50 pups recovered

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DON'T FINANCIALLY SUPPORT PUPPY FARMS!
This includes buying pups from car boots, pups brought to you from a shed, and many pet shops. You're not saving them, you're just providing a space for the next lot to be born and putting money into the pockets of scumbags - let the authorities do the saving.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1010/breaking29.html

http://www.u.tv/News/50-pups-found-in-Dublin-cruelty-probe/3d36cbf8-1486-4653-8343-cce3a1445898

http://www.newstalk.ie/2012/news/up-to-50-puppies-found-after-dublin-car-search/
 
Heartbreaking :(

that goes for the numpties that like to buy designer cross breeds... the vast majority are being bred purely for the money please don't invest yours with them.

If your looking at a pedigree and it goes against the breed standard for something as basic as colour, parti poodles, white boxers, blue weimaraners the list goes on ask yourself why they are breeding them its not for the good of the breed, so PLEASE DON'T buy them :(
 
In my book if you buy these sorts of pups you are as guilty as the puppy farmers and BYBs.

It dosnt matter how often we try to put the message out there it wont be too long before someone appears on here with a pup from dubious circumstances and a lot of people will be cooing over it because its a cute puppy.
 
Down this way eight GSDxboxer puppies past their sell by date at four months were booked into be PTS this week, fortunately a local FB campaign got them saved.No doubt they were bred as a so called healthier cross breed too.:mad:
 
I suspect wire were crossed and the pups in ireland were actually bred there and destined for the Uk rather than as reported.
Anyone supporting this trade should be ashamed of themselves but instead they often become smug and play the "I'm not a snob it doesn't matter that my dog isn't pure bred/registered" card. I agree - not a snob but an idiot!
 
As I understand it, yes, they were bred in Ireland to be shipped to the UK for sale.

We wouldn't buy counterfeit goods or dodgy medication (one would hope) so don't fund puppy farmers either, IMO! Who knows where and on what all that profit goes :(
 
It's on the News here just now, two men have been arrested.

OMG lookit the lickle puppies! ♥

They look to be JRTs, spaniels and black labs, and are in reasonable health, just some minor things wrong with a few of them
 
yes as CC says the pups may not be too bad now problems will show as time goes on.

Also its the breeding bitches that have the worst time, shut in crates having litter after litter and recieving no medical attention when its needed, no affection and no interaction with other dogs
 
they look to be some of the most popular crossbreeds at the mo;

puggles

labradoodles

juggles

cockerpoos

shi-poo

amongst others

when will people learn that when they buy these they are not rescueing one but condeming many?

its so sad
 
Good work, Im sure its only a drop in the ocean and hopefully they can find out where they came from and seize the breeding bitches and put these lowlifescum out of business.

Poor little pups hopefully they can be found good homes.


Jools I couldnt agree more.
 
And another 50 recovered today (Sat). But I doubt these large quantities of pups are going to be sold from backs of cars. We ought to ask where do these big puppy dealers in England like 'pupsrus' 'the london dog shop' 'ivyleafkennels' etc that always have puppies for sale, and many breeds/xbreeds get their pups? If there were no outlets for big quantities of pups Im sure the puppy farmers wouldnt make big profits and close down.
Ive nothing against the designer crosses tho- most breeds originate from crosses of other breeds, and most for specific jobs of work. If people want to design? the perfect pet, Im not agaist that.
 
Most of these will be sold from seemingly private homes - usually under the guise of "they are my mum's, brother's, uncle Tom Cobbly's puppies" to get around the mother not being around.
The big licensed puppy stores have to provide records and have proof of origin so won't be trading in these puppies. They buy from licensed puppy farms instead.
I have just refused to microchip a puppy - bought last week from a house in the midlands where no parents were available to see. I told them to take it away until they had owned it a month as I don't allow dogs from puppy farms or pounds on the premises until "out" for four weeks. Owners were a bit put out but they can go and pay an extra £15 to the vet for chipping. They will need to get well in with the vet having bought a ShihTzu x Maltese.
 
