7 year old girl killed

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What a dreadful accident - highly traumatising for all concerned and I feel sorry for every one of them who are left living with this horror. Poor little Lizzie to have her life cut short.
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Again another tragedy. I'm a little confused as the driver had not been charged with drink/drug abuse but in other reports say different. The other part was the child was deemed to be ok, until she fell ill later. Now if that was the case the driver cannot be charged with the above offence unless she was at the scene which, appears she was not. Either way I cannot see how you can charge somebody with her death if the vehicle was illegal however, I can see how you can charge the parents with negligence, either way very sad for the family but also for the driver who if presumed innocent will be left with this burden because of the stupid actions of the parents, I'll be reserving my pity for now.
 
A friend of ours was run over by a neighbour's lorry (deliberately I might add) and he appeared fine when first admitted to hospital, but suddenly deteriorated as his internal bleeding affected him, so they may not have realised how seriously injured the child was. He died soon after. (the neighbour's house was struck by a massive bolt of lightning the following weekend and burned to the ground, we are sure it was Colin.....
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Again another tragedy. I'm a little confused as the driver had not been charged with drink/drug abuse but in other reports say different. The other part was the child was deemed to be ok, until she fell ill later. Now if that was the case the driver cannot be charged with the above offence unless she was at the scene which, appears she was not. Either way I cannot see how you can charge somebody with her death if the vehicle was illegal however, I can see how you can charge the parents with negligence, either way very sad for the family but also for the driver who if presumed innocent will be left with this burden because of the stupid actions of the parents, I'll be reserving my pity for now.

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To clarify the early press reports that said the driver had been arrested on suspicion of drink/driving offences. It is ACPO policy that any driver who has been involved in a fatal accident will be arrested in order to preserve any available evidence - obviously the press will draw certain conclusions from this and conclude that the driver was in fact drunk or under the influence of drugs, when this may not be the case.
If it could be proved that the RR driver had committed offences there are a number of charging options and the later death of the child could be taken into account, particularly if alcohol was a factor, even factoring in the illegal use of a vehicle in the dark.

However it appears that the car driver had not committed any offences and is just an unfortunate victim of circumstances.
 
I'm pleased the RR driver is innocent however, I'm sure this is little consolation to her at the moment. Very sad all the same, you can almost see how this all came about however I think the parents have been given a life long sentence already
 
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A friend of ours was run over by a neighbour's lorry (deliberately I might add) and he appeared fine when first admitted to hospital, but suddenly deteriorated as his internal bleeding affected him, so they may not have realised how seriously injured the child was. He died soon after. (the neighbour's house was struck by a massive bolt of lightning the following weekend and burned to the ground, we are sure it was Colin.....
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OMG HH remind me not to pee off any of your friends!!!
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perhaps they don't need anything further said or done, it was obvious they adored their daughter, and made a stupid and devastatingly consequential error.


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Well, thats may be true for some, but to be honest, lots of people do not take responsibility for their actions. They may well STILL think they did nothing wrong to have this child on the road and blame the car driver. It can be a natural grief reaction to blame someone else when deep down on a subconscious level you know its you. Some families would sit blameing themselves, but others would sit blameing the car driver. They wouldn't have had her on the road in the first place if they thought it wrong or dangerous so may well not have changed their attitude - just be angry they met driver A speeding and driving dangerously (in their own minds). I agree they will always be devestated as anyone does that loses anyone they love for whatever reason, but being devestated and having personal grief does not absolve you from responsibility of harming others through a criminal act just because you are sorry you did it after the event.
 
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they have paid the ultimate price

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no, sorry I have slept on this, but I still maintain, as I did over The Other Business - THEY have not paid the ultimate price at all. The CHILD has paid the ulitmate price.
 
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ive read this whole post from start to finish and whilst i agree with the fact the parents were negligent, surely they have paid the ultimate price without being chastised on public forums?
the mc canns also paid the price as did the family that went trick or treating in the dark on their pony.

my point being that people do make mistakes, sometimes fatal ones and the death of a loved one - knowing it was your fault somehow - must be the most painful thing in the world.
im sure all parents involved will think about those days for the rest of their lives.

as for the some people dont deserve children comment - how dare you????? do you know how much the child meant to her family?? they made a tragic mistake but they certainly dont deserve comments like that.

