3.5 ton horse box high mileage

[Iloveeverycat]

Very unusual but what has been compromised to get the weight to 3.5t on an Iveco Daily. They are normall 5.2t or 6.5t builds. I'm sure you think we are all being over cautious but you can't be too sure these days

i don’t think you’re all being over cautious - if I wasn’t being cautious I wouldn’t have asked on here ?

 

[Iloveeverycat]

Can you send me details if I pm you?

yeah sure

 

[The Xmas Furry]

i checked on dvlas website and it does say 3.5t, if you send me a pm I’ll show you the details x

No need, as long as its genuine. What is the unladen weight of it, has it been weighed recently?

 

[Red-1]

If it is a twin axle, the axels will be weighty, not to mention you say it is bigger then normal. I would certainly get it weighed. Many of these types are not even able to carry one horse/rider/tack combination.

I have a modern 3.5 tonne, but had it uprated to 4 as the weight left was not generous.

I take it that the box is a square bigger one rather than a van type conversion? They also tend to be heavier. If it is the type I'm thinking it is, they sit the horses above the rear wheels and therefore have a higher centre of gravity. With the 3.5 suspension this then makes for a shifty ride as they are inherantly less stable.

Maybe a photo of the box would help? No need to show the reg no.

 

[Iloveeverycat]

If it is a twin axle, the axels will be weighty, not to mention you say it is bigger then normal. I would certainly get it weighed. Many of these types are not even able to carry one horse/rider/tack combination.

I have a modern 3.5 tonne, but had it uprated to 4 as the weight left was not generous.

I take it that the box is a square bigger one rather than a van type conversion? They also tend to be heavier. If it is the type I'm thinking it is, they sit the horses above the rear wheels and therefore have a higher centre of gravity. With the 3.5 suspension this then makes for a shifty ride as they are inherantly less stable.

Maybe a photo of the box would help? No need to show the reg no.

will message you

 

[sport horse]

I would not touch it with a barge pole without having it weighed in my own presence!

 

[Iloveeverycat]

If it is a twin axle, the axels will be weighty, not to mention you say it is bigger then normal. I would certainly get it weighed. Many of these types are not even able to carry one horse/rider/tack combination.

I have a modern 3.5 tonne, but had it uprated to 4 as the weight left was not generous.

I take it that the box is a square bigger one rather than a van type conversion? They also tend to be heavier. If it is the type I'm thinking it is, they sit the horses above the rear wheels and therefore have a higher centre of gravity. With the 3.5 suspension this then makes for a shifty ride as they are inherantly less stable.

Maybe a photo of the box would help? No need to show the reg no.

very similar models online have a payload of around 900kg but I’ll get it checked

 

[Merry neddy man]

I've just looked at the advert, you really do need to take it to a weigh bridge, YOU not them, if they show you a weight certificate they could have removed partitions rubber matting spare wheel passengers seat zero diesel etc to show better load carrying figures.

 

[chaps89]

I've just looked at the advert, you really do need to take it to a weigh bridge, YOU not them, if they show you a weight certificate they could have removed partitions rubber matting spare wheel passengers seat zero diesel etc to show better load carrying figures.

This. It looks like a big heavy box.
I bought my box off a friend, sold with a 1350 payload which I knew couldn’t be right but shouldn’t be far off as it was a very basic build. Took it to be weighed myself and it had 1050 payload. Goodness knows how it had so much initially, I’d hazard a guess it was weighed minus partition, spare wheel, on an empty fuel tank etc, but as those are all things I’d carry I made sure when I weighed it, it had those things in to give me an accurate idea of what was left

 

[Melody Grey]

As others have said, do investigate the payload personally- I found an ad recently (with a dealer) for an older, though well constructed 3.5t which had something like a 600kg certified payload......so practically useless unless you’re into Falabellas! Tiny payloads do exist, don’t be caught out!

 

[Northern Hare]

Hi, ref weighbridges, here's a link to a Gov't website with details of a lot of the weighbridges open to the public.

I no longer have my horse, and instead we have a motorhome and we have exactly the same issues with payloads as the equestrian community has with 3.5t horseboxes! So we're well accustomed to taking the motorhome along to the local weighbridge. We've uprated ours to 4,050kg which makes a big difference, but you do need to have the C1 on your driving license to drive it.

https://www.gov.uk/find-weighbridge

 

[Iloveeverycat]

thanks for everyone’s advice , I got my deposit back . Does anyone have any experiences with Warwickshire horse boxes ?

 

[McFluff]

Good luck with your search.
Just pondering, but there is another potential risk to consider if you are looking at a high mileage/older box that is tight for payload. A lot of people don’t seem that aware of payload and just what you need to include, so many may well have been overloaded. Therefore, it may well have spent a good few miles overloaded, which would put extra stress on chassis, suspension and engine.