I wonder what they are going to do with these puppies now? It's alot to rehome. If people are correct on here and say that they are all most likely to have health problems when they're older would it be best to put them all down now?
 
I know, the Irish rescues are full up and sending dogs to the UK as it is :(
Although if it's just superficial things then the pups will be easier to rehome than if they were unsocialised adults like their parents :(

Stormox, will agree to disagree, but aren't there 'perfect pets' among the gazillions of breeds around already, without trying to 'design' more? If it was intelligent design, maybe, but I cannot see the sense in breeding a Lapdog prone to heart and breathing issues like a pug to a dog bred to keep it's nose down and run on the hunting field all day, like a Beagle.
 
I certainly dont agree with breeding ANY dog at all unless there is a really good reason. But surely a small 'designer breed' would have a small litter, and theyd be easier for pet homes to manage (and therefore keep permanently) than the zillions of GSDs (for example) that you see on the dog adverts?
The licensed puppy farms in Ireland have got new legislation as of 1 Jan 2012- a fee is paid to the council of 400eu for up to 200 breeding bitches, after that its 1600eu for every extra 100 breeding bitches. So even the licenced puppy farmers can still have an awful lot (too many, in my opinion) of pups a year.
 
Why are people producing designer breeds? Simple because they find idiots to buy them without having to do any of the health testing & selection required to breed decent purebred dogs. They don't even have the breed rescues to fall back on (& breed rescues actually deal with more dogs annually than the big rescues combined.) which mop up after the poor purebred producers.
A reputable breeder vets the purchasers and takes back any dog they have produced and if one does turn up in rescue they spring or sponsor it.
The small designer breeds have litters as large as the mother's breed. Ask yourself why the bitch isn't being used to produce the next generation of her own breed. They are bred for a quick profit.
 
Oh Stormox, I would LOVE for there to be less dogs bred altogether, especially GSDs. The registration numbers are well down, show entries are well down, but sadly if you look on Dumbtree and Bumdeal, there are still plenty of unregistered litters and poor examples of the breed out there.
And then people complain that their dogs hips are bad and their temperaments are poor...better education of puppy buyers required definitely and people not buying puppies on the strength that they are cute - all puppies are cute.

However small designer/lapdog breeds are perfect fodder for puppy farmers BECAUSE they are easy to manage as broods and easy to whelp. You wouldn't see sheds full of, for example, GSDs these days because the shed and it's stewards would get eaten by large, bored bitches and their large, bored puppies and the litters are large and harder to look after.
The easier the dog is to whelp and rear, the more pups produced and the easier they are to sell out the back door.
 
I certainly dont believe in breeding, or breeding from, ANY dog (pedigree, designer or heinz57) with conformation or health defects. And that includes the characteristics of some pedigree breeds like undershot, bracyphalic, over-wrinkled skin etc.
But at the end of the day people seem to want these small breeds and crossbreeds, and they seem to get loving permanent homes. It is pedigree staffies (wheres staffie rescue??) GSD X, Lab X, border collies and ugly big mongrel types that fill our dogs homes.
It is not always 'idiots' who buy these small dogs- a lot of them are lovely people (some in the older age bracket) who want a loving easy to manage pet.
 
Of course lots of lovely people buy the smaller dogs, but unfortunately it is these lovely people who are then left with large bills/heartache if the dogs develop problems. The 'idiots' either hand them in to rescue or don't bother treating them if things go wrong.
It may just be my area but in my local free ads this week there were no ads for GSD (and this is the norm, thank heavens there seem to be few people breeding them round here), but lots of crosses, maltese x westiepoo, cockerpoo, and one listing 3 different litters, cockerpoo, jr x pug, and chi x pug! I only hope in the last case the pug was the dam, and no one has any daft ideas of breeding from these pups.:eek:

As to your question re staffie rescue, they are working their socks off but are totally overwhelmed I imagine. :(
 
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