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What do you mean how dare you,who do you think you are my mother!??
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Im sure the parents love their children very much im not disputing that.You call the death of this little girl a mistake well im sorry but i see it as a lot more than that.These parents have cut her life short by their sheer stupidity. When we have children we are supposed to protect them not put their lives in danger, as for the comment i made, some people dont deserve children i stand by what i said and the poor lady that hit her has got to live with it for the rest of her life to.This is a childs life we are talking about not a bloody dog that would be a mistake in my eyes, we as parents have to use our common sense sadly there are a few that lack in it.
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7 year old on a qaud bike in the dark illegally, parents responcability, nothing else to say is there, the child has paid the ultimate price, what an unnessary waste.
 
I feel very sorry for the driver of the other vehicle.
I cant quite understand the parents thinking that it was ok to put their 7 year old on 40mph quad bike, in the dark, on a public road.

Very sad
 
As taken from the BBC News Page

Quad bike death probe continues

Elizabeth Cooke was taken to hospital where she died
Police have said they are examining the "culpability of all parties" involved after a seven-year-old girl died following a collision on her quad bike.
Elizabeth Cooke and her brother Jack, 10, were riding quad bikes behind their father Gary's Range Rover near the family home in Blackmore, Essex.

Elizabeth died in hospital from internal injuries following the collision on Boxing Day.

A 28-year-old woman, from the Brentwood area has been arrested over the crash.

Police said Elizabeth's quad bike was in collision with a Range Rover, driven by a 28-year-old woman from the Brentwood area, shortly after 1800 GMT.

The crash occurred in Fingrith Hall Lane, just outside the village of Blackmore.

An Essex Police spokeswoman said officers were continuing to investigate the accident and added: "We are making further inquiries and examining the culpability of all involved parties."

The 28-year-old woman, who has not been named, could be charged with careless driving.

A pathologist is carrying a post-mortem examination to establish how Elizabeth died.

Police said she had been taken home, about half a mile from the crash scene, after the accident.

Paramedics went to the home after her family called the emergency services to say she was ill.
 
Just seen a news report on the TV, and they seem to still be pointing all the blame at the lady in the RR, having seen the road in the daylight I would never have considered going along the road at night in anything other than a car. And as for the question over whether they were wearing helmets, if they weren't then why, she was rider and obviously they would never have considered her going out without a hat, but then they probably wouldn't have let her out on her pony at night following behind a car either.
 
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Just seen a news report on the TV, and they seem to still be pointing all the blame at the lady in the RR, .

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Well if you follow the letter of the Highway Code, you should always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear, so if the little girl was in her path, even on a poorly lit illegal vehicle it could be argued that the RR driver should have avoided her. So it is quite correct that the Police should still be investigating a potential offence of careless driving.

To balance that, think how far you can see on your dipped beam headlights, not very - in fact you probably rely on other clues to tell you that it is safe to continue such as other lighting, other vehicles and their speed and position. If we all drove to a speed limited by the extent of dipped beams the whole country would slow down overnight.

I wouldn't be drawing any conclusions form the press reports at this stage, they are just picking out bits of the police statements and other information, and probably making a bit up, to sell newspapers.
 
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you should always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear

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After a car coming the other way passes, eyes have to adjust, and of course, something may move into your path of travel.
 
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you should always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear

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After a car coming the other way passes, eyes have to adjust, and of course, something may move into your path of travel.

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I appreciate that, and those are no doubt some of the considerations that will be taken into account by the investigators. However the general principle still applies.
 
Im just shocked at the comments made by the father! He says there is no point regretting it and it could just as easily have happended if she had been on her pony!

The sheer arrogance of this man! He clearly considers he has no part in this accident!
 
I haven't read it but it sounds like he said it, perhaps, so that no-one would lay blame to the lady who was driving the RR?

Anyone read whether the little girl was on the correct side of the road at the time of the incident? And was the woman in the RR on her side?
 
Have read on other forums that driver had just passed the dads rangerover so would have had to have slowed down to pass no doubt. It was a very narrow road. In that case I would imagine she would have had to have been on the correct side of the road.
The kids had a quad each so I imagine they may have been riding side by side, and the girl had a glancing blow. Anything at speed would have killed her outright, or at least made her injuries apparently obvious.
I dont think the press would have mis-quoted quite so badly. Im shocked he had no regrets. Does that mean he would do the same again??? I am gobsmacked.
 
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