minesadouble
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Removed from Howard Johnson and sent to Paul Nicholls. Good!!
6 of Graham Wylie's top horses
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Merry Crisis
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I dont think that it will be long before the entire yard is removed. Having said that, I am not sure of GW innocence in the matter either.
EAST KENT
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Think I would have thought much more of him if he`d stayed loyal in adversity. He and Andrea are very "hands on" owners, who knows,winning may have been all consuming.
Miss L Toe
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No one knows. but there is no doubt it is just plain stupid to try to swing things in your favour by illegal means [allegedly]
dingle12
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Whats happened?
Merry Crisis
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It will be interesting to see how GW's horses do when he doesnt own the trainer.
Whoopit
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Ditto!!
Miss L Toe
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If anyone sends horses to Paul Nicholls they are bound to improve.
Miss L Toe
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The trainer was hauled up in front of the BHA for running a horse which had had a neurectomy also steroids in some others, I think he pleaded not guilty, but it seems he will have a rough time ahead.
Elf On A Shelf
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Looking at things I can't see how JHJ can avoid having his licence to train revoked. IMO the Wylie's have done the sensible thing and removed their horses in time for them to start a full seasons training with another trainer.
Merry Crisis
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I agree in a way MrsD, but PN's yard is very big and I think a lot of horses are on the back boiler. He has VERY good owners, I think GW will have to compete with them. Sometimes its better to be the only one in a small sea, rather than one of many in an ocean!
Dobiegirl
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I dont think Graham Wylie is expecting a happy outcome for Howard Johnson either wise he would have moved them some where local where they could soon be moved back.
I dont think PN is going to be overawed either by GW horses which are not of the same calibre as he has at his yard.
Totally different tack but what about Kauto Stone who is Kauto Stars half brother for the season ahead, how exciting that promises to be. Has had a very similar prep as Long Run and could be even better.
I dont think PN is going to be overawed either by GW horses which are not of the same calibre as he has at his yard.
Totally different tack but what about Kauto Stone who is Kauto Stars half brother for the season ahead, how exciting that promises to be. Has had a very similar prep as Long Run and could be even better.
Miss L Toe
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Historically, the half brothers of good horses cost a lot of money which then takes a long time to make back, and with so many difficulties in training, I would not be taking short odds on the Gold Cup in 2015, nevertheless, very difficult not to have high hopes.
Little Squirrel
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I agree, I used to ride out Kauto Relko and didn't think much of him, either to look at or to ride, he didin't have the best brain either. There was so much hype surrounding him when he arrived but he was just dissapointing.
Hopefully Kauto Stone will follow in his more famous siblings hoofprints, but horses are funny things.
Dobiegirl
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Kauto Stone already has very good winning form in France and has won more or less the same races as Long Run.
I remember Denmans half brother Silverlea or something similar who couldnt walk in Denmans shadow.
I remember Denmans half brother Silverlea or something similar who couldnt walk in Denmans shadow.
Finns Mum
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From the article I read it sounded more that GW had moved them because the outcome of the hearing could mean HJ would not be able to train, not that he is moving them because of what his trainer is accused of doing 
Merry Crisis
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From the article I read it sounded more that GW had moved them because the outcome of the hearing could mean HJ would not be able to train, not that he is moving them because of what his trainer is accused of doing
I am sure that is the case. I dont think that he is moving them on moral grounds, as I am sure he was well aware of what was going on.
snaptie
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Indeed, the Wylie's would have been well aware of the op on poor Striking Article as they obviously have to cover the costs incurred. Bit of unpleasant business from both owners and trainer alike.
Caledonia
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JHJ should be struck off for life for running a de-nerved horse. The jockeys that rode him after the op are just lucky that the leg didn't go where they'd have been badly hurt or killed. Thankfully for Peter Buchanan, the leg went on the flat between fences.
The only reason he was even caught, is because it happened at Musselburgh, where they routinely take the limbs from dead horses who have suffered catastrophic injuries for research.
Ignorant trainer didn't even know that.
At least some of his wrongdoings have come to light.
The only reason he was even caught, is because it happened at Musselburgh, where they routinely take the limbs from dead horses who have suffered catastrophic injuries for research.
Ignorant trainer didn't even know that.
At least some of his wrongdoings have come to light.
Dobiegirl
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Its a crying shame every racecourse in the country dosnt do this, whose to say he hasnt done it before and never been caught.
Also I dont think it would be unreasonable for all his horses to be tested to see if indeed they had had the same op.
I for one would ban him for life if found guilty.