3rd body found...
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AmyMay
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Tragic and totally outside anything I can understand.
CracklinRosie
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I'm with you on that one Amymay, I can't understand either.
Kenzo
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This case has really effected me, I know tragic things happen all the time, people getting murdered etc etc but this has really got to me, I just cant stop thinking about it and how terrible the whole thing is, all I hope is that they did not suffer too much, were put through too much distress etc before they were shot, I cant imagine what there families must be going through right now, so very sad.
jules89
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agree kenzo. im addicted to the news because i want to know the truth so i can lay this to rest. i actually deamt about this last night..
henryhorn
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It looks as if in his deranged way he decided to take everything they loved with them, hence the dogs/horses etc being shot.
Perhaps he killed his daughter first when she was sleeping, then his wife then all the animals and returned to kill himself next to his wife's body.
You can only shudder at anyone who's state of mind would allow them to do all that.
My thoughts today are with their relatives, parents/friends etc, how terrible it must be for them to have to imagine what their loved ones faced in their final moments.
He had to be mentally ill, so perhaps we can pity him..
Perhaps he killed his daughter first when she was sleeping, then his wife then all the animals and returned to kill himself next to his wife's body.
You can only shudder at anyone who's state of mind would allow them to do all that.
My thoughts today are with their relatives, parents/friends etc, how terrible it must be for them to have to imagine what their loved ones faced in their final moments.
He had to be mentally ill, so perhaps we can pity him..
Weezy
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Well I don't pity him one bit, sick bastard - what gave him the right to think that because he was a shite businessman who had made himself and his family bankrupt he could destroy 2 lives
I just hope and pray that the wife and daughter were killed swiftly, but I think I am right in saying that the wife did not die outright?
This is all very close to home to me right now, but at least he did the right thing and killed himself too.
This is all very close to home to me right now, but at least he did the right thing and killed himself too.
Skhosu
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Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
*hic*
village idiot :D
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Paddywhack
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At the moment they are treated it as a murder and i heard something about a hitman.Its all very sad and my thoughts goes out to the family,there must be so much that they are not telling us about this case and the more we speculate the angrier we will get.So just let us sit back and wait for the truth to come out
The Virgin Dubble
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Well I don't pity him one bit, sick bastard - what gave him the right to think that because he was a shite businessman who had made himself and his family bankrupt he could destroy 2 lives
I just hope and pray that the wife and daughter were killed swiftly, but I think I am right in saying that the wife did not die outright?
This is all very close to home to me right now, but at least he did the right thing and killed himself too.
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I agree 100%. I have absolutely NO sympathy for him whatsoever.
There are thousands of people who have lost everything due to financial problems, but they don't slaughter and destroy everything in their path.
Well I don't pity him one bit, sick bastard - what gave him the right to think that because he was a shite businessman who had made himself and his family bankrupt he could destroy 2 lives
This is all very close to home to me right now, but at least he did the right thing and killed himself too.
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I agree 100%. I have absolutely NO sympathy for him whatsoever.
There are thousands of people who have lost everything due to financial problems, but they don't slaughter and destroy everything in their path.
Madam_max
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QR- I don't think it's right to jump to conclusions when nobody know what actually happened. I am sure the press are making him out to be a complete monster etc etc. I mean so what he was stripping assets from his business to set up another, that happens everyday, but doesn't make people evil
He must have done something right at some point as he did have a successful company. I just find it all very sad, especially for the daughter
The Virgin Dubble
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but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
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but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
[/ QUOTE ]I would imagine that they have to be 100% certain as to whether he killed himself, or was murdered.
JM07
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Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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The male died from gunshot too...just obviously takes longer when he's committed suicide through his mouth...hard to find all the relevent bits i should think...
Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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The male died from gunshot too...just obviously takes longer when he's committed suicide through his mouth...hard to find all the relevent bits i should think...
Tinkerbee
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This case has really effected me, I know tragic things happen all the time, people getting murdered etc etc but this has really got to me, I just cant stop thinking about it and how terrible the whole thing is, all I hope is that they did not suffer too much, were put through too much distress etc before they were shot, I cant imagine what there families must be going through right now, so very sad.
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Ditto. Bizarre stories happen all the time but this one has really upset and confused me and reading an article in the paper I had tears in my eyes
and I don't understand why it has affected me so much?
Maybe it's because she had horses or I don't know and she looks a bit like one of my old friends/similair house/family life so that may be it
It is just tragic and my heart goes out to their family and friends
This case has really effected me, I know tragic things happen all the time, people getting murdered etc etc but this has really got to me, I just cant stop thinking about it and how terrible the whole thing is, all I hope is that they did not suffer too much, were put through too much distress etc before they were shot, I cant imagine what there families must be going through right now, so very sad.
