5 stage Vetting some questions............

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Have been chatting on the yard this morning and there seem to be a few difference of opinions so thought I would ask on here...

Firstly are bloods done as a routine, or does the purchaser have to ask for them to be done?

Secondly, if a horse fails a five stage does the owner have to tell any future possible buyers or is it up to them to ask? someone had heard that horses can be re-vetted........

Just a little confussed about this so thanks in advance
 
All three vettings I have had with my three horses took blood as a matter of course.

With regards to telling future buyers I would imagine it would be buyer beware- it's up to them if they vet or not and if they did then it would be up to them to decide based on the results of that vetting whether to buy. I believe some vets are more cautious than others as to what passes and it depends on what the horse is being vetted for, e.g a horse might pass as a happy hacker but not to be a grand prix dressage horse.

I'm certain they can be re-vetted, after all it could be something small that caused them to fail like a bruise or similar and once this is gone they could be totally fit so could then pass a vetting.
 
...but if prospective purchasers ask you direct questions that you know about because of the failed vetting, you have to answer honestly or you could be in big trouble later!
 
Yes I have definitely heard of horse failing vettings and owners readvertising and actually denying this fact
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And of course a horse may be failed by one vet but passed by another or have something picked up in a 5 stage e.g. sarcoids that some buyers would not be willing to take on but another would.
 
I am fairly sure blood is taken as a matter of course but stored and only tested if you request it at a later date eg if quiet/sound horse goes nuts/lame when you get it home! I had a horse fail the vet on a technical unsoundness, i had my vet out the next day who could find nothing wrong and another vet passed him the next day (i did tell the buyers what happened)
 
I had to pay extra for bloods to be taken. The vet gives you a tube full of blood to take home and put in fridge and he has the second one to keep himself. My understanding of it is that if in that first week of ownership if the horse plays up really bad you can call the vet and arrange for the blood in his tube to be tested. Its tested for drugs that would have been given by the vendor to the horse to make the horse quiet during the vetting, ie to hide problems. Drugs such as pain killers, etc. Not sure what you'd do with your tube after that happens though.
 
the bloods should be taken as a routine thing in vettings as it is one of the requirements of the certificate to say they passed.
Yes horses can be revetted, often if a vet fails a horse, but the owner is really interested but wants to be safe they will get a different vet to vet the horse to see if it passes, and if it fails it should set off warning bells!

The owner has to be honest about any previous ailments, or current ailments, even if flagged up in a different persons vetting, IF ASKED! if not asked they are not required to say, although they could be considered liable for a false advertising/sale if the horse is not what it is sold as etc. If asked directly about if the horse has any previous issues or current though they have to answer honestly or are in serious sh*t
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hope this helps
 
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