30yr old pony for sale

Do you really think its fair to try and sell on a pony of that age??? he looks thin and in that condition he should be retired. You are much to big and heavy for him and its very unfair for you to ever ride him.
He should be retired now. Your asking price of £600 is far too high. If you really want him to go to a new home you should find him a nice kind home as a companion. I am so angry that anyone could be so greedy and thoughtless.
This poor old boy deserves better.
 
horses4 said:
hello,
i am the owner of toby and fly. i have read through the comments which have been posted about my advert and i am astonished how soome people think!!
Toby has been a lead rein pony for the last four years and i only walk him around every now and then.
i have a very tiny friend who enjoys riding him, she is the size of a 8 year old but is 15 yrs and has the experience of a 15yr old who takes him hacking and does in fact gallop down a stretch of land on the bridal way.
i no he is small for me personally and that is why i wouldnt even think of riding him like any other horse and am riding 16hh irish draughts in my local pony club, where yes i have earned my D and D+ grades and have worked hard with the pony club for 3 years.
toby gets fed the same as fly (both get more than the younger palamino) of my ponies - 3 times a day with constant hay. he is fed 2 scoops of happy hoof and 2 scoops of soaked alpha nuts.
the palamino in the pictuures are off my yooungster which we bought three years ago now and when we have backed her, she is going up for sale as we feel our grounds need to recover and also we financially cannot keep all three horses. the prices of the horses are what my parents have told me to post them at, as they are soon to be in debt and we are also clearing out everything we own to then sell on. but as they say (the price can always be decreased with negotiation, but never increased) so with this in mind my parents are trying to get the best price possible for the old man. if it was simply up to me, i would rent out another field and let fly and toby graze till their hearts content untill they pass on, but this seriously isnt my decision.
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I really hope you and your parents reconsider selling this poor old boy, its greedy cruel and very unfair on a pony of his age and I would have thought any one who knows or cares for horses would know this.
 
Having read sellers response I feel sorry for her but still more sorry for ponies. Not pony or sellers fault that parents can't manage their finances, if this is genuine reason for sales and prices perhaps u should show ur parents this thread to explain that these horses are not a financial asset to be sold at those unrealistic prices but rather a financial liability that u need to find a kind person to take on and reward the horses for the honest loyal service they have given to u.
 
i no i am too big for him as i have just said and that picture was taken last year and i only ride him now as a have to situation. and i dont see how unwillingly parting with your best friend is greedy!!
 
Cant really say i feel sorry for them as if they cant affordd to keep the old boy they should give him a peacefull end and not try to make money out of him. sorry but people like this makeme so angry. you have a duty to your animals and selling on a poor old boy like that is a disgrace.
 
cai said:
Having read sellers response I feel sorry for her but still more sorry for ponies. Not pony or sellers fault that parents can't manage their finances, if this is genuine reason for sales and prices perhaps u should show ur parents this thread to explain that these horses are not a financial asset to be sold at those unrealistic prices but rather a financial liability that u need to find a kind person to take on and reward the horses for the honest loyal service they have given to u.
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I agree entirely with this. They wont sell for those prices and your parents will have to continue to pay for them. The old boy especially will need extra tlc as he has obviously dropped weight on what you are already feeding him. They would be better to ask a nominal fee, find a decent home and not have to keep them any longer because at those prices they will NOT sell.
 
You really don't understand what's wrong with trying to sell a 30 year old pony?? Jeez you shouldn't be allowed horses at all. You disgust me. I would really like to say what I feel about you but I would get banned from here. Money grabbing c*w.
 
he used to be a pony club games pony and still has the energy and ability to gallop down the stretches when needed to.
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When needed to?! That poor pony shouldnt "need" to gallop anywhere!

he is wasted here because being a small pony he hasnt got a constant rider. he is brilliant to load and will stand all day to be groomed and pulled about by young children.
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He also probably doesnt want OR need a constant rider. He is 30 years old for goodness sake! He needs a lush green field and somebody to love him.

I would also very strongly object to him being "pulled about by young children"
 
horses4 said:
i no i am too big for him as i have just said and that picture was taken last year and i only ride him now as a have to situation. and i dont see how unwillingly parting with your best friend is greedy!!
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I suggest you show your parents this thread. He may be your best friend and as such deserves more than this.A quick peacefull end or a retirement home is what he should have.
It is greedy to try selling him for £600, I have owned several Oaps and this sort of thing makes my blood boil.
 
'unwillingly parting' if some people dont understand, is that i havent got a say in the sale and even if i argue these points i wont win i have tried!!! Toby has been my friend for 10 years now and i would never part with him - i-f i h-a-d a c-h-o-i-c-e !!!!!!!!!
 
This pony has been your loyal friend for the past 10 years. Im sure he has been there for you when you've had really cr@p days, his been there for you to cry your tears in to his mane, his taught you lots, and you'll have had some great times together.

Dont you think its your turn to repay his kindness? Your last act of friendship for him would be to find a loving home FOR FREE.. where you know he will live out the rest of his time with a loving and caring family, where he can eat all the grass he wants!
 
horses4 said:
i no i am too big for him as i have just said and that picture was taken last year and i only ride him now as a have to situation. and i dont see how unwillingly parting with your best friend is greedy!!
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Can you clarify what counts as a 'have to situation'?

I can't think of any situation bar fleeing from a gang of angry snails that warrants a 'have to situation' when it comes to riding an underweight 30 year old pony.....
 