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Ditto. Bizarre stories happen all the time but this one has really upset and confused me and reading an article in the paper I had tears in my eyes
It is just tragic and my heart goes out to their family and friends
GinaB
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Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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The male died from gunshot too...just obviously takes longer when he's committed suicide through his mouth...hard to find all the relevent bits i should think...
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Also, with the intensity of the fire within the house, much of the evidence and bodies will be totally destroyed.
A very sad state of affairs
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Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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The male died from gunshot too...just obviously takes longer when he's committed suicide through his mouth...hard to find all the relevent bits i should think...
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Also, with the intensity of the fire within the house, much of the evidence and bodies will be totally destroyed.
A very sad state of affairs
brighteyes
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And it wasn't just two lives - animals or no, theirs were taken as well. Sick, sick, sick.
Beanyowner
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Well I don't pity him one bit, sick bastard - what gave him the right to think that because he was a shite businessman who had made himself and his family bankrupt he could destroy 2 lives
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Nothing has actually been said by the media concerning that tho has it? As far as I was aware all that has been confirmed is the body of Mrs Foster, 2 other bodies and the animals bodies. For all we know the financial affairs of the family may not have anything to do with it as that was all wound up in 2007...although very unlikely that its not to do with money.
I do feel very sorry for the daughter as families do not tend to share their financial worries with the children of the family.
Also...the poor animals...very sad indeed.
Well I don't pity him one bit, sick bastard - what gave him the right to think that because he was a shite businessman who had made himself and his family bankrupt he could destroy 2 lives
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Nothing has actually been said by the media concerning that tho has it? As far as I was aware all that has been confirmed is the body of Mrs Foster, 2 other bodies and the animals bodies. For all we know the financial affairs of the family may not have anything to do with it as that was all wound up in 2007...although very unlikely that its not to do with money.
I do feel very sorry for the daughter as families do not tend to share their financial worries with the children of the family.
Also...the poor animals...very sad indeed.
jules08
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also think its heartbreaking and on the pic of them the night befor they died they all look perfectly happy, if he did do it some thing was very wrong god it must have taken some planning to do that alone, i am still wondering wether someone else was responsible? seems like a difficult task for one person. personally i feel devestated for all those involved and really hope that the real version of events can come out
Puppy
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Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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I think if the wife was involved then she would have taken her own life - by an overdose/hanging, not asked her husband to shoot her, and would not allow her daughter and animals to be taken too. I very much doubt that she is involved
Her and the daughter (and animals of course) are undoubtedly the most innocent of victims imaginable to me
The whole thing is just heartbreaking
Think the wife died of a gunshot wound to the head. I do wonder if both the wife and husband were involved, but also why they cant determine the mode of death for the male?
Thing that makes it sad for me is that they look like an ordinary horsey family from the pictures shown
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I think if the wife was involved then she would have taken her own life - by an overdose/hanging, not asked her husband to shoot her, and would not allow her daughter and animals to be taken too. I very much doubt that she is involved
The whole thing is just heartbreaking
carys220
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I still think that someone else killed them, grudge or something.....surely he would've just let the animals free, they could start a new life.....I can't understand any reason he would have to kill them..... or TBH his wife and child.....most business men who kill themselves in this kind of situation do it alone to 'help' their families.....if he really did do it all himself he must've had severe mental problems and surely someone would've noticed......
ETA BBC says that the body of an 'unidentified man' has also been found......hitman??
ETA BBC says that the body of an 'unidentified man' has also been found......hitman??
mickey
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QR: I think it is still very much open with regard to whether he commited murders or whether there is some other explanation.
IF he did this, I am not saying I can understand or forgive, but I do think he must have been sick and thus we should not necessarily judge him as we would one of us.
BTW has anyone considered that the wife might have done this?????????
IF he did this, I am not saying I can understand or forgive, but I do think he must have been sick and thus we should not necessarily judge him as we would one of us.
BTW has anyone considered that the wife might have done this?????????
kerilli
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No, because that is even more inconceivable to me.
pinktiger
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this is just too horrific for words,,, the poor daughter who wouldnt have had any idea at all of financial problems prob and was just doing what teenagers do,had rest of her life ahead, and those poor animals. I cannot believe that a father could possibly do this to his family. my heart goes out to the family and friends involved at this awful time.
ForeverBroke_
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I just feel for the poor horses! What a twisted plot, with the horse box and everything?! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
The Virgin Dubble
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BTW has anyone considered that the wife might have done this?????????
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I believe the wife received a gunshot wound to the back of the head, so highly unlikely.
BTW has anyone considered that the wife might have done this?????????
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I believe the wife received a gunshot wound to the back of the head, so highly unlikely.
katherinef
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I've been a bit obsessed with this one myself, feel so sorry for the daughter and hope she was dead before seeing her life destroyed around her, her horses shot and her mother murdered.
