get him.As I arrived at the gate the older mare was coming to Rio at the gate she had left all the others right at the top of the field she was very obviously in season and was constantly shoving herself in his face ( im sure i dont need to explain in detail:))hes never covered so didnt know what she wanted he was creeping to her and then trying to feed off her but she persisted with a vengance and eventually the penny dropped he covered her. I didnt see any fluid come from him only her after he got off she just cantered back up the field to the others I was bloody gobsmacked at what Id just seen it was so obvious what she had come over for!!!! I took Rio out the field and he stayed in until today when i tried him alone in field with my sec c they were ok until I introduced my coloured filly and then he was off again charging at him so I brought my sec c out this time and then put all the rest in which was reasonably ok apart from the older mare again as soon as she went through the gate she was off again and again he covered her!!!Now to be fair to my Rio he wasnt interested its all the mare but Im obviously concerned in case he could be fertile still even though the vet had said he wouldnt be also I dont want him to become one of those geldings that thinks he can mount any mare in season now hes done it,and I dont want him to become attached to this mares which knowing my luck he will or we will probably have behaviour problems again .Also I dont want to have to keep my sec c in his stable indefinatley as hes usually quite a good boy Im presuming he still thinks Rios a colt like the bloody tarty mare does. Im hoping someone as some ideas and can answer my questions especially the fertility one also bare in mind I am on a livery yard so not a lot of flexibility really . Thanks for reading
 
He can still put a mare into foal upto 6 wks after castration , so
Please bear that I'n mind as you may need to get mare checked
just because a horse is a gelding does not take away the stallion type behaviors. a stallion only has more drive to do what he does, but pretty much the only thing different between the two is the ability to have kids...
it sounds like these geldings have dominant type personalities, along with a bit of dysfunction. in a herd with more dominant personalities (like when the one gelding was in a large herd), then he'll get relegated to wherever his personality lets him. the stronger the personality, the higher up in the pecking order. it is very natural for the dominant horse in the group to herd other horses in his "herd" and chase off (violently at times) horses that are not part of his herd. it's exactly what the horse would do in a real herd. he doesnt know its not what you want, because its pure instinct.
 
well iof Rio has been out with the girls prior to his op you might well have some babies due next year. surprised if you are on a livery yard that mares and geldings (and esp colts from 6 months on!) are left to run together. colts can still be fertile up to 6 weeks aft4er the chop. will await your update on the babies next march/april. tho as an owner of a colt i think you have been albeit naive, negligent. if the one mare who is not yours is in foal, get ready for a large bill.
 
I'm amazed that your vet didn't tell you that the colt would be fertile for at least 6 weeks and therefore needed to be kept away from mares for a minimum of that timescale :eek:
 
Rio was NOT out with anything else before he was gelded Im not that stupid!! I havent said in my post he was, and as I did ask the vet how long before he could go out and left it past the time he said how is that irresponsible exactly??? So can anyone tell me how the sperm stays alive for 6 weeks in tubes that have been cut ? Im asking this as the vet that castrated him said its highly unlikely so do I just disbeleive him then ?? As im not a vet myself id think it was very rude to question his knowledge.
 
Jeez don't get shirty, you asked question and several of us replied. And I may be getting on a bit ,but always told 6 weeks after gelding, maybe vet advice has either moved on or not many vets that really deal with horses. One of my vets called my bay mare a chestnut and my brown mare black??
 
anything that has been castrated (man, dig, cat, horse) is still able to get a female (of their own species) pregnant. i daresay your vet said he could be turned out as in in a field .. not in a field with girlies! as he was not out with anything before he was chopped, he is obviously used to going out by himself. why didnt you just continue this arrangement. I have never met a vet who minded being questioned by a concerning owner.
 
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