Can we stop jumping on Horses4 - I don't think she has much of a choice in the matter.
I assume your parents are not horsey? It's like trying to sell your mother. If they can't afford to keep the old boy then put him out on loan as a companion or have him PTS. He deserves that much at least.
 
As suggested she could actually show her parents this thread but somehow I don't think she will. Makes me sick to my stomach. That poor, poor pony.

Education is a wonderful thing...
 
It really isn't cricket to try and make a few quid from an aged gentleman who has provided years of loyal service! but I understand you're young, but I think you can see from the amount of response that its not the best option for him

Have you heard of www.projecthorses.co.uk I think your best bet would be to advertise him as a companion on long term loan, then you can keep an eye on him, if you sell him you risk a very uncertain future :( :(

Please take a few moments to think about what your doing, I'm sure if times really are that hard then you could sell something else instead!

xx
 
If this really is not your choice and your parents are not horsey then you may need to make them aware that no one is going to pay that price for him.

All that will happen is that they end up paying out for more feed and hay as the ground worsens and he fails to sell.

I really think you need try and explain that it may be better all round if they offer him up for a nominal fee-£20?? and the promise to keep in touch?
 
blackbess said:
Just saw the advert too, poor old sod. Looks like a really sweet little pony as well. I hope someone can offer him a nice loving home, without the lump of a rider in the photo. The mind boggles as to how she thinks that is acceptable! :rolleyes:
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I do not regret anything I have said. You need to open your eyes and see what you have in front of you! You are far to big and heavy for a 30 year old small pony. He has no topline left and his ribs are clearly evident. He looks well for his age, but come on, lets not play silly beggars! Take my advice and remove the photos of you riding him from your advert, you are leaving yourself wide open for criticism.

It is entirely up to you and your parents what you want to 'ask' for him. Personally, if finances are tight, reduce the price significantly and get him away to his new home.
 
I Have read through all of these comments carefully and i really wish people could see that none of this has been influenced by me.

I am simply going to remove all adverts of him and tell the parents there has been no interest in him and hope that i can get a job and pay for him myself!!
 
horses4 said:
'unwillingly parting' if some people dont understand, is that i havent got a say in the sale and even if i argue these points i wont win i have tried!!! Toby has been my friend for 10 years now and i would never part with him - i-f i h-a-d a c-h-o-i-c-e !!!!!!!!!
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While you sound quite young, you are a member of a pony club (just call me Sherlock ;)) so you should understand that horses are not commodities especially if they are your old faithfuls. Could you get an instructor/DC/other adult to talk to your parents and help you explain this to them? That a 30 year pony shouldn't be for sale and that someone paying £60 let alone £600 is as likely as me getting all six numbers in the lottery on Saturday?

TBH, the kindest, bravest and selfless thing to do in this case is to PTS both. At least they are safe then. JMHO.

Best of luck to you and them.
 
horses4 said:
I Have read through all of these comments carefully and i really wish people could see that none of this has been influenced by me.

I am simply going to remove all adverts of him and tell the parents there has been no interest in him and hope that i can get a job and pay for him myself!!
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In which case I really hope you never ride him again and retire him.
 
of coarse!!!!! i dont ride him currently unless told to anyway, and if he is mine 100% then he could simply live out at a livery yard or rented grounds!!
 
horses4 said:
I am simply going to remove all adverts of him and tell the parents there has been no interest in him and hope that i can get a job and pay for him myself!!
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Thats not such a bad idea, its called being responsible for your pony.
I'm sure your parents will be delighted that you want to find a wee job and help pay for him. I did small jobs to pay for my pony when I was a young girl. Life deals us all some horrible blows from time to time, its hard. Getting a little job will be your way of working it out and helping your parents out too.
 
Couldn't face looking at the ad as I felt my blood starting to boil....:(

I sincerely hope that the poor lad is now going to stay where he belongs, at home, being loved for the last years he has. Not ridden, just out at grass and pootling.

And breathe........
 
horses4 said:
I am simply going to remove all adverts of him and tell the parents there has been no interest in him and hope that i can get a job and pay for him myself!!
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This is all well and good, but if money is a tight as you say it is, there will not be enough to continue feeding him as he should be fed, until you get a job. You sound quite young, as other posters have said, and getting a job within the legal hours that pays enough to keep two ponies will not be easy. Many of us struggle to do just that on a full time wage. But, well done for showing willing.

QUOTE=cbmcts;9453702]While you sound quite young, you are a member of a pony club (just call me Sherlock ;)) so you should understand that horses are not commodities especially if they are your old faithfuls. Could you get an instructor/DC/other adult to talk to your parents and help you explain this to them? That a 30 year pony shouldn't be for sale and that someone paying £60 let alone £600 is as likely as me getting all six numbers in the lottery on Saturday?

TBH, the kindest, bravest and selfless thing to do in this case is to PTS both. At least they are safe then. JMHO.

Best of luck to you and them.[/QUOTE]

I agree completely with the above. I am not heartless, and appreciate it would be devastating for you, but for them, it really could be the best, and safest course of action. It is a sad fact that not everyone who offers "loving, forever, retirement homes" is honest, and more than one old "friend" has ended up in the wrong hands when either given away, or sold at very cheap prices. Without wanting to upset you unecessarily, the truth is, they can then be put into sales whereby the person who took them off your hands gets to make a quick buck, or they cart them straight off to the meat man, and may make considerably more than the ponies were sold for in the first place. ( I don't know what the going price is at the moment, but it's certainly more than £20 ). You really do need some adult, knowledgeable help with this.

Where are they kept at the moment?
 
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