I don't feel it was a hitman as too much of a trail would have been left, there were spent bullet cartridges littering the courtyard no professional would leave these lying around, it leaves an evidential trail
A professional might shoot a dog to keep it quiet but little point shooting horses
Also the house had been boarded up and the windows locked from the inside which suggests the person who did that died in the house
Whatever happened though was sudden - there was no chance for anyone either the wife or daughter to make a 999 call using a mobile or landline - or at least we don't know if any attempt was made to do so.
It is rather chilling to see that photo of them at the barbecue and then know what transpired a few hours later. Perhaps something happened when they returned home -maybe the mother was threatening to leave or maybe the father had his plans in place by that point?
It seems odd the daughter was talking on the internet at 1pm and all apparently seemed well - what happened in those two hours?
All very chilling and very sad
I don't feel it was a hitman as too much of a trail would have been left, there were spent bullet cartridges littering the courtyard no professional would leave these lying around, it leaves an evidential trail
A professional might shoot a dog to keep it quiet but little point shooting horses
Also the house had been boarded up and the windows locked from the inside which suggests the person who did that died in the house
Whatever happened though was sudden - there was no chance for anyone either the wife or daughter to make a 999 call using a mobile or landline - or at least we don't know if any attempt was made to do so.
It is rather chilling to see that photo of them at the barbecue and then know what transpired a few hours later. Perhaps something happened when they returned home -maybe the mother was threatening to leave or maybe the father had his plans in place by that point?
It seems odd the daughter was talking on the internet at 1pm and all apparently seemed well - what happened in those two hours?
All very chilling and very sad
The Virgin Dubble
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I still think that someone else killed them, grudge or something.....surely he would've just let the animals free, they could start a new life.....I can't understand any reason he would have to kill them..... or TBH his wife and child.....most business men who kill themselves in this kind of situation do it alone to 'help' their families.....if he really did do it all himself he must've had severe mental problems and surely someone would've noticed......
ETA BBC says that the body of an 'unidentified man' has also been found......hitman??
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A hitman would have no reason to kill the animals, or burn the family vehicles.
In fact, a hitman would want to get in, get the job done, and get out, in the minimum of time, so as to avoid detection.
I still think that someone else killed them, grudge or something.....surely he would've just let the animals free, they could start a new life.....I can't understand any reason he would have to kill them..... or TBH his wife and child.....most business men who kill themselves in this kind of situation do it alone to 'help' their families.....if he really did do it all himself he must've had severe mental problems and surely someone would've noticed......
ETA BBC says that the body of an 'unidentified man' has also been found......hitman??
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A hitman would have no reason to kill the animals, or burn the family vehicles.
In fact, a hitman would want to get in, get the job done, and get out, in the minimum of time, so as to avoid detection.
Natch
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Another person who has been horribly affected by this tragedy of strangers.
I just think that if he did it he must have been terribly mentally unwell to put it mildly. What on earth drives someone to destroy his life and those of the people and animals who shared it is a mystery to me, but I cannot comprehend that somebody of sound mind could do that.
I do pity the man. I pity the wife and daughter and animals too, but I don't see any point in being angry at him. People who commit suicide are rarely/never in a rational frame of mind. Massive shame that nobody spotted and got him help for whatever turmoil that was going on inside him.
Another person who has been horribly affected by this tragedy of strangers.
I just think that if he did it he must have been terribly mentally unwell to put it mildly. What on earth drives someone to destroy his life and those of the people and animals who shared it is a mystery to me, but I cannot comprehend that somebody of sound mind could do that.
I do pity the man. I pity the wife and daughter and animals too, but I don't see any point in being angry at him. People who commit suicide are rarely/never in a rational frame of mind. Massive shame that nobody spotted and got him help for whatever turmoil that was going on inside him.
mickey
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I just think that if he did it he must have been terribly mentally unwell to put it mildly. What on earth drives someone to destroy his life and those of the people and animals who shared it is a mystery to me, but I cannot comprehend that somebody of sound mind could do that.
I do pity the man. I pity the wife and daughter and animals too, but I don't see any point in being angry at him. People who commit suicide are rarely/never in a rational frame of mind. Massive shame that nobody spotted and got him help for whatever turmoil that was going on inside him.
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I agree. I am not meaning to undermine this horrific tragedy and loss of life. But I do think that to be angry or hate this man is not fruitful. He must have been very very sick if he did this and that is something that none of us can truly understand.
I just think that if he did it he must have been terribly mentally unwell to put it mildly. What on earth drives someone to destroy his life and those of the people and animals who shared it is a mystery to me, but I cannot comprehend that somebody of sound mind could do that.
I do pity the man. I pity the wife and daughter and animals too, but I don't see any point in being angry at him. People who commit suicide are rarely/never in a rational frame of mind. Massive shame that nobody spotted and got him help for whatever turmoil that was going on inside him.
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I agree. I am not meaning to undermine this horrific tragedy and loss of life. But I do think that to be angry or hate this man is not fruitful. He must have been very very sick if he did this and that is something that none of us can truly understand.