A bit of advice pleaseee :-(

[danielledanielle]

My pony was resting in a field and to cut a long story short, the owner of the field sold him on to a dealer.

Where do I stand? I have traced him now and I know exactly where he is and they wont talk to me - its a real long story but who do/can i contact to get advice? Do you think I stabd a chance in getting him back? I am soo lost without hiom

xx

 

[Beccaeve]

Sorry to sound dumb but why did the owner of the field sell a horse which didnt belong to him?

 

[danielledanielle]

She shouldn't have, thats the point. He was my pony and she sold him... i just dont know what to do

 

[T_K]

Well, selling property that doesn't belong to you is theft, I believe, so I would call the police, report the pony stolen and then tell the police you know where the ponyis. The new 'owners' will be forced to hand over the stolen property and will have to go to the 'seller' to recoup their losses.

I think. Hope you get him back.

 

[danielledanielle]

Thank you!

I will keep you updated, its tearing me apart and i so need him back right now, hes my boy

xx

 

[Beccaeve]

Keep perservering, don't give up.
I hope it works out for you and you get him back

 

[danielledanielle]

Thank you, I will... my y/o is being very nice too and is like'I know how much this is upsettiing you, ill help you with the livery too'
Everyone is concerned coz i get so down about it but who wouldnt? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Cuffey]

You must get a Crime number
Hope you are able to show paperwork to prove the pony belongs to you

 

[bailey14]

Has no one else advised you to contact the police? I am really suprised you havent already - what did you parents say about this?

 

[danielledanielle]

Heyy (becca its not letting me send a pm back)


Ill tell you everything guys, right basically...

he had bone spavin and we eventually found him a loan home. However the loaner did not get on with him but the owner of the field (who was the person who had him before i did, yeah its confusing) said he can stay there to rest for a bit... i had just brought a new horse and needed to sort a way he could come back. Obv the loaner still had passport for his vaccinations BUT the owner of the field just sold him without telling me and we didnt know until someone called us from miles away saying they'd brought him from a dealer and got our number off his passport. Now I am stuck because we did not say she could sell him, i would never have let that happen but the people who have him now claim they have a new pet passport thing. BUT the origional is still in my name but they wont send it to me because i dont have the pony?? I have an appt with a barrister next week and he said i have a case but im just sooo desperate.

xx

 

[Cuffey]

Can you remember which PIO your pony has a passport with--please tell them you think pony has been re-passported
You may be able to search on National Equine database for it and associate yourself with it--ie prove that no-one has updated passport
www.nedonline.co.uk
Or ask for help on here to look--need name it is registered under and year of birth and height and colour but we wont be able to prove you are still owner
You must get police help--selling someone elses pony is a crime

 

[danielledanielle]

I will have a look at that website he has a weatherbys passport x

 

[danielledanielle]

I found him... well.. i found his passport on the ned... but it doesnt say whos name its under is it supposed to? xx

ps there is also one under his new name :S

Oh im so confused maybe the barrister im going to see would be the best option first??? xxxx

 

[Cuffey]

Will NED allow you to 'associate ' yourself with that passport--ie are you the owner still--put in your address when you passported the pony
Which PIO is second passport with--Pet ID--have they microchipped the pony or is it with the Passport Agency?
You must report this to NED contact details on nedonline--mark it urgent
Please report it to both PIOs
Police please this is a crime, although buyers have not committed one I dont think unless they were given original passport and have taken out a new one as no horse should have 2

 

[fatpiggy]

Are the new "owners" aware of his veterinary problem? They may not be so keen to keep him if they think he will either keep going lame or cost them in bills.

 

[awol]

If you have proof that the horse is yours and you did not sell it and report it to the police and you know where it is the police will accompany you to retrieve your property. It will be up to the person who brought it to take out a case against the person who sold him to them. But you must have without doubt proof that he is your horse.

 

[danielledanielle]

Yeah, they know about his spavin

So... i have xrays from his spavin, i have his insurannce details and they can also ring the passport people to prove out name is there HOWEVER the 'new owners' have changed his name??? does that matter? because they could say that its a different horse? xx

 

[T_K]

Could your vet identify your pony?

 

[awol]

Sent you PM

 

[siennamum]

Do you definitely want the pony back? If you have a new horse and the pony was of minimal value and now has a good home... assuming that is the case. Maybe you oculd agree with the new owners that he is now theirs but that you would like to keep in touch. Might be completely unrealistic don't know the full circumstances.

 

[danielledanielle]

Hey Seinnamum... no, he's my babyyyyyy I love him to bits and the new 'owners' have been so rude to me.

I will try to respond to PM but its not letting me for some reason :S :S

I am not sure the vets would recognise him but i do have the xrays and i know a few officers that could too... xxx

 

[timthearab]

I have a horse that has been sold whilst on loan and i am still trying to locate him, so i fully understand how you are feeling. I miss my big boy so much that every day is a hurdle. I passed it on to the police who are deaing with it now, but things do get very complicated. Yes a crime has been commited but and its a big but, if the person who now has him paid money in good faith then there is a chance that you may not be able to get the horse back. It must be passed on to the police because there are so many rules. Good luck, i still dont know where my Tim is!!

 

[danielledanielle]

I've found my boyyy.. got appt with a barrister on monday - my friends mum she's going to help me.

I WILL get him xxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[MHOL]

So glad to hear that, if there is anything we can do to help just shout

 

[Pearlsasinger]

So, if I sell my neighbours' car without their knowledge, (or their TV or anything else) and they find out who bought it, the police will simply say, 'Oh well they paid for it, they can keep it'. I very much doubt it. This makes me so cross. I do think perhaps this is a very strong argument for microchipping, although not sure then how the owner would prove that s/he did not sell the horse to the 'middleman'. It should surely be up to the 'middleman' to prove that it was their horse to sell. I think the barrister sounds like a very good idea. Good luck to both of you, I hope you are both successful.

 

[danielledanielle]

I am off to the barrister on Thursday

I will make sure I will inform you on how it goes... xxxx

 

[magic104]

What has been the outcome from this?

 

[danielledanielle]

I am so so soooo sorry to bump this up, but I thought I would post a reply to tell you how it stands.

I currently do not have my pony. The barriester told me that I could win a court case, but it would take years, and cost a lot of money. The best bet I have is to wait until he's for sale again, and buy him back... basically buy my OWN pony back

He's in a loving home, and he's doing very well, but I still love him to pieces and I hope one day he'll be back home but for now, im in regular contact with the young girl who loves him. It's very hard, but it's something I have to deal with xxx

 

[Tinseltoes]

That doesnt sound right to me.Hes your pony,so you should beable to get him back!!!
Id GO TO THE POLICE WITH YOUR BILL OF SALE,MICROCHIP NUMBER AND ANY OTHER PROOF HES YOURS-PHOTOS ETC.Get a crime number and keep pestering the police about it.
You have to keep on to them.Seek advice for citizens advice.

 

[ilovecobs]

Omg thats so sad! Dont give up!! the people involved in selling your horse and then not letting you have him back must have no